Why do freepers want a fascist nation?

[Melodybe]

It's pretty sad, they don't even realise that if Bushco had their way the poor ass rednecks wouldn't be allowed to vote.

So other than the obvious ignorance of history and fascist governments, why do freepers Lurv the neo-fascists?

[mr_hat]

1. So the SUVs will run on time?

[gratuitous]

2. Because they think they're "in"

Heck, they're making $25 or $30K a year! That's upper middle class, right?

[Union Thug]

3. <insert Dueling Banjos soundtrack here>

[noahmijo]

4. The same reason radicals on the left want a Communist Nation

They actually believe they have something to gain when in reality they'll become nothing more than subjects of the state.

They're in the fantasy that their good masters will put them in on the ground floor for being good obedient little people.

More specifically in the freeper case though, the religious faction of the freeps have a utopia in mind that involves all white Christian males who command their wives to "start growin some babies already"

[arcane1]

11. 2 very cool CD covers you have there!

not my faves from either band, but it was a trip nonetheless to see them on DU!

:toast:

[noahmijo]

14. They're actually not my favs by either band either

But they're my favorite covers from those bands!

Actually they're very close to being my favorites, Images is my 2nd fav DT cd.

Nice to find someone who recognizes them!

:toast:

[arcane1]

21. cool

I really liked Olympus from SX, and Images from DT is up there w.their first one as my faves. Didn't really get into the later stuff from either band too much

[noahmijo]

23. Twilight in Olympus is my favorite from SX!

From Dream Theater I think it goes like this

1. Metropolis pt .2
2. Images
3. Awake
4. Six Degrees
5. Train of Thought
6. Change of Seasons
7. Falling Into Infinity

Thing is I love ALL DT'S albums but this is just a fav list I guess.

[arcane1]

28. no Dream and Day Unite?

:shrug:

got to see SX on the Odessy tour, that was pretty damned cool. THey tore the place up!

[noahmijo]

29. Ahhh I will burn for forgetting that one

For me though Dream Theater really took off when they got James and got rid of Charlie.

However many classic songs on that album as well. I guess I'd have to put it above Change of Seasons.

[arcane1]

30. agreed, on all points

great music but Charlie wasn't nearly as good as JL

ever hear the John Arch audition, singing old Charlie songs?

[tom_paine]

25. Bing! Bing! Bing! We have a winner!

Notice how the rationale is almost interchanagbel for ALL Totalitarians, Left and Right.

Is it just me or does the Freeper/Dittohead/Brownshirt frenetic disavowment of the Nazis as Rightists smack of EXACTLY the kind of mindless, spoon-fed, Orwellian revisionism of the Nazis on the Right and the Commies on the Left practiced regularly?

Orwell had it right, so did Bradbury and Huxley.

Imperial Amerika will soon be a grotesque amalgam of all three.

[noahmijo]

31. Yea well that's what I hate extremism of all kinds

and it just so happens that in this particular instance this administration is slowly starting to push towards the right form of extremism and his bots are gearing up to ensure that it happens.

I refuse to support any radical agenda which grants the state such powers whether it be left or right controlled.

[salinen]

5. Easy

The Neo-Christians are fascist. They want the nation to resemble what they have become.

[Cats Against Frist]

13. ding ding ding ding

We have a winner. They ARE fascists.

The question is -- why do otherwise unsuspecting middle-class people SUPPORT them?

[noahmijo]

16. Because they have it implanted into their heads that

Democrats are out to steal their hard earned money and given the fact that they already struggle as it is, they can't have those damn Democrats trying to take their money to give it to those who refuse to work!!

[atreides1]

6. You Don't Understand

They only want limitations on those who disagree with their point of view, thet will make sure that new laws will not apply to the "faithful", such as themselves.

The freepers want to do away with free thought, and want everyone to march in lockstep with their so-called values. And for those who refuse, there is always a re-education camp for you. ;)

[Gato Moteado]

7. bootlickers don't know how to think for themselves.

nt

[gatorboy]

8. They don't care...they live off fear.

Seriously. They have Fear of God already burned into their psyche.
Everything they vote for is based on fear: Fear of Terror, Fear or Gays, Fear that someone's taking their guns away. Fear of Taxes.

For a group that just loooves to talk about how weak liberals are, you will not find a more frightened group of scardy cats then conservatives...

