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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 07:29 AM
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Is there any connection to these images?
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 07:33 AM by AmerDem




you see here skinhead types making crucifixes from campaign memorabilia but notice these guys are wearing the same shirt with a symbol? Recently I read here so called Christian flags are becoming all the rage amongst the lunatic right.





Any connection?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 07:39 AM
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1. I doubt it, but with this crowd..who knows..n/t
:(
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 07:40 AM
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2. They have a really dumb website.
There are more pictures of Kerry on the front page than Smirky. However, they do have that oh so sincere picture of the Boy King dressed up as Ronald Reagan with a cowboy hat on.

Just another whacko faction.
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 08:11 AM
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6. Who are "They"?
Can you provide a link? Thanks!
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 08:15 AM
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8. Look at the white cross in the picture...
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 08:16 AM by Ripley
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 08:29 AM
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10. Where are you going with this?
Can you be anymore cryptic?
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 08:32 AM
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11. Huh?
I'm honestly not trying to be cryptic. You asked who "they" were in my post above. I said "they" were I assume supporters of the website that is written on their phallic balloon they are holding (the one that is made of two white balloons). I gave you a link to that site to show what it looks like.

What is so cryptic about that?
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 08:36 AM
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12. well for starters ..
You gave the website of the shrub. I think it was a given that "they" support the shrub.

My entire post centered on who "they" were and if "they" had a connection to the far right fruit cakes. I don't see how that is so hard to miss!

Now do you see how cryptic you were?
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 08:38 AM
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13. Okay.
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 08:40 AM by Ripley
I didn't realize the Stupidhead has such a stupid website, I thought it was just the cross-holders freaky site.

Anyway, I don't know what your not getting.
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 08:41 AM
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14. That site is paid for by Bush/Cheney!
get it! Fucktards in this world!
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 08:42 AM
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15. Are you calling me a Fucktard?
I really think that is unneccessary since you are purposely being obtuse and trying to make my original post to be about more than it is.
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 08:01 AM
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3. Why are they using condoms to make crosses?
That is my question...
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 08:04 AM
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5. I thought they were missiles at first.
Either way, weirdly phallic.
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 04:15 PM
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33. They're suppositories n/t
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 08:03 AM
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4. I think that flag has been around a while
I remember it as a kid from when I was a United Methodist back in the '70s.
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 08:12 AM
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7. It has been around a while BUT
More or less recently it has becoming very popular to display it or so said a thread here at DU on the subject!
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 08:27 AM
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9. Probably one of the reasons I'm no longer a United Methodist
:evilfrown:
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 09:01 AM
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19. I don't blame you deutsey!
It's as if this flag is being used as a some kind of modern day swastika. At least that is how I take it!
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 02:14 PM
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24. cross as replacement for swasticka?
If it is I would think they are trying to find a way to signel that they are a group without setting off alarms among those who oppose hate groups.
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 03:54 PM
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29. It seems more of a case ....
were they would like minded believers to start using such flags and for those that wont, well that will show who is with them and who is against them.

There was post here at DU a couple weeks ago that went into this new Christian flag hanging thing.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 08:50 AM
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17. can anyone guess what the text under the cross on the shirts say?
?
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 11:34 PM
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40. Still hoping someone can id the text on the t-shirts
so the group itself can be tracked down.....
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NervousRex Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 08:51 AM
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18. I don't know if there is a connection, but...
Some point should be made that skinhead/white power types are showing up at invitation-only Bush "Nuremberg" Rallies. The tattoo on the Charles Manson Jr. wannabe appears to be the most widely known white-power symbol this side of the swastika, according to adl.org. It would be a coup to ID this freak and find out which group he belongs to...then shout it from the rooftops.
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 09:04 AM
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20. can you post a link
on this tattoo you know about. from the pic I can't make it out too well. Thanks

btw, I agree! If these skinheads regularly appear at shrubs gathering something has to be said in a big way!:toast:
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NervousRex Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 09:18 AM
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22. Here ya go...
It's a Celtic cross or Odin's Cross, but somehow I doubt this psychopath is merely demonstrating his Irish-pride.



http://adl.org/hate_symbols/racist_celtic_cross.asp
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 09:35 AM
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23. That's it! Many Thanks Nervousrex!
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 09:35 AM by AmerDem
Here is some info from the site;

This is one of the most popular symbols for neo-Nazis and white supremacists. First popularized by the Ku Klux Klan, the symbol was later adopted by the National Front in England and other racists such as Don Black on his Web site, Stormfront, and the racist band Skrewdriver to represent international "white pride." It is also known as Odin’s Cross. It is important to note that the Celtic Cross is used widely today in many mainstream and cultural contexts. No one should assume that a Celtic Cross, divorced from other trappings of extremism, automatically denotes use as a hate symbo




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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 02:55 PM
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25. Caption: "How can we keep these vinyl thunderstick-crosses LIT?"
A new challenge for for *-loving fundie radicals.

BTW, there is white text under those red t-shirt symbols.

Where was this rally staged?
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 03:57 PM
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30. Minnesota
and from what I understand, Minnesota is