OMG What's happened to Tweety?

[Joanne98]

Has Hardballs joined the light side? Is it to early to send him e-mails thanking him. He would be a valuable asset if we could get him to help the Kerry camp. We have nobody at this point. Or is it to early to believe he's actually going to tell the truth and stand up the the thugs? What do you think?

[vivalarev]

1. Ive been pleasantly surprised!!!!

the past couple of times ive watched him, he has seemed to be trying to get to the truth. its probably too early though, and i still think he's annoying but id like to have him on our side.

[DeepModem Mom]

2. Why not? [e-mail]

[MidwestTransplant]

7. Don't email him to thank him for helping

...he will just think he isn't being balanced. You can say it was a balanced show, etc. Or good points...Learned something new, etc.

[WLKjr]

3. What did he just do?

[loathesomeshrub]

9. He's correcting Bush lies about Kerry.

I really have seen a change in him since the DNC. I think he is for Kerry!

[w13rd0]

4. Send him emails of encouragement...

...but keep in mind he's done this before. He's a "dancer". He was pretty strongly anti-war for the most part, but eventually fell under the power of Bush's overpowering masculinity. I wouldn't expect consistency out of him, just applaud him when he gets stuff right.

[vivalarev]

10. Maybe he realizes

that bush doesnt have a chance in hell of getting re-elected so hes just "hedging" his positions for when kerry takes over, he'll look like a stand-up journalist who helped expose the RNC lies against kerry. personally, i dont care if that the case, at least he's exposing these liars for what they are.

[never_get_over_it]

17. Ding Ding Ding

we have a winner boys and girls - that is exactly what he is doing - he is a media whore putting his finger in the air to test the wind...Tip O'Neil is rolling in his grave - Cheney you Matthews I don't give a shit how good you might be doing I will never watch you and I haven't in ages.

[Carolina]

37. that's exactly right

he's a self-serving egotistical prick. Yeah, yeah, yeah ... he tosses a few bones our way lately, so I'm told 'cause I can't stand to watch him. But don't applaud or thank him. He'll change with the wind in a heartbeat and quite frankly, like Bush, he doesn't care what you (we)little people think. A whore like him does not change his stripes and I will never forget how he treated/maligned the Clintons and Al Gore.

That smug, loud-mouth bastard should not be trusted and should not be sent any kudos.

[Kanary]

41. Scuze me..... you're telling us not to thank someone for being reasonable?

Then, I need to ask, what kind of society are you wanting to build?

Kanary

[Carolina]

44. yep, don't feed the whore's ego

he's only fired up 'cause HE was used or segments of HIS show were taken out of context. And geez, all I'm saying is don't send kudos to Tweety and you're morphing that into "what kind of society are you wanting to build?" Please.

Don't you realize by now that your calls and emails to MSGOP, CNN, NBC ... don't mean squat? Tweety will change back tomorrow. He's not worth or worthy of your time and energy. I stared writing these guys back during the Clinton bashing years, through selection 2000 and IWR vote. Lotta good that did, so I decided best thing was to turn them off, boycott their sponsors and spread the good news about our side at the grass roots level.

[Kanary]

47. well, that's *your* opinion, and I think you're VERY wrong.

I refuse to live in the society you want to build........ judging everyone mercilessly, and thanking no one, ever, unless they are always and completely "on your side.". No thanks....... I've seen that future, and it's too ugly to contemplate.

"Worthy"..... interesting you would use such a RW concept.

If you don't want to write, hey, no skin off my nose. But ordering other people in such forceful tones........ nope, there's more here underneath this for you, and I don't want to see it.

I have no illusions that any of these newspeople are "on our side", and they shouldn't be. So, we tell 'em when they do it right, and we tell 'em when they do it wrong.

They SHOULD be objective. Given what we have been going through, when someone turns a corner and starts putting out some objective opinion, it should be commended. If you're so vindictive that you can't do that, that's up to you. But I hope the rest of us don't follow your example. It just isn't a world I want to face.

