The Golan Cipel Thread.

[bobthedrummer]

I've checked the New Jersey State Forum, I've searched the Web-this is an extremely odd person, imo, and something about how he became an advisor for NJ Homeland Security, how he got here--everything I've heard about this guy suggests either an intelligence operation or organized crime scam, with major political implications.

Does anyone here have anything to say about this fellow, Golan Cipel?

[molly]

1. Quite simply - he is an oportunist

NJ's disgraced govenor appointed him because he was his lover. Pure and simple - nothing to do with Israel.

[FullCountNotRecount]

3. My sources tell me it's gonna get worse for McGreevy, too.

Just wait. Golan's a mess but don't be disappointed if McGreevy's whole press conference was to cover up something bigger.

[DenverDem]

2. Mossad.

Planted.

[molly]

5. LOL!!!

[TrustingDog]

6. I sure wouldn't laugh at that idea...

[molly]

7. Oh PLEEZE!

this thread is full of innuendos.

[jrthin]

9. It's not an innuendo to say

that this guy is as sleazy and as disgusting as it gets. Whatever McGreevy's other issues he did "get" this jerk a high paying job, and then the jerk turns around and say that he's the victim. Pleeezzze!

[CaTeacher]

32. I agree. n/t

n/t

[Octafish]

39. Homeland Security Dierctor for New Jersey

Seems like a big job. It's also the perfect opportunity for gathering information.

MOSSAD was the first thing I thought when I heard the gov's romantic interest was an Israeli.

BTW: Whatever happened to all the Israeli art students who were casing the generals, flights schools, etc. around 9-11?

PS: Sorry so slow in replying, bobthedrummer. I've been out, re-priming the Jeep.

[starroute]

4. I looked him up in Google Groups

His name shows up from 1994 to 1999 in archives of something called "Israel Line," which seems to be brief news bulletins involving Israel.

All of them say at the end, "Today's Israel Line was prepared by Golan Cipel and Scott Lasensky" or "Today's Israel Line was prepared by Golan Cipel and Joshua Mitnick at the Consulate General of Israel in New York" or so on.


On edit: Israel Line is an email news clipping service of the Israeli Foreign Ministry, apparently to distribute stories from Israeli papers in the US. Does that make it more likely for Cipel to be Mossad? Certainly the news stories I've seen only mention McGreevy meeting him in Israel in 2000 and not that he worked for the Israeli government or was in New York through the 90's.

(Scott Lasensky, by the way, is an Israel expert with the Council on Foreign Relations and advised the Gore 2000 campaign. Joshua Mitnick is a newspaper correspondent in Israel -- I think for the Washington Times, although his articles appear in several other places as well.)

[bobthedrummer]

8. Molly could be spot on, but surely there were many gay men in NJ/USA

that the Governor could have had relationships with.

The Homeland Security position that Mr. Cipel was appointed to, that's what really stands out to me as a red flag-although I'm inclined to think in terms of conspiracy because there is so much of it about.

Btw, I've got Jewish and half-Jewish relatives, I've been an anti-fascist since age 15, and I despise the Sharon government-well, it gets very confusing for me personally.

[molly]

10. Thanks - I am not confused - I do not like Sharon - many

Israeli citizens don't either. The thing I absolutely hate most is people basing opinions on whether a person is black - white - Christian - Jew - or any other "label".

McGreevy met Cipel on a trip to Israel. They started an affair. McGreevy brought him here. He could not have access to confidential material because of his Israeli citizenship. McGreevy found another position for him. They parted ways - Cipel is suing. At this point in time, I have no idea what will come out.

I do know that Israeli intelligence is far too intelligent and sophisticated to have a "plant" in such a visable and tragic position. The far left radicals in this country think of the Palestinians as the "underdog". What have the rest of the Arab world done to help them? Israel has a right to exist and shall do so. A Palestine homeland would also be wonderful.

[TrustingDog]

11. I don't consider Mossad 'Jewish' as i don't consider the CIA 'christian'

hope I cleared That one up.

[molly]

12. I doubt that there is anyone in the Mossad that is not

Jewish.

[Classical_Liberal]

35. So what? Most Jews aren't in the Mossad

. The Mossad has done pletty of stupid things. Look at the passport scandal in New Zealand and the Pollard incident. Besides who said this is stupid. They got a Democrat to resign, which could affect the vote for Kerry, since it throws the democrats in array.

