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ParisFrance Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 11:52 PM
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This is worse than a republican
I can understand republicans voting for their party. What I cannot understand is how a Dem can be for Bush. You must be of complete idiocy to think Bush will be better.
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 11:54 PM
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1. Um which "Dem" besides Zell do you see supporting Bush?
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ParisFrance Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 11:55 PM
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2. Isn't there one from Louisiana ?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 11:57 PM
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7. Non. He switched parties because il est un traître!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 11:55 PM
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4. And I do not consder Zell a Democrat anymore
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ParisFrance Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 11:57 PM
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9. Not just office holders or has beens, but common folk
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 11:57 PM
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10. Well notice my quotes around the word "Dem"
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ParisFrance Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 12:01 AM
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12. Yes, I'm talking about regular people that are dems for Bush
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 03:13 AM
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28. Locally, the mayor of St. Paul, MN
Dumbass has been in the newspapers the past week because of it.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 11:55 PM
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3. Je conviens mon amie
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 11:57 PM
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6. que?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 11:59 PM
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11. Ai, descúlpame. Yo dije "estoy de acuerdo."
Nuestro amigo es Frences entonces queria hablar su idioma propio.
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 12:04 AM
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13. oh okay esta bien
You know both French and Spanish?

Spanish was my first language, I wish I could learn French...I plan to try if I ever get some free time...
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 12:43 AM
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14. Actualmente, falo Português melhor que os dois outros
Do you understand Portuguese? That's my favorite language. I used to speak German, but it has gotten very bad since I haven't needed to speak it for over 13 years. I'm sure you can learn French if Spanish is your first language. Maybe if you like Portuguese you can try that first? It is a very beautiful language and I found that it helped me understand Italian and French better. The sad thing is, I cannot speak Spanish very well now. Cada vez eu abra a boca, Português saia... and I lived in Costa Rica on and off for five years! Ahora, (depois que vivir no Brasil) mis amigos Ticos siempre estan riendose a mi porque hablo como un Gallego. ¡Ridículo!
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 11:56 PM
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5. You can't be a Democrat and a Bush supporter!
Are we talking about people like Zell Miller?? At best I would classify him as an opportunist.

This makes as much sense to me as a Feminist who likes Ann Coulter.

:shrug:
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Demonaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 11:57 PM
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8. got to agree
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sidestreamer Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 12:53 AM
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15. I've heard of a few Dems who think a vote for Kerry is a vote against
Hillary Clinton, and they want her to run in 2008 so they'd rather see Kerry defeated.

Then there's this group who think the nation can only get better if it suffers more, so they vote for Bush.

Then of course are those pretending to be Democrats or liberals...
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Libralabrat Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 12:56 AM
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16. Laissez les bontemps rouller!! Fellow rat from Louisiana....
I am an independant. I didnt vote for Bush last time...I think his campaign slogan should be "lets really win in 2004".....But enough of that. I would vote for Kerry reguardless.....Bush is a liar, and completely out of touch with planet earth.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 01:02 AM
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18. erm, most people on THIS forum don't refer to Democrats as "rats".
Edited on Wed Aug-18-04 01:05 AM by Mayberry Machiavelli
Unless you and the other poster both attended the Virginia Military Institute and are "Brother Rats".

Or were you responding to "Swamp Rat" from Louisiana?

But welcome to DU...
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sidestreamer Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 01:10 AM
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22. CUmstains and Freepers do...
Especially CUmstains. Every DUer is a "rat" to them.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 12:57 AM
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17. I've only "heard" of this on Right Wing radio shows like Limbaugh and
Hannity, never from an actual Democrat. I have never met any actual Democrat who would vote for Bush in this election just because of some theoretical prospect that Hilary could run in 2008 if Kerry lost. Have YOU?

Most real Democrats think so much damage is being done to the country under this administration that it is an absolute imperative that they must be stopped just so that the damage: economic, reputation, dead soldiers, constitutional, can stop and begin to be repaired. A Kerry election in NOV is the single most important thing on the national agenda now.