Kanary

[never_get_over_it]

59. Oh for god's sake

how is ignoring an ass hole who can't be trusted building a society that you don't want to live in. All Carolina is saying is that Matthews has a very bad track record - and should be ignored. How is that building any kind of society that you don't want to live in. Who the hell is even going to know if we thank the puke or not - I think your building a society remark is a tad melodramatic. We're just talking about ignoring a freak who has been AWFUL in the past and doesn't deserve credit simply because he did one good thing - now if Matthews has a TRUE conversion - which I totally doubt - then maybe he would deserve some kudos....

[Carolina]

74. thank you!

I actually took offense to ignored's personal digs, backhanded namecalling and comment about my "vindictiveness" ... simply because with very good reason, based on track record, I think Matthews is completely untrustworthy.

Hitting the ignore button was easier than engaging in further ridiculous dialogue about what kind of world ... :eyes:

Thanks for seeing my comments, as intended, simply as a straigtforward indictment of Tweety ... nothing more, nothing less :).

[Kanary]

77. for gawd's sake yourself..... if you don't like the way I say things,

use your gawddamned ignore button.

Y'know, DUers just *love* to trash each other over the most miniscule issues they can find.

There is so much work to be done to get our party, and our country back, and if you want to spend your energy focusing on this kind of crap, then do so, but leave me out of it.

We're not doing one thing differently by nastily refusing to acknowledge when someone in the media actualy makes a turn for the better, even if it is temporary. You can be SURE he is getting plenty of attacks from the RW for his more generous comments, and it's totally up to you whether you want to counteract that or not. If you don't, it makes no difference to me, but sermonizing about how he doesn't deserve it, etc., is just feeding the same negative monster you say you decry.

for gawd's sake...... make good use of your ignore button.

Kanary

[never_get_over_it]

91. Hey that is a great idea

thanks for the tip on the ignore button...and I have to say if you are implying that I trashed you because I said for God's sake - let me just say this - you'll know it if or when I ever trash you....but don't worry I'm not really the trashing type - but you apparently are the very sensitive typs - ooooh I hope you don't think I was trashing you. Really all I meant by for God's sake is to lighten up a bit - some of us REALLY REALLY hate Chris Matthews and just plain don't feel like thanking him for anything.

And feel free to use the ignore button for me too - whatever floats your boat.

[calimary]

69. Well, it might be in the way it's worded. But positive reinforcement

never hurts.

What you DO NOT want to do is give him the impression that he's now taken care of giving our side "equal time," so now it's safe for him to go back and start shilling again.

A comment made earlier about writing in and saying "I didn't know that" or "I'm REALLY interested in what you said or mentioned, because I hadn't heard that before - could you do more?" Almost as though you were one of those wavering or undecided voters whom EVERYONE lusts after, now, and you sincerely would like more light shed on some of the "facts" from the bush talking points machine.

It's all in the way it's worded. What must NOT be done is to give or encourage any impression that he's now officially taken care of THAT side, so now he can go back to business as usual.

Because they're gonna whore after the undecideds even more shamelessly than the bush campaign from here on. Take that to the bank.

[Kanary]

79. thank you, calimary, it really is a rather small and simple thing to do.

It's so amazing that DU needs to blow up every little thing into WWIII.

Kanary

[calimary]

81. No problem! Positive reinforcement is a MOST useful thing. It's all

in the way you word it.

Frankly I do not want to send ANYBODY spinning back to the Dark Side. What we need to encourage them to conclude that this side really HASN'T been explored sufficiently, and there are more nuggets to be mined, along this vein.

[Kanary]

85. More nuggest, indeed!

I use your now famous number to also *THANK* congresscritters who are doing the "right thing", rather than only chastising those who are making a mess. I do believe that the commendations have as much, if not more, power than the negatives.

Along those lines, for quite a while now, I've made a point of thanking those who are doing the thankless, menial tasks in our city. It's obvious they don't hear this side, because I always get a surprised look. Which makes it all the more fun. It's very sad that just saying thank you to someone who is hired by the city to empty the sidewalk trash cans can have their whole day brightened by just one person saying "Thank you". Who knows...... maybe one of those "thank yous" will one day result in enough of a conversation, that I'll even get someone to vote. :)

Kanary

[calimary]

87. YOWZA! Excellent!

More flies caught with honey...