[bobthedrummer]

14. We're pretty much on the same page in the larger context, molly.

Especially about hating opinions based on stereotyping.

This scandal has just about everything, it's extraordinary-and it's a real mindblower for me.

[notadmblnd]

33. Think about this statement

I do know that Israeli intelligence is far too intelligent and sophisticated to have a "plant" in such a visable and tragic position.

not if that is the operatives purpose. His job could have been just that... blackmail a gay politian.

[Classical_Liberal]

34. Not just the far left. I believe they are underdogs as well

that has nothing to do with whether the state should exists and other Arab countries don't have a responsibility to provide them with one like Israel does.

[starroute]

13. And where does Charles Kushner fit into the story?

August 30, 2002
GOVERNOR'S SILENT AIDE LANDS JOB AT MWW
BY JOSH MARGOLIN

"Golan Cipel, the taciturn Israeli national who today will leave the McGreevey administration after months of pressure, has signed on with a prominent and politically wired Bergen County public relations firm.

"The MWW Group, a PR and lobbying company headquartered in East Rutherford, confirmed yesterday that Cipel will begin employment Tuesday as one of its vice presidents. The 33-year-old who was brought to this country two years ago by Gov. James E. McGreevey will oversee MWW's contracts with its Israeli clients, including a handful of companies, as well as the Israel Tourism Ministry, MWW Executive Vice President Robert Sommer said.

"Among MWW's clients is Florham Park developer Charles Kushner, the Governor's No.1 campaign contributor who gave Cipel a job two years ago at McGreevey's request. Kushner is the Governor's choice to head the powerful Port Authority of New York and New Jersey."

http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/docview.asp?did=814841&fid=942


Wednesday, July 14, 2004 Posted: 8:11 AM EDT (1211 GMT)

"In February 2003, Christie's office began investigating Kushner for alleged violation of federal tax and fraud statutes and for purported violation of federal campaign contribution laws.

"According to the indictment, two of the cooperating witnesses in the investigation -- a married couple described as close relatives of Kushner -- provided information against him to federal investigators.

"The indictment alleges that Kushner initiated 'a scheme to orchestrate a covert videotaped seduction' of the cooperating male witness in an attempt to thwart the investigation.

"The indictment says Kushner recruited two individuals to hire a woman to have sex with the male witness and later instructed them to mail the videotape to the man's wife, who was the other cooperating witness in the investigation."

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/07/13/fund.raiser.charged/


"Charles Kushner, a New Jersey real estate developer and Democratic fund-raiser who has been mentioned as a candidate to buy Israel Discount Bank, hired a prostitute to seduce his brother-in-law to derail a federal investigation of his political contributions and tax status. The alleged extortion attempt came as a result of Kushner's brother-in-law, William Schudler, having cooperated with a probe into Kushner's campaign contributions and tax fraud.

"New Jersey prosecution documents show that in March 2003, Kushner, chairman of Kushner Companies, discovered that U.S. federal investigators were probing suspicions that he had used names of employees and relatives to contribute more than allowed to the Democrats.

"His sister, Esther Schudler, and her husband William, decided to cooperate with the Feds, but Kushner decided to put a stop to their betrayal.

"In August 2003, he offered two intermediaries $25,000 to hire a prostitute willing to help extort Schudler. They failed, and Kushner set out to find a call girl himself. Eventually he found one and offered her $10,000. She reportedly seduced Schudler, and their sexual encounter at a motel was videotaped. Kushner then had the film and photographs sent to his sister."

http://news.haaretz.co.il/hasen/spages/452211.html

[starroute]

15. Kushner and Benjamin Netanyahu

"Sources inform 'Globes' that that US real estate tycoons Charles Kushner and Daniel Strauss are holding talks to make a joint bid for Israel Discount Bank (TASE:DSCT). Kushner will apparently lead the acquisition, and Strauss will bid to acquire a holding at a lower price.

