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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 09:47 PM
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Should racists be deported?
Edited on Wed Aug-18-04 09:47 PM by Vladimir
I mean, while we are busy getting all the immigrants and suchlike...
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 09:48 PM
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1. Well, I'd have to wave goodbye to 95% of my relatives....
So yeah, DEPORT THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS!!!
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 09:48 PM
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2. Nope
Everybody's got their say in the grand old USA
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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 09:49 PM
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3. It would get damn lonely here and who would we argue with
n/t
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 09:52 PM
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6. Well we could keep a few around
for amusement, and in O'Reilly's case for producing bad pornography for us to laugh at...
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 09:50 PM
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4. I'm there.
I really thought though that we should deport everyone who thinks that only they have a right to eat and support their families because at the time they are legal, whatever that means.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 09:50 PM
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5. Yes.
To third world countries in Africa and Latin America where they are the minority and prone to discrimination.
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 09:54 PM
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7. No and here's the simple reason
Edited on Wed Aug-18-04 09:58 PM by noahmijo
What would legally constitute an act of racism?

If a black guy and a white guy get into a fight over something that has nothing to do with race are you gonna book them both for accounts of racism?

Who does it apply to? yahoos from the south aren't the only ones capable of being racist?

I prefer to just ignore racists and keep them out of my life as much as possible.

Plus guess what people? that's the downside to a free country that allows free thought.

I support the notion of allowing free thought even sick free thought like racism it's when the ACT of racism comes out THAT'S when we lay down the law.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 09:57 PM
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8. Yeah, & Not Given These Drivers Licences
from this website: http://www.bustamanteno.com/Lawlessness.html comes this:

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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 09:59 PM
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10. We don't need no stinkin badges!!!
Okay before anyone calls this racist I'm half Mexican and I think this is hysterical.

Oh yea and Treasure of the Sierre Madre is an outstanding movie.
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 09:59 PM
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11. My stomach hirts now
you bad bad person :evilgrin:
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 10:04 PM
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15. Uh, I'm Not Quoting It in an APPROVING Way n/t
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 10:19 PM
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22. I know, but its still bloody hilarious n/t
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 09:57 PM
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9. Why, no, of course not
Edited on Wed Aug-18-04 10:05 PM by Jack Rabbit
They are American citizens.

For my argument, I defer to a classic af American literature:

Well, with that the argument began—and it went hot and heavy. At first, Jabez Stone had a flicker of hope, but when he saw Dan'l Webster being forced back at point after point, he just scrunched in his corner, with his eyes on that japanned box. For there wasn't any doubt as to the deed or the signature—that was the worst of it. Dan'l Webster twisted and turned and thumped his fist on the table, but he couldn't get away from that. He offered to compromise the case; the stranger wouldn't hear of it. He pointed out the property had increased in value, and state senators ought to be worth more; the stranger stuck to the letter of the law. He was a great lawyer, Dan'l Webster, but we know who's the King of Lawyers, as the Good Book tells us, and it seemed as if, for the first time, Dan'l Webster had met his match.

Finally, the stranger yawned a little. "Your spirited efforts on behalf of your client do you credit, Mr. Webster," he said, "but if you have no more arguments to adduce, I'm rather pressed for time—"and Jabez Stone shuddered.

Dan'l Webster's brow looked dark as a thundercloud.

"Pressed or not, you shall not have this man!" he thundered. "Mr. Stone is an American citizen, and no American citizen may be forced into the service of a foreign prince. We fought England for that in '12 and we'll fight all hell for it again!"

"Foreign?" said the stranger. "And who call me a foreigner?"

"Well, I never yet heard of the dev—of your claiming American citizenship," said Dan'l Webster with surprise.

"And who with better right?" said the stranger, with one of his terrible smiles. "When the first wrong was done to the first Indian, I was there. When the first slaver put out for the Congo, I stood on her deck. Am I not in your books and stories and beliefs, from the first settlements on? Am I not spoken of, still, in every church in New England? 'Tis true the North claims me for a Southerner and the South for a Northerner, but I am neither. I am merely an honest American like yourself—and of the best descent—for, to tell the truth, Mr. Webster, though I don't like to boast of it, my name is older in this country than yours."

"Aha!" said Dan'l Webster, with the veins standing out in his forehead. "Then I stand on the Constitution! I demand a trial for my client!"