What do YOU think?
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Libralabrat Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 01:06 AM
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19. May, was referring to names...
libralab RAT, and swamp RAT.....trust me, after posting my butt off on LNF, I have heard it all......so I know of the Demon Rat slur...although i thing it is kind of funny.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 01:07 AM
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20. Sorry I do get a little touchy from all the infiltrators. No harm
intended.
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Libralabrat Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 01:10 AM
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21. Repugs are similar
except they accuse everyone who disagrees with them as a troll or imposter...
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 01:11 AM
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23. What is LNF? n/t
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Libralabrat Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 01:13 AM
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24. "Liberty" news forum
Stomping ground for the rightest of right wingers, and the most self righteous of religious nazis....check it out, and especially say hi to Justice for all...>:)
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sidestreamer Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 01:15 AM
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25. If they seriously think like that, I think they're even worse than your
garden-variety conservative/republican. Having someone consciously vote in a manner that is detrimental to their nation for any reason is rather disgusting, I think.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 01:18 AM
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26. But you are the one who brought this up. I was asking YOU if you
actually knew of anyone, claiming to be a Democrat, who thought this way. I've only heard this as an idiotic fantasy on Right Wing radio which is still occasionally repeated.
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sidestreamer Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 01:33 AM
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27. Personally no. I only read about it in a newspaper.
Some community college student actually wanted to clear Kerry out of the competition for Hillary, according to this article. Seemed suspicious, actually.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 03:27 AM
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29. Dumb All Over
May I refer you to the words of The Enlightened Frank Zappa?
Dumb All Over (from the 1981 album "You Are What You Is")

Whoever we are
Wherever we're from
We shoulda noticed by now
Our behavior is dumb
And if our chances
Expect to improve
It's gonna take a lot more
Than tryin' to remove
The other race
Or the other whatever
From the face
Of the planet altogether

They call it THE EARTH
Which is a dumb kinda name
But they named it right
'Cause we behave the same...
*We are dumb all over*
Dumb all over,
Yes we are
Dumb all over,
Near 'n far
Dumb all over,
Black 'n white
People, we is not wrapped tight

Nurds on the left
Nurds on the right
Religous fanatics
On the air every night
Sayin' the Bible
Tells the story
Makes the details
Sound real gory
'Bout what to do
If the geeks over there
Don't believe in the book
We got over here

You can't run a race
Without no feet
'N pretty soon
There won't be no street
For dummies to jog on
Or doggies to dog on
Religous fanatics
Can make it be all gone
(I mean it won't blow up
'N disappear
It'll just look ugly
For a thousand years...)

You can't run a country
By a book of religion
Not by a heap
Or a lump or a smidgeon
Of foolish rules
Of ancient date
Designed to make
You all feel great
While you fold, spindle
And mutilate
Those unbelievers
From a neighboring state

TO ARMS! TO ARMS!
Hooray! That's great
Two legs ain't bad
Unless there's a crate
They ship the parts
To mama in
For souvenirs: two ears *(Get Down!)*
Not his, not hers, *(but what the hey?)*
The Good Book says:
*("It gotta be that way!")*
But their book says:
*"REVENGE THE CRUSADES...
With whips 'n chains
'N hand grenades..."*
TWO ARMS? TWO ARMS?
Have another and another
Our God says:
*"There ain't no other!"*
Our God says
*"It's all okay!"*
Our God says
*"This is the way!"*

It says in the book:
*"Burn 'n destroy...*
*'N repent, 'n redeem*
*'N revenge, 'n deploy*
*'N rumble thee forth*
*To the land of the unbelieving scum on the other side*
*'Cause they don't go for what's in the book*
*'N that makes 'em BAD*
*So verily we must choppeth them up*
*And stompeth them down*
*Or rent a nice French bomb*
*To poof them out of existance*
*While leaving their real estate just where we need it*
*To use again*
*For temples in which to praise
OUR GOD*
*("Cause he can really take care of business!")*

And when his humble TV servant
With humble white hair
And humble glasses
And a nice brown suit
And maybe a blond wife who takes phone calls
Tells us our God says
It's okay to do this stuff
Then we gotta do it,
'Cause if we don't do it,
We ain't gwine up to *hebbin!*
(Depending on which book you're using
at the time...Can't use theirs... it don't work
...it's all lies...Gotta use mine...)
Ain't that right?
That's what they say
Every night...
Every day...
Hey, we can't really be dumb
If we're just following *God's Orders*
Hey, let's get serious...
God knows what he's doin'
He wrote this book here
An' the book says:
*He made us all to be just like Him,"
so...
If we're dumb...
Then God is dumb...
*(An' maybe even a little ugly on the side)*
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