" 'Globes' was the first to report that Kushner was a serious contender to acquire Discount Bank. Strauss, who recently showed an interest in the tender, wants to submit a joint bid with Kushner. Kushner's longstanding associate, Minister of Finance Benjamin Netanyahu suggested to Kushner that he buy the bank."

http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/docview.asp?did=774705&fid=942


"The obvious common denominator between everyone in the small huddle of people standing in line to buy Israel Discount Bank (TASE: DSCT) is that they are all from the US. Charles Kushner of New Jersey, Daniel Strauss, also of New Jersey, who will apparently join forces with Kushner, Larry Mizel, and Matthew Bronfman are all Americans.

"This is no coincidence. It's entirely logical, and it stems from Minister of Finance Benjamin Netanyahu's familiarity with and connections in the US capital market. That is one thing that has brought this bunch of heavy hitters as potential buyers for Discount Bank."

http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/docview.asp?did=774897&fid=942


"One month after losing a bid to purchase the New Jersey Nets, builder and philanthropist Charles Kushner is reportedly making a move to buy the Israel Discount Bank.

"Fifty-five percent of the bank is currently owned by the Israeli government, and Israeli Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is responsible for part of its operations and would have to approve its sale.

"Kushner is a longtime friend of Netanyahu who has contributed to the former Israeli prime minister’s political campaigns. Netanyahu is seeking to have his government divest itself of publicly owned institutions, including the 200-branch bank.

<snip>

" “Netanyahu is also a friend of Matthew Bronfman, and Bronfman is also reported to be interested in buying the bank,” said Rubenstein, referring to the Seagram heir and son of World Jewish Congress president Edgar Bronfman. "Netanyahu has lived in New York, and he knows every single person who’s been involved with Israel in a major way.' "

http://www.njjewishnews.com/njjn.com/22604/njbuilder.html

[TrustingDog]

20. interesting. thanks for the heads up on this Kushner guy

[starroute]

23. The question in my mind is how much this could hurt the Democrats

To the extent that it's been percolating along for a while without becoming a big deal, perhaps not much. But if it's part of the real reason for McGreevey's resignation, the story might be just about to erupt. Even if it turns out not to be closely connected to McGreevey, it could still spell trouble down the road, so it's something we ought to be aware of.


Wed, Jul. 14, 2004

"Kushner is also a fund-raiser for U.S. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D., N.Y.) and has long supported New Jersey's Democratic U.S. senators, Jon Corzine and Frank Lautenberg, and former U.S. Sens. Bill Bradley and Robert Torricelli.

"His appearance yesterday in a federal courtroom in Newark, N.J., can be traced, in part, to a lawsuit brought by his brother Murray and a former employee, who contended that he diverted almost $700,000 in corporate funds to unauthorized personal and political uses.

"The suit, dropped late last year, asserted that Kushner used some of the money to pay for guest speakers at events he sponsored. Those speakers included Israeli Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker, former President Bill Clinton, former Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Terry Bradshaw, and former New York Mets manager Bobby Valentine.

<snip>

"Yesterday, when Kushner walked into the courtroom, he was flanked by four lawyers. He wore handcuffs, leg irons, a white dress shirt, and olive slacks. His dark, silver-streaked hair was perfect, and the only hint that the Livingston resident was under stress came as his wife, Seryl, softly patted his shoulder and held his hand as he signed document after document to set his $5 million secured bail."

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/9147413.htm?1c


February 12, 2003

"As his holdings have grown, so has Kushner's political profile. In the past decade, he has donated more than $5.5 million to candidates, parties and political committees, including a $1 million donation to the Democratic Party last fall.

<snip>

"In particular, Yontef said Kushner used some of the entities' money to donate millions of dollars to charities in his own name, and that he made political contributions in the name of others, often without their knowledge. 'It was only after the contributions were made (sometimes years later) that letters were sent to the partners asking them to authorize some of the contributions,' Yontef claimed, according to a certified statement he filed with the lawsuit.

"Campaign law prohibits individuals from contributing more than $2,000 to any one candidate during any primary and general election cycle.

"Yontef's statements also provided glimpses into the lifestyle of one of the Garden State's more prominent figures. His suit said that Kushner, the son of Holocaust survivors, paid $100,000 for former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to speak at his synagogue in November 2001, and covered the $125,000 speaking fee for former President Clinton at another event."

http://www.cpanj.com/capitalreportpages/politicaltrack/february2003/KUSHNER%20BEING%20INVESTIGATED%20BY%20FEDS.htm

[Laughing Mirror]

16. Golan Cipel, a very mysterious young man

He has been reported variously as having been an Israeli sailor, an accomplished poet, and a public relations man before becoming McGreevy's "homeland security" advisor, whatever that was. He wouldn't talk about it, wouldn't give interviews. Found this two-year old AP photo of McGreevy (left) and Mystery Man (right). They seem to be headed in different directions.