We were having a GREAT discussion with another like-minded friend the other night (til maybe after 2am - coulda kept on MUCH longer) about the ways she's discovered to get through to the bush-heads. She said it DID involve a little bit of private gagging. She said the best way to reach some of these people is to (lie through your teeth and) say "well, bush is a good man and he means well, and he's probably tried. But it is REALLY time for a change. We really need a change of approach here, and maybe it's GONNA take some new people and new ideas and different approaches at the helm..."

You get the idea. Nauseating prospect to say anything about bush that's even remotely complimentary, but her point was well-taken: that sometimes you can get through more easily with a gentle tap on the shoulder than by hitting 'em in the face with the business end of a flame-thrower.

Hey, WHATEVER WORKS. Eyes on the Prize, Guys.

[Kanary]

88. Yeah, I could only do that on a very good day. Bile isn't pleasant. ^_^

I was working on a winger yesterday (who is a nice person, and does very good things for people, just very uninformed..... GAK), and I did get some things through, but I don't honestly know that I could get the kind of lies your friend is talking about to get past my teeth. :hi:

I want to make sure what I said about the hard-working people on the street isn't misunderstood. I've been doing this for quite a while now, not because I'm trying to change their mind or something, but truly because I *DO* appreciate their efforts, and most of us ignore those who aren't in more glamorous positions. They work just as hard, if not harder, and their lives are hard. They *do* deserve a kind word once in a while, for no other reason than to just let them know what they do is noticed.

We get a lot of tourists who comment on how clean and nice our city is, so I think the people responsible for it need to know.

It certainly doesn't cost me anything to do so. :)

Kanary

[buycitgo]

92. just preface your positive chimpmarks with stuff like this:

lots of people think bush is a strong.....

it's true that many people admire * for.....

if you put it that way, and sound positive as you say it, you don't have to feel so unclean

[Kanary]

94. ah, spin lessons...... ~~gigglesnort~~

Thanks for the suggestions......

:hi:

Kanary

[buycitgo]

95. no schvet.....gearing up for +reinforce

starting next week.......jr. high school wonderfuls

now I know why I'm not sleeping

[WinterStorm]

60. "Ding ding ding another winner"

You are so right!

[info being]

78. But the ding dings are getting really annoying around here.

[calimary]

67. I think you nailed it.

Watch how some other on-air people start "turning" accordingly. They're whores. They'll tilt whichever way the wind's blowing. They might start realizing it's time to suck up to some NEW people. If Kerry continues to make gains in the polls, and bush doesn't get the huge and "well-deserved" bump everybody expects GAWD to bestow upon him after the convention, you may see more of this.

In all fairness, I noticed a TEENSY bit more of a turn in Chris Matthews after he'd had the "Jersey Girls" (the four vocal, activist 9/11 widows - including that lady Kristin) on his show a few months ago, and was clearly, visibly, impressed with them and their truckloads of information and facts and statistics and contrarian views, and how articulate and serious and credible and heart-felt they were. He was CLEARLY struck by this, and VERY respectful of them - didn't give them ONE BIT of a hard time about anything they said (and MUCH of it was WAY critical of bush and this White House in general). Some of it sunk in. Because in later shows, when 9/11 issues or the commission came up, you could tell they'd left their mark on him from some of the comments and questions he came out with. I think the facade started to crack back then. They REALLY softened him up.

Not that I trust him, mind you. But I think a LOT of that hit home with him - and stayed there. It made a serious impression. He's not spoken about the 9/11 issues the same way since, and he stopped his wholesale parroting of the "party line" after they worked him over.

[movonne]

12. You are so right... I have seen this happen many times and the

DUer's gets all excited, then the next day, back to his rotten self..so we will see. I would love it if he would be consistent and doing his job by reporting fairly.

[Raenelle]

56. That is exactly my take on him. I also think he can fall under

the spell of Republican manly manliness generally.

[Lin]

5. Seems so doesn't it? Seems this smear is making even diehard skin crawl

This is enuf to make the worm turn for anyone...I mean, how LOW will you go for the * cretin, they're pushing even the scumbags with this dirty smear campaign, (not that Tweet's that low but...)

[wtf]

8. asdf

I've noticed something else as well, hardly a show goes by anymore where he doesn't focus on the KIA and injured soldiers in Iraq. Maybe he feels some sense of guilt about being such a pimp for the war. The way our media so thoroughly failed us has to weigh on the conscience of even the most self-involved media pundits.