[The_Casual_Observer]

9. poor ass rednecks don't vote anyway

They think guys like chimp protect them from minorities stealing their tax money and are tough on criminals, communists, homosexuals and atheists. These are the core beliefs.

[PatriotGames]

12. Ding Ding Ding! Absolutely!

[MallRat]

10. Apparently, it isn't fascism if YOUR belief system is being promoted.

People like that don't care about democracy. They just want to get what they want, when they want it, and with as little inconvenience as possible (i.e., Elections? Who needs them?)

The fact that the underpinnings of the American system of government are being eroded really doesn't matter to them.

-MR

[havocmom]

15. Half of them want to be told what to do & think and the other half want to

push people around

[hatrack]

17. So they won't have to think anymore

When everything's controlled, when every news report is sunny and uplifting, when the Church enforces zoning violations and the State talks about Jesus, they won't have to think anymore.

Those irritating lapses, pesky facts and maddening contradictions will no longer poke and prod their tiny brains like so many fire ants let loose within their skulls.

And as the shadows lengthen over what remains of America, they'll happily accept a permanently diminished future if only it allows them to go on being slothful, lazy tubs of mental lard. They will wrap these shadows around themselves like a toasty comfy God-blanky and go to sleep forever.

[wrate]

18. Every question regarding freepers can be answered with one word: FEAR. n/t

[Cleita]

19. This is their dellusion.

They think government always messes things up so we need less government and fewer taxes. The Repugs promise less government and fewer taxes, however, being that they are liars, the truth is more government, more taxes for the poor and less freedom. Yet they don't see it because our librul press doesn't expose the lies.

[bearfan454]

20. They want TOTAL control over everything.

The damn Constitution of the United States of America just keeps getting in the way of their plans.

[MaryH]

27. They want to see all the "others" get theirs!

That cult is extremely vengeful.

[Lovecrafty]

22. Homoerotic fascination with SS uniforms!!!

Its a homoerotic fascination with the ultra-cool German Uniforms! I mean, isn't black leather boots and a death's head just the ultimate "fascist statement"!! I really believe the love affair with fascism these freaks have is a homoerotic fetish with guns, power, authority. Those BEHIND the gun don't mind fascism all that much. They figure if they play their cards right and show enough hatred, they might get a job at a watchtower in a concentration camp someday and get to feel REAL powerful over some people. Fascism has a tendency to prop up thugs and brutes, characteristics freepers have in an abundance. I think they honestly think they might have a place in the new order and get handed a cool black uniform and get to murder people for fun!

Of course, they forget that even once inside the loop, your just another slave in a cool black uniform! Just shut up, zeig heil, and NEVER question what your told to do!

[murray hill farm]

24. no..it is more simple then that

i lived in an old florida red neck area for many years..i hung out with rednecks...you could say..and they allowed me to be around them...but i was never really "one" of them..just geographically,i was there so they tolerated me. Most of the "red neck" types were poor..very poor..and living the sort of white trash stereotype one generation after another. Men who worked generally did construction..when they could get work..in Florida, this was most of the time..one job after another. Not skilled laborors, but the guys who did the grunt work and were paid a little above min wage. This is big time status...being a wage earner, when you live at the bottom of the financial ladder of things...and so you develop a feeling of superiority among your peers...which translates to hate of the rest who live off the govt..receive welfare or aid to dep children..which most of those folks have done for generations. So, over time, the hate is their political stand..because it gives them a little step up on that social ladder...and they equate the democratic party with welfare and those that they see as lower on the ladder...same reason they hate blacks...need to believe that hated ones exist...and support the belief that they are above at least some on the social ladder of things.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

32. Ding-ding-ding

Another winner!

That ties in with what Howard Zinn said about the origins of the Southern system of racism: it kept poor whites from allying themselves with black people to balance the influence of the upper classes, and thus rich whites promoted racism starting from the time when indentured servitude was made temporary for whites and permanent and hereditary for blacks.

[NoBorders]

26. people who can't handle uncertainty - check out this study

http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/07/22_politics.shtml

It's just their psychological makeup. People who can't handle uncertainty turn to RW ideology.

[librechik]

33. they think they'll get to shoot all us liberals

and minorities, once the fascists are really completely in charge (you know that liberal media, and that liberal Congress, always stopping the freepers from laying the Final Solution on us deserving Dems...)

besides, they look good in jackboots (they don't realize "poor white trash" is on the extermination list right after the liberals)