[TrustingDog]

29. wonder if there's a connection between Golan and

that mysterious missing 1.2 billion bucks from Homeland Security coffers.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/03/26/homeland.hiring/#

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Department of Homeland Security has temporarily stopped hiring employees for two of its main divisions as it seeks to find out if it is facing a large budget shortfall or simply having problems reconciling the books after the largest government merger in history.

Asa Hutchinson, undersecretary of border and transportation security, ordered what's being characterized as the "temporary hold on new hires" Tuesday, a DHS spokesman said.
==
The spokesman declined to specify the amount of the projected deficits, saying that different methods resulted in different projections. But the Wall Street Journal reported Friday that the potential shortfall is $1.2 billion.

---
just asking is all.

[TreasonousBastard]

17. Really tough to tell...

the chickens from the eggs, and I'll be damned if I can figure out what's going on.

Kushner sponsored him for his green card, or some damn thing, and Kushner's up to his ass in alligators. The local, and Republican, federal prosecutor has been all over Kushner, trying to take it into the statehouse, and who knows what's in his files. This guy Christie has been muttering about a run for Governor.

It's getting ugly, and I think they learned how to take yer basic Clinton type sex scandals and make them stick. I didn't think it at first, but I'm leaning toward the idea of Republican black baggery here. The wingnut branch still hasn't gotten over McG and Lautenberg getting their seats, and is playing hardball.

Now, some other guy in Trenton is claiming McG hit on him. Expect more to come out of the woodwork, but the truth will still be out there.

[starroute]

19. "In Jersey anything's legal, as long as you don't get caught".

Great line from "Tweeter and the Monkey Man." (Dylan in pretending-to-be-Springsteen mode.)

My aunt used to be involved in Jersey politics. I wouldn't be surprised by anything that comes out of there.

[TreasonousBastard]

28. Heh!

I'm sitting between Sharpe James in Newark and Ray Lesniak in Union County, with Bollwage as my mayor. These guys are magnificent examples of how "local" leadership works around here. Bookshelves could be written about them, and how they get away with it. We thought we got rid of our councilman, who got caught red-handed stealing 50 grand, but he pulled a rabbit out of a hat at the last minute and is still there.

Lesniak is not only county leader and state senator, but a partner in the the state's biggest law firm for handling state and local business. And lobbying. In Joisey, being in the legislature is a "part time" job, and you can keep your day job, even if it's one that does business with the state and local governments.

Any Democratic governor of NJ has to deal with some very slick county leaders, many of whom hate each other. Then you got a Republican wing that's smelling blood at every turn and scheming to take the feuds public.

I don't know what they're teaching in poly-sci courses now, but if they want to give the kids a real education, come here and see how things really work. I used to think NYC politics was wierd!

I laugh when I see these comments about bringing the Democratic Party back to its roots. I got its roots right here, and they are rotten to the core.

[molly]

18. Thru all of this - what about the wife?

I cannot even imagine going on TV holding the hand of a man that had betrayed me in so many ways. His penis would be super-glued to his groin and I would be nowhere in sight, much less on TV enabling him.

[bobthedrummer]

21. It is my understanding that he was married twice, and also has two

daughters-one from each marriage. There is indeed a constellation of betrayals in this scandal.

My wife stated she would react more in the manner of Lorena Bobbit if she was his wife.

There are rumors of other men also claiming sexual harrassment now.

If that turns out to be correct, again I wonder why the incredible effort to get Golan Cipel into the US and into the NJ Homeland Security position-I mean there are many gay men in NJ, why all these international high profile machinations by the Governor of New Jersey for the mysterious Mr. Cipel???
:eyes:

[Karenina]

22. The plot thickens...

:freak:

[BeHereNow]

24. You have no idea...

Add Merck Pharma Cartel, Israel and Anthrax to
your Cipel research...
BHN

[Puglover]

26. I am woman hear me shriek.....

Odd that you know so much about this that you can term her standing next to him as "enabling" Wish I had your inside track.