[jayfish]

20. Of All The Things Tweety Is/Was, He Was Never A...

"pimp" for the war. I was watching the night he came out against the war and posted about on DU.

(The search function is disabled on the old DU or I would provide a link)

Jay

[Lefty48197]

6. He's been a journalist for two straight days now

something is drastically wrong.

[calimary]

72. LOL! VERY funny! Great line!

[jjmalonejr]

11. Matthews gets slammed WAY too much on DU

He's an equal opportunity tough guy. He asks people difficult questions, both on the left and the right. It might be infuriating to see one of OUR folks twisting in the wind while he hammers away at them on tough issues, but he does the same thing to both sides.

He's been consistently outspoken in his opposition to the war, but that doesn't seem to satisfy a lot of people here.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

13. No! He's been a Whore until now. He was horrible during the....

Democratic Convention.

:eyes:

[jjmalonejr]

26. Why, because he doesn't sing the praises of everything the Democrats do?

Neither do I and neither do most of the people on DU.

[kodi]

34. no, during sharpton's speech he cut in with "al started out as a liar"

and spent the next 45 minutes attacking sharpton's speech as a call for class warfare.

that's why.

[DaveSZ]

14. A real journalist should try to be down the middle

nt

[jjmalonejr]

28. I agree

Matthews doesn't let EITHER side get away with spinning. The idea is to get people off script and force them to answer unexpected questions. It may be infuriating to see people we like get called on the carpet for spouting their talking points, but Matthews plays the same game with Republicans and Democrats.

People like O'Reilly, who claim to be "no spin", play a one-sided game. They spin for conservatives, but hold liberals' feet to the fire. I hate that. I prefer seeing BOTH sides get the same treatment. Sure, the "good guys" might stumble from time to time, but I think that in the long run the best ideas win out when there's a referee trying to keep them honest.

I think Matthews is a pretty honest referee. Tough, but impartial.

[buycitgo]

36. did you see Schwartzkopf?

did he let him get away with spinning?

watch in an hour and decide for yourself

I saw the soundfree version, with occasional volume up, and I didn't see him scowl, so I imagine that tweety was pretty easy on him

there are certain people he does not cross, and others, like Fund, that he reams one day, then gives a pass the next

in other words......Sybil

[jjmalonejr]

48. I watched it

I wouldn't say he let him get away with spinning, but he DID let him get away with dodging certain questions.

Schwartzkopf wants to be straightforward without being seen as attacking the President. I think Matthews understands and respects that. He did ask him some tough questions, but he backed off when Schwartzkopf appeared unwilling to answer directly. I don't fault him for that.

Is that inconsistent? Perhaps. Corporate media whore RNC shill? Uh...no.

[Raenelle]

57. He was absolutely unbearable during Clinton. Iraq was the turn for him

He was not at all fair, even-handed, tough on both sides, etc., while Clinton was president . . . and he was with Woodward and Fineman about Bush until Iraq.

[billyskank]

62. No way!

A real journalist tries to get to the truth of the matter, or at least what they think the truth of the matter is (if it is open to interpretation). If it is open to interpretation then another journalist will report another slant on it, and both voices should be heard. That is proper diversity of opinion.

What you're talking about is this pernicious idea of "fairness," or "balance" as it is sometimes called, which basically means a journalist can't try to report what they think is the objective truth at all but simply give air to all whacko opinions.

If you were reporting on something related to the holocaust (to make an extreme example) would you, in the interests of "fairness" and "balance," have to give airtime to some nutter who thinks that it never happened?

What this notion of "balance" means is that anybody who wants to can inexorably drag the discourse in whatever direction they want simply be espousing the most extreme views possible, and by vigorously "working the refs" whenever reportage unfavourable to their point of view comes out.

I don't think IF Stone would think much of your idea what real journalism is.

[vivalarev]

15. Lets all keep our fingers crossed

i hope to god he stays this way. the past 2 days, he has been on a tear and right now, i enjoy watching him.

