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UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 11:17 PM
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which country, if any, would you move to if Bush's Osama Bin Lotto
'wins' him the next election? Im not sure if i would go, but western canada seems mighty appealing to me.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 11:18 PM
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1. Canada or Northern Europe
Im thinking of doing it regardless, im getting to the point where I cant tolerate it here.
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UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 11:20 PM
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2. bonus: canadians like american money. its actually valuable up there.
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Katherine2 Donating Member (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 11:36 PM
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11. I tried tostart
the immigration process to move to Vancouver, BC, but you need to know someone and some other things that I don't have. Then I got over it and looked at little into Costa Rica and New Zealand. New Zealand actively recruits Californians to come live there. I love Canada, though.

I'm just depressed that WHEN Kerry wins, the right wing wackos will be worse than they were during the Clinton years, and I don't know if I can take it.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 12:44 AM
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15. what?
you just can't move there? You have to know somebody? I have aalways liked Canada, especially the west coast. SO even if you have money and you won't be on welfare there, you still have to know somebody?
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 12:45 AM
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16. Canada has tough immigration laws.
I dont know the specifics, but no, you cant just move there.
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Sporadicus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 11:20 PM
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3. I Would Choose Canada
I'm quite fond of BC, and if (god forbid) * were to be elected (for the first time), I'd give it serious consideration.
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UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 11:23 PM
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4. nobody's called us quitters yet, they must be asleep.
lol.
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 11:24 PM
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5. I've eyed Canada but think it would be pretty crowded lol so...
I'm thinking maybe Italy or France. Better start a language course then eh?

Australia or New Zealand is another idea....hmmmm :)
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UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 11:27 PM
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6. australia is a close second... its just so far away.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 11:28 PM
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7. Aren't they on thier own right wing kick?
They might just follow Bush wherever it is he takes America.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 11:29 PM
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8. Spain n/t
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 11:32 PM
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9. Vancouver is looking good.
Close enough to launch insurgency attacks.
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WMliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 11:34 PM
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10. i hear auckland, new zealand is nice
and they'll be approaching summer just after our elections.
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 12:18 AM
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12. Dont wait..get your passport now
might be too late if you wait!! I live in Mexico..on a little fishing island community in the caribbean..near cancun. It is a wonderful place to live..peacful friendly people..and a one hour flight to the usa..if i should want to be in the USA. we will go to vote in november..and visit family. Really...get your passports now.
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nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 12:54 AM
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17. too late for what?
I love vague paranoid warnings.

Things in the US are terrible and about to get worse. But if there is martial law, having/not having a passport isn't going to matter. And if there isn't martial law, the surface of things will still run smoothly for a while, it's the underneath that is rotting through.
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:59 AM
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21. passport
it will matter once you leave the usa if you do not have the passport. yes, it is true that if there is martial law, it would be impossible to leave right away..to travel even to borders. But this is not paranoia, it is common sense at this point in time to hope for the best, but be prepared for the worse. At the very least, it will not hurt you to have a passport. Talk to the decendents of Hitlers time...people thought it could never happen..and it did..many waited too long to leave. I am not saying this IS going to happen in the USA, just that it does not hurt you to be prepared..and now is a good time to get that passport.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 12:19 AM
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13. Spain
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LiberalManiacfromOC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 12:25 AM
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14. Spain looks good to me...
Socialist (if I not mistaken) and I can speak Spanish almost fluently.
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Huckebein the Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 02:02 AM
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18. Quebec
with Ontario, BC, France, Spain, and Caribbean nations like Aruba, Barbados not far behind.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 02:24 AM
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19. Canada Immigration Score Check
Edited on Mon Aug-16-04 02:27 AM by tkmorris
Have any skills? If so, use this form to find out if you meet the requirements to immigrate to Canada. No, you do NOT have to know someone there, even though it can help. Remember, you need 67 points to qualify, down from the 75 points it used to be until late last year.

http://www.workpermit.com/canada/points_calculator.htm

Edited: Bah! That's not the link I intended. You can still use it to check your points status though.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 03:16 PM
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28. I qualified.
It's good to know Canada IS an option. Thanks for the link! Now, I'm going to go see if I qualify to move to Australia!
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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 06:18 AM
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20. Italy. I've wanted to move there ever since I went there in the mid
80's. It's my dream to move there and just soak up all the history. And some of the yummy food and wine too. :)
I have two reasons to live in the states. My Mom and Dad. Once they are no longer here, I'm outta here for good. I've had enough of the politics. I want to go live in a peaceful valley and eat gnocchi (sp?) that is so light it seems as though one is eating a cloud. sigh. Where IS that winning lotto ticket? MINE, not *'s.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 12:07 PM
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22. China
Would get serious consideration by me. I have relatives there in the more affluent eastern part of the country, as my wife is a native. And, I'd be moving from a superpower in decline to a superpower to be.

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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 12:10 PM
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24. Canada
Edited on Mon Aug-16-04 12:10 PM by DaveSZ
But I'd only leave this country it if went all the way fundamentalist/totalitarian, because I do love this country.


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DaveFL99 Donating Member (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 12:09 PM
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23. Thailand
Women just knock on your door, come in, have sex and then leave.

Really !! Just ask Neill bush.
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Bjornsdotter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 12:14 PM
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25. Sweden n/t
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 02:11 PM
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26. Europe - England, Scotland, Holland
Czech Republic, Belgium, Italy, Switzerland, Austria.
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Z-E-R-0 Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 02:35 PM
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27. Canada
Vancouver for sure.
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sldavis Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 03:30 PM
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29. Canada
Since we currently live in SW Michigan, Ontario is an option that my husband and I have entertained. But I was just in British Columbia, and Vancouver is a very nice city.
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