[notadmblnd]

25. I'd say he drinks his martinis shaken not stirred.

he also worked for the Israeli Consulate in 1995

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=2210614&mesg_id=2212579

[NJCher]

27. Mrs. McGreevey

at the basis of any marriage is friendship. Wouldn't compassion for his position overrule any desire to Bobbitt him?

I doubt this was any surprise to Mrs. McGreevey.


Cher

[bobthedrummer]

30. Now, in interviews, Mr. Cipel is stating that he is straight.

:shrug:

[NJCher]

31. McGreevey popularity up

I just heard on the radio that his popularity is up two points since his announcement. I guess people are so sick of being lied to that a politician who comes clean is refreshing.


Cher

[bobthedrummer]

36. A US journalist is publishing an article claiming this was an Israeli

intelligence operation gone bad-there is now a thread in LBN on this.

I thought that at first too, because of the NJ Homeland Security position that went to Mr. Cipel-but I wouldn't rush to judgement on this sordid affair just yet.

It could also be organized crime, political dirty tricks by various folks, or something else entirely.


:shrug:

[seemslikeadream]

37. An Israeli / Rove Connection?

The McGreevey Scandal
By WAYNE MADSEN

Here we go again. Another political bombshell hits the American people and there is yet another connection to the subterranean labyrinth of possible Israeli intelligence activities. New Jersey Democratic Governor Jim McGreevey's announcement on August 12 that he was resigning because of his involvement in a gay relationship with an Israeli national may be the tip of an iceberg that represents another high-level Israeli attempt to burrow into the most sensitive areas of U.S. national security and our political process. The surprise announcement is also being used by a number of neo-conservative news outlets to tarnish the Democratic Party and absolve Israel of any connection to the New Jersey political scandal.

The ties between Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's Russian-mafia infused government and shadowy Israeli and Eastern European ex-intelligence agents are beyond a doubt, according to international law enforcement officials. But what is not readily apparent is the fact that a number of Israeli off-the-books intelligence operatives are active inside the United States and they do not have U.S. national interests in mind. In particular, the Israeli-Russian mobsters and their allies within the Sharon government have adopted one of the most successful intelligence ploys used by the former KGB and East German Stasi--the use of prostitutes or "swallows" to gain intimate access to high Western politicians, so-called "sexpionage." In the case of Israel, which welcomed a number of émigré former Eastern bloc intelligence agents during and after the Cold War, this has entailed the use of both female and male prostitutes. The fact that White House chief dirty tricks operator Karl Rove has close connections to the political spin machine run out of Sharon's Jerusalem office is also a concern when it comes to Israeli-connected dirty tricks operations being run against Democratic politicians in the United States.

It should be remembered that New Jersey Democratic Senator Robert Torricelli was forced to drop out of his re-election race in 2002 because of leaks about his involvement with a contributor indicted on federal charges. Torricelli's major problems in New Jersey arose after he was chastised for missing an important Senate vote supporting Israel. The Senate, at the time, was tenuously in the hands of the Democrats, who had a one-seat majority. However, Torricelli was replaced on the ticket by Frank Lautenberg, who went on to win the seat for the Democrats.

Jim McGreevey was a rising star in Democratic politics. As Mayor of Woodbridge, a New York City commuter suburb, McGreevey decided to opt for statewide political office. At the same time he appeared on the Israeli intelligence radar screens. In 2000, with his eye on the New Jersey statehouse, Mayor McGreevey joined a large delegation of New Jersey Jewish supporters in a political "mega pilgrimage" to Israel, where he met Golan Cipel, said to be a tour guide/information officer for the mayor of the Tel Aviv suburb of Rishon Le-Zion, the first Zionist settlement in Palestine. However, Cipel had previously been the press secretary for the Israeli consulate general in New York City. In 1999, Cipel, who is now being described as a one-time low-level Israeli government employee in New York and a "poet," gave a speech on behalf of the Israeli government at a meeting at the Simon Wiesenthal Center's Madison Avenue offices on some very high profile issues, including the implications of the recent death of King Hussein of Jordan, the upcoming Israeli elections, and the peace process with the Palestinian Authority.

more
http://counterpunch.org/madsen08142004.html

[Octafish]

40. Good ol' Masden.

So, Röverer and Sharon wanted to give the DEMs a hot foot, eh? Well, let's let this stinking mess fester for as long as possible in the press and public. And may the American public see the Truth -- Israel (Sharon's LIKUD) is doing the dirty deed to doom the democratic process.