[Carolina]

39. He's an equal opportunity tough guy????!!!!

Are you amnestic about his manic, lunatic, spittle-oozing rants and raving during the Clinton years, or of his poorly concealed, Bush-bolstering hatred of Al Gore during the 2000 campaign? He has NEVER treated repukes the way he treated Bill, Hilary or Al. Equal my ass. He's a fucking, obnoxious self-serving bastardardized media whore.

The only thing good I can say about him is that he was against the war. But even that didn't stop him from fawning over * codpiece and manliness during the "Mission Accomplished" stunt. Puhleeze. Go Cheney yourself, Tweety.

[jjmalonejr]

49. Admittedly, I did not follow Matthews during his Clinton bashing years.

He still makes no bones about his distaste for Clinton, but even I have to admit that there's plenty to criticize as far as Clinton goes.

You may have a better perspective than I, as it sounds like you've been following him longer. I'm just saying that people here on DU jump on his every move when he's rough on a Dem, but get all woozy when he's rough on a Repub.

[Carolina]

53. fair enough but

there's more than plenty to criticize Bush about BUT never has Chris gone after Bush with the pure venom he unleashed on both Clintons.

Even more unforgivable was his treatment of Gore because he "just doesn't like the guy." He helped Bush steal 2000 and for that I have absolutely no use for him which is why I agree with you, I can't understand why our fellow DUers "get all woozy when he's rough on a Repub." It's likely temporary since he'll do whatever he's paid to do, and you can't bet he'll be back to his Bush-coddling ways forthwith. His CV credentials may be those of a journalist but his real life (yes, I've met him ... see post below) and TV persona are pure obnoxious whore.

[tuvor]

43. He asked no tough questions of bush

Sorry, but that's one big hole in your theory.

[in_cog_ni_to]

16. He doesn't like the fact that his show was "USED."

Rhandi Rhodes said it best today..."Now Chris knows what it feels like to have your words twisted and your show USED in a slanderous ad." She thinks that's why he's so pissed. They used quotes from HIS show...out of context...like they do to Dems ALL the time. It doesn't taste so good when it's YOU

[Logansquare]

45. True--It's personal now. Too bad these guys have to taste it themselves

to understand it's endemic. Reminds me of the turnaround of Howard Stern after the FCC started stalking him.

[Joanne98]

18. Sorry I left. I had to walk my dog.

I've read everybody's comments and have decided to thank him. He was against the Iraq war before it even started so I think he might be for real. Even though it's just probably him just wanting to say, "I was right" it's better than nothing. I don't think he's very brave so he probably needs the postive e-mail more than most people.

[doc03]

19. Let's not get carried away, he just said Kerry is wishy-washy!

[Disturbed]

21. Chris Matthews- Bio

http://primetimetv.about.com/cs/tvnews/a/chrismathews.htm

Matthews is an author, international journalist, and no-nonsense political commentator. He was a nationally syndicated columnist for the San Francisco Chronicle and is the author of best-selling books such as, “Now Let Me Tell You What I Really Think” (2001), “Hardball” (1988), and “Kennedy and Nixon” (1996), which was selected by Reader’s Digest magazine as part of its “Today’s Best Nonfiction.” He joined the San Francisco Examiner in 1987 where he served as Washington Bureau Chief for 13 years.

Prior to entering journalism, Matthews served as White House aide and speechwriter to President Jimmy Carter and as a top aide to former Speaker of the House Thomas P. O’Neill, Jr.

Matthews covered the opening of the Berlin Wall, the first all-races election in South Africa and the historic peace referendum on Northern Ireland. In 1997 and 1998, his digging in the National Archives produced a series of Examiner scoops on the Nixon presidential tapes. He has twice received the Washington Post’s “Crystal Ball” award for his successful predictions of U.S. elections.

A graduate of Holy Cross, Matthews completed graduate work in economics at the University of North Carolina and was a trade development advisor with the U.S. Peace Corps in Swaziland. He has received honorary doctoral degrees from St. Leo University, Loyola College (Maryland), Niagara University, Fontbonne College, Beaver College, the New England School of Law, Anna Maria College and Chestnut Hill College.
He is married to Kathleen Matthews, a news anchor for the ABC affiliate WJLA-TV in Washington, D.C. They and their three children live in Chevy Chase, MD.