"The case is hardly one for an ordinary court," said the stranger, his eyes flickering. "And, indeed, the lateness of the hour—"

"Let it be any court you choose, so it is an American judge and an American jury!" said Dan'l Webster in his pride. "Let it be the quick or the dead; I'll abide the issue!"

"You have said it," said the stranger, and pointed his finger at the door. And with that, and all of a sudden, there was a rushing of wind outside and a noise of footsteps. They came, clear and distinct, through the night. And yet, they were not like the footsteps of living men.

"In God's name, who comes by so late?" cried Jabez Stone, in an ague of fear.

"The jury Mr. Webster demands," said the stranger, sipping at his boiling glass. "You must pardon the rough appearance of one or two; they will have come a long way."
And with that the fire burned blue and the door blew open and twelve men entered, one by one.

If Jabez Stone had been sick with terror before, he was blind with terror now. For there was Walter Butler, the Loyalist, who spread fire and horror through the Mohawk Valley in the times of the Revolution; and there was Simon Girty, the renegade, who saw white men burned at the stake and whooped with the Indians to see them burn. His eyes were green, like a catamount's, and the stains on his hunting shirt did not come from the blood of the deer. King Philip was there, wild and proud as he had been in life, with the great gash in his head that gave him his death wound, and cruel Governor Dale, who broke men on the wheel. There was Morton of Merry Mount, who so vexed the Plymouth Colony, with his flushed, loose, handsome face and his hate of the godly. There was Teach, the bloody pirate, with his black beard curling on his breast. The Reverend John Smeet, with his strangler's hands and his Geneva gown, walked as daintily as he had to the gallows. The red print of the rope was still around his neck, but he carried a perfumed handkerchief in one hand. One and all, they came into the room with the fires of hell still upon them, and the stranger named their names and their deeds as they came, till the tale of twelve was told. Yet the stranger had told the truth—they had all played a part in America.

From The Devil and Daniel Webster by Stephen Vincet Benet
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 10:00 PM
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12. TO where?
How about a country full of the kind of people the hate
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 10:02 PM
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14. Iraq? n/t
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 10:01 PM
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13. YES
people who believe that they enjoy special moral status because their mother's vagina was between the mexican and canadian borders at the moment of their birth are embarrassments to this country.
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Katarina Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 10:06 PM
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16. So true!
I totally agree.
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HollowHead Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 10:06 PM
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17. A racist needs to be educated
It's getting more difficult to see sarcasm.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 10:07 PM
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18. No. America as it was intended was (and maybe shall be again)
Edited on Wed Aug-18-04 10:09 PM by tom_paine
a place where people could be free to hold their own opinions

(it still largely is that, but the fraying around the edges is the symptom of a much greater disease that hasn't full manifested yet...and I pray it never does)

That includes, whether you like it or not...racism (providing they keep it to themselves and don't hurt anybody).

Or, in your case, though I don't agree with nor like your philosophy, you should have the right to believe in Communism (I believe I saw you mention it on a previous thread).

In either case, as long as a racist doesn't hurt anyone else nor impose their racism on someone (which in this case is pretty equivalent to hurting them), they have every right to carry that belief.

Of course, I realize you were joking, and perhaps I am a lousy pedantic bastid...but that's my 2 cents...

:evilgrin:
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 10:10 PM
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19. You are a lousy pedant
Edited on Wed Aug-18-04 10:10 PM by Vladimir
but then I am communist, so that makes us even ;)
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 10:13 PM
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20. And this right to hold opinions I hope extends to
people who speak other languages than English? :-)
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 10:49 PM
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23. Yep.
Of course.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 12:52 AM
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24. Excellent post, Mr. Paine
You do the original Tom Paine proud.

As paradoxical as it may seem, democracy demands that we tolerate those who would undermine the system. Our state would cease to be democratic by casting out such people and making their dissent a crime as surely as we would by following their council.
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 10:14 PM
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21. Whether we 'should' or not is one thing
But when racist idiots starts screaming that Blacks should go back to Africa, Mexicans should go back to Mexico and Asians should go back to China (they're all from China ya know :eyes )etc., then I say send them back to their own country of origin if they so loath ethnic diversity in the US. Because those that spew this hateful racist garbage don't look Native to this land either. So THEY should be the ones to go "home!"

I have no tolerance for racists. I really don't :grr:
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