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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-04 06:52 PM
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Goss to allow CIA to spy on Americans...
To all of you I've argued with over the Patriot Act, it's validity and necessity, I would like to apologize. It appears to be much more serious than any of us thought. This could be very, very bad.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5675992/site/newsweek/
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-04 07:00 PM
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1. Goss to allow CIA to spy on Americans...
Just goes to show you...

" know who their enemies are, and their enemies are the people, the people at home and the people abroad. Their enemies are anybody who wants more social justice, anybody who wants to use the surplus value of society for social needs rather than for individual class greed, that's their enemy."
Michael Parenti
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Rebellious Republican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-04 07:00 PM
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2. Sounds like a trial balloon to me! N/T



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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-04 07:06 PM
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3. That's a battle for dems to pick
I hope
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-04 07:14 PM
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4. They'll throw this into his face at the hearings,
Edited on Sat Aug-14-04 07:15 PM by 0007
I predict Goss won't be confirmed.

But other congressional staffers predicted that the Goss bill, even if it has little chance of passage, is likely to get substantial scrutiny at his upcoming confirmation hearings—in part as an opportunity to explore his own attitudes toward civil liberties.

Those hearings are already expected to be unusually contentious—partly because of concerns among Democrats that the Florida Republican, a former CIA officer himself who has chaired the House Intelligence Committee, has been too partisan and too close to the Bush White House. But so far, most staffers expect Goss to be confirmed eventually—if only because Democrats are loath to appear overly obstructionist on a matter that might be portrayed as central to national security.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-04 07:16 PM
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5. "And arresting American citizens." But I distrust Isikoff.
Not that I distrust the idea that Porter Goss wants these things.

But I distrust Isikoff's motives (or his owners' motives) in printing this. Perhaps there are those who do not want Porter Goss appointed, for their own reasons?

Reading about some of the machinations that ended up with the selection of Bush Sr as CIA director so many years ago make me realize that what comes out is not so much aimed at disclosing the truth, but about manipulation of public opinion by opposing factions within the centers of power.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-04 07:17 PM
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6. Thanks for sharing the post.
Just an FYI, the mods might ask you to change the title to match the article....
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-04 07:37 PM
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11. This is GD not LBN, so not a problem
Horrifying article. Why are the Dems prepared to roll over on this one? Is it because they feel confident they can toss him out once Kerry's in?
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-04 07:18 PM
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7. No No No No No No No No No No
This must Not ever be allowed to happen ..

We absolutely must not waiver ..No No No No No ..NO !

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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-04 07:18 PM
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8. scottknapper: You need to change this thread's title....
Goss’s Wish List (Goss to allow CIA to spy on Americans...)

would fit the rules...

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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-04 07:24 PM
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9. Welcome to DU, scottknapper!
You still have time to edit and change the title to read same as the article so mods won't lock this important story O8)
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-04 07:34 PM
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10. Well, well, well
we are getting our very own KGB
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-04 10:21 PM
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13. I think the thread must have been moved from LBN
hence the many helpful posts. It's an important story - thanks for posting, scottknapper.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-04 07:54 PM
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12. they did during the 60`s
and they got caught. but with this new/old crew they are back at it again..just mind your p`s and q`s and never trust anyone..you never know who is an informant. been there- done that
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-04 11:23 PM
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14. Did you see this movie Michael Moore has on Goss?
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-04 11:31 PM
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15. Kick the movie to the top for any who missed it !
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-04 11:42 PM
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16. My apologies to everyone...
I'm still learning the ropes on posting, so thanks much for the patience and words of wisdom. I'll review the rules for posting, and make the changes necessary on my next ones, since editing this one is obviously too late.
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