[Carolina]

42. sounds good and innocuous ...

even impressive, but read David Brock's assessment in the Republican Noise Machine!

Chris is a self-serving prick.

On a personal note, I lived in DC for 40 years and while house hunting in the area back in 1992, bumped up against Chris's obnoxiousness in person. Hubby and I were with our realtor looking at a house in upper NW near Chevy Chase. His Tweetiness, all loud-mouth bluster even then, walks in like he owns the place already and starts firing questions at our realtor (the same way he does Democratic guests on Hardball)rather than to the listing one who was in another room. He was completely, obnoxiously oblivious to us standing there talking prior to his rude interruption and it was obvious that he didn't care. We were pee-ons while he was SOMEBODY ... a legend in his own mind. He came first, he was all Id --- me, me, me. Anyway, my husband shoots him a fuck you look at the same time turning to me and the realtor with an expression of who-the-fuck-is-this? Well, LOL, both the realtor and I shout, practically in unison, that's that obnoxious loudmouth married to local news gal Kathleen Matthews.

I swear it was after that -- well, the cost of housing in the DC metro area too -- that hubby decided to pack his bags for his native SC!

[Joanne98]

22. Done

here's the link for all the MSNBC shows
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3303518/

We already have Don Imus, not that he's very brave either.

I just switched to Paula (puke) Zahn. If we see her switch then we'll know for sure we're winning. It looks like she might have Sibel Edmonds on.

[elfin]

23. It's because the RNC clipped a quote from HIS show

Otherwise, he wouldn't be so irate. It appears to me they can do anything else to smear, except by misquoting HIS show. We'll see if he is as upset when they misquote other sources.

[Joanne98]

24. FBI whistle blowers on CNN right now. Paula Zahn

Is she becoming a good guy? I can't believe it. Maybe I should start watching TV again.

[Snellius]

25. He's one of those guys who sins, confesses, & does it all over again

Tweety's just in one of his contrite phases.

Or maybe it's finally begun to dawn on him that the reason so much has done wrong in the Bush administration is not just Cheney or the neocons or the fundies or all the other clowns, but the guy at center ring of the this fool's circus: George Bush.

[Sophree]

31. Totally!

I never thought him like that, but you're completely right.

He was really pissed at that O'Neill Swiftboats for Bush guy the other night, and rightfully so. Snubbed him at the end and didn't thank him for being on the show like he did the guy from the Kerry campaign.

He's been pissed when the Jersey Girls have been on, too. I think he started really thinking about the unanswered questions.

We'll see if it lasts.

[spanone]

27. He's pissed off at the right. They used a clip out of context from his

show in a bush* ad.

[ItsMyParty]

29. Matthews is basically just a basic fuck-up, nobody

He runs with the wind. We wants his paycheck. He knowd he has to whore and then someone sends him an e-mail. He wants to be on whatever side wins. But Mr. GREAT ANALYST knows that he is a fucking fraud who can't even figure out when his dog needs to be taken out to pee. So he just runs with what he thinks people want for the day. In a word, he's as pathetic as the pathetic one in the Oval Office----perhaps that's why he keeps returning to worship him. He's one of those people in America who are worthless, know it, but are getting a big salary and scared to death someone will find out and his big salary will be gone. Keith Olberman knows who he is and what he stand for--watch him and turn this gas bag off.

[Lugnut]

30. Not the light side.

Tweety is a political windsock.....whatever way the wind blows. Enjoy the moment and prepare yourself for his next metamorphosis.

[redstateblues]

32. Bombard Him With E-Mails- Make Sure He Knows There are

many of us Dems watching him- reward him when he's good- slam him when he's bad- but stay on him so he won't go back to trying to compete with Faux. I'll bet his ratings have jumped since he started being a little more fair

[Arugula Latte]

52. Dear Tweety: Thanks for not SUCKING so spectacularly lately.

-- your friend (insert name)

[Carolina]

54. LOL

damning with faint praise! :hi:

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

33. Chris Matthews newspaper columns were VERY anti Iraq war

I admit to hating Chris Matthews. I don't like the way he unfairly trashed Dennis Kucinich and Wesley Clark. I don't like the way he summarily dismissed Fahrenheit 911 as "pure BS". But in his defense, when he is writing his own thoughts on the Iraq war, when he is not interviewing others but instead telling us what he himself thinks, his anti-war position well in advance of the war was very, very powerful. Matthews was unequivocally against the war in Iraq and he tried to warn us about the Neocons. Read these two articles by him in the San Francisco Chronicle written before the war. They haven't changed my feelings of animosity towards him for his pandering to the Washington power structure and unfairly trashing great Americans like Kucinich and Clark. But as they seem so strongly anti-Bush, they make me wonder who the real Chris Matthews is.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2002/09/01/IN133269.DTL

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2002/03/24/IN164155.DTL

[buycitgo]

38. thanks, but no thanks on those articles

that just makes him a WORSE ho than he already is

if he'd applied just a tiny bit of that logic to the 2000 campaign, maybe enough people would not have been influenced to vote for the fraud; then he'd not have come close enough to steal the election

[otohara]

35. Hope He Doesn't Get Fired

for growing a spine! Remember Donahue!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

40. I'm tempted to drop him a note that says,

"Who are you, really; and what have you done with Chris Matthews?" But I tend to agree that Tweety is basically a 'ho, and he's hedging his bets. Even so, Tweety's unusual display of cojones suggests that at least some of the 'hos have sensed that the political winds are shifting.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

46. I always make it a point to reward someone for good behavior.

It tends to make the person increase their good behavior. Negative reinforcement is not nearly as effective as postive reinforcement.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

50. Figured it out: He's pissed that they misquoted Kerry w/ a Hardball quote.

They "butchered" a clip from Hardball that showed Kerry saying that he was anti-war but took it out of context. He's been harping about how Bush and the Republican's are not being unfair.

He's taking it personally. He will be on the warpath unless they admit that they're wrong.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

51. He said "Bush needs to fix this. They need to get this straight."

[mondo joe]

58. Right - only room for one person to mis-quote Hardball guests

Right - there's only room for one person to mis-quote Hardball guests and that privilege is reserved for Chris Matthews!

[Claire Beth]

64. you're exactly correct! n/t

[LTR]

55. Lots of people here don't like Matthews...

...But I like him.

TV news people should ask tough questions of EVERYONE, not just one party. He does this. If a talking head or reporter were tough on everyone, I would not be offended if they treat everyone the same.

I'm willing to bet MSNBC has laid off the strict 'don't criticize the President' mantra they've been pounding for a while. They seem to be veering more centrist, which is good. It seems like they're even trying to do it to Joe the Intern Slayer.

Tweety's pretty decent, but he does have some unresolved sexual hangups.

[Shopaholic]

61. Let's Ego Stroke Him---

I get the daily Hardball e-mail newsletter and I can tell you right now that Tweety was way too happy with himself for his Matthew Dowd takedown on Monday. He's got a massive ego--so let's feed it. I know we've had differences with him in the past and he's still damning Kerry with faint praise but let's reward him for what he's doing right while still continuing to hit him on BS when he's wrong. He's been more on than off these days and with his massive ego, trust me, his type will respond to praise & admiration. And you gotta figure that he's being bombarded with Freeper protests at the moment so we need to let our liberal voices be heard over their din.

[randome]

70. Not me!

I ain't strokin' nuthin' named Tweety!

[EST]

73. You make good sense.

I, too have gotten so thoroughly disgusted with Rudeball, in the past, that I avoided the show for months. His mind is spinning so fast, he interrupts his own question with another. If you listened to his clip yesterday from January, you, no doubt, will notice that he started out with one question, interrupted himself to start another, and finally asked a third. No wonder if Kerry might look a little confused. When he wrapped it up by stating KERRY was wishy-washy, after his crap questions, I got pissed. He, IMO, is not tough, it's just tough to analyze wtf he actually said. He says he wants to be able to watch people think on their feet, not noticing they're thinking, "wtf did he say?"

[Carolina]

76. love your post

and agree totally. Chris is all about Chris ... loud, rude, interrupts everyone including himself, LOL. He doesn't care what people think or say UNLESS he's involved.

I turned him off after how he savaged Gore in 2000. A fellow DUer, however, calls me with heads up about segments to watch so I tune in occasionally, but find the crumbs he sparingly tosses our way aren't worth the misery of watching him masturbate verbally.