PS: Thanks, seemslikeadream! This article is great.

[seemslikeadream]

38. gauguin57 points out in LBN

Something that doesn't jibe with sexual harrassment/rape claims


Near the end of this 2002 story is the description of McGreevey joining Cipel in a walk-through of a townhouse soon after McGreevey was elected ... so, he was being sexually harrassed, but he told the realtor he needed to be in a townhouse really close to the governor's residence so he could be on call 24 hours a day? ... hmmmm.... I don't have any idea what really happened there, but it's all a little weird.


pertinent snip...

"... McGreevey took time out from his transition plans to accompany Cipel on a last- minute walk-through of the West Windsor townhouse Cipel was about to purchase.

McGreevey's unannounced inspection caught the seller, Elaine Dietrich, by surprise.

According to Dietrich, she had listed the place at $189,900. Cipel saw it only once and offered $190,000 provided it was taken off the market immediately. Cipel explained "he wanted to have a place that was in close proximity to where the Governor was because he was a personal adviser on call 24 hours a day."

Before Cipel would sign the contract, Dietrich said, he wanted to make sure McGreevey saw it, too.


McGreevey Watch
... Then, late last year, McGreevey took time out from his transition plans to accompany
Cipel on a last- minute walk-through of the West Windsor townhouse Cipel ...
www.cpanj.com/.../mcgreeveywatch/august2002/ MCGREEVEY'S%20RECLUSIVE%20ISRAELI%20AIDE%20STEPS%20DOWN.htm - 22k - Cached - Similar pages


only way to get to link through google
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=+McGreevey+took+time+out+from+his+transition+plans+to+accompany+Cipel+on+a+last&btnG=Search

[bex]

41. Standard Israeli Mafia M.O.

"Cipel was brought to the U.S. under the auspices of Charles Kushner, McGreevey's chief fundraiser, whose gigantic real estate holdings made him the rising star among Democratic party moneybags. Cipel's job for the state Democratic party, doing Jewish outreach for the McGreevey campaign, pulled in a paltry amount of money, but Cipel's salary was generously supplemented by work for Kushner as a "consultant."
Kushner is quite a character. Under investigation for tax evasion and election code violations, he recently made headlines when he sent his sister a tape of her husband having sex with a prostitute. The sister had been cooperating with prosecutors looking into the real estate mogul, and Kushner, a noted philanthropist, exacted retribution. Rumor has it that Kushner sought a pardon, apparently unsuccessfully, from the governor he thought he owned. When the pardon wasn’t forthcoming, the threat of a suit by Cipel and his lawyers began to loom large: there has been speculation in the media that Kushner may be behind the governor’s recent troubles, and this is fueled by the question of who’s paying the apparently penniless Cipel’s lawyers, as well as the latest reporting:

"Yesterday a McGreevey administration source said Cipel also had sought the governor's influence in getting a New Jersey license for a New York-based Jewish college.

"Adding another twist to the case, administration sources said that in recent days, Lowy had asked for more than money to forgo a lawsuit. Cipel's lawyer also asked for help in winning a license for Touro College to build the first private medical school in New Jersey, said a top-ranking administration source who spoke on condition of anonymity. Among the board members of Touro College, a Jewish institution based in New York, is Charles Kushner …"
---
http://antiwar.com/justin / August 16, 2004

[AngryAmish]

42. RW plant

McGreevey is a good man and a good Democrat. They are out to get us. Do not beleive their lies.

[gauguin57]

43. Professor said he also slept with Cipel

This is getting really icky ... but this (if true) would also seem to raise doubt about Cipel's claims that he's not gay ...

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/223286p-191854c.html

snip...

"The New Jersey gay sex scandal took an explosive new turn as a man claiming to be Golan Cipel's lover came forward and reported the affair to aides of Gov. Jim McGreevey, sources said yesterday.
The mystery man, a college professor from northern Jersey, called the governor's office to assert he and Cipel had been romantically involved, sources said.

If true, the new lover could blow apart Cipel's claims that he is straight and seriously damage Cipel's credibility as a victim of McGreevey's unwanted sexual advances. ..."