[EST]

80. Ha! LOL

Love it! Are you saying he is guilty of that terribly common disease, mind f***ing? (giggle)

[Carolina]

86. kinda sorta ....

LOL, he's just all tongue, all the time and only interested in himself :evilgrin:

[kerry-is-my-prez]

90. Agree w/you. You must "manage" people like Tweety.

You sometimes have to play games with people like that - especially when they are jerks who hold some power over things. Let's face it - Tweety is one who can help us or hurt us in the quest to get Kerry elected.

Not to sound evil - but if you want to change things/people you have to "manage" them. Learn what makes them tick - what motivates them. You not only have to "manage" your employees but you have to "manage" your boss. If something in this world is important to you - you can't just withdraw and give up. If you're smart enough and know the right buttons to push - you can persuade people.

For example: never ask your boss for anything when he's in a bad mood - because he'll just say no. If he's in a REALLY bad mood - just stay away from him. If you absolutely have to deal with him when he's in a bad mood - get him in a good mood by asking him about his favorite thing (how are the Cardinals doing?). Brownnosing the boss isn't necessary - "managing" him/her is. Know how to "present" things.

Chris Matthews hates "suck-ups" so you don't suck up to him. You manage his ego.

[buycitgo]

93. would you mind making a daily post of that?

great way to see what's on the show, as well as a look into his overbloated ego

his poor staffers

[Claire Beth]

63. the ONLY reason that Chris Matthews

jumped the Bushit/Cheneyass campaign over the "anti-war" issue was because the BUSH/Cheney campaign used a video clip (and edited the clip to LIE) they got from HARDBALL where Chris Matthews had interviewed Kerry. He wouldn't have said anything except for the fact they used Hardball. Of course, I'm glad he did jump their asses (they sure deserved it) but I don't see him as joining forces to oust Bush.

[gauguin57]

65. Tweety starting to get ready for Senate run in PA.

There have been rumors for years that he's gonna run for Senate someday from his home state of PA.

As a Democrat.

Maybe against Santorum.

Do the math.

[West Coast Democrat]

82. What a rotten idea...

I hope he doesn't get through the primary.

[GingerSnaps]

66. When Bush puts his jeans on Tweety will go back to Tweety

He loves Bush in his jeans.

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

68. To quote Bob Dylan

'you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows'

[jcgadfly]

71. He also tends to go easier on Kerry

than he does for other Democrats. I don't know whether it's respect or Kerry handed him his head in the past but Matthews tends to back off on Kerry.

[rocktivity]

75. Chris is spitting mad because somebody spit on HIM

link

Below is the FULL exchange between Chris Matthews and John Kerry:

MATTHEWS: Do you think you belong in that category of candidates who more or less are unhappy with this war? The way it‘s been fought? Along with General Clark, along with Howard Dean, and not necessarily in companionship politically on the issue of the war with people like Lieberman, Edwards and Gephardt? Are you one of the anti-war candidates?

KERRY: I am. Yes. In the sense that I don‘t believe the president took to us war as he should have, yes. Absolutely. Do I think this president violated his promises to America? Yes, I do, Chris. Was there a way to hold Saddam Hussein accountable? You bet there was and we should have done it right.

This is what the RNC-related web video used:

MATTHEWS: Are you one of the anti-war candidates?
KERRY: I am. Yes.

The RNC cut Tweety's QUESTION as well as Kerry's answer. Kerry COULDN'T have said that he was THE anti-war candidate, because if you read the transcript, that's NOT what Tweety asked him!

That's the real reason why his panties are in a twist: this isn't about the besmirching of Kerry's "honor," but of his own. And I don't blame him--Tweety has invested a lot of time and effort in cultivating his ability to ask at least five questions, and answer at least two of them, at the same time!

I guess we should just be grateful that the political parties of the parties involved aren't reversed.

:headbang:
rocknation

[EST]

84. Hear! Hear!

Haha.

[West Coast Democrat]

83. What until after the RNC Convention before you make a call on that....

Don't jump to any conclusions about Tweety coming to his senses!

[drbtg1]

89. never mind

someone else said what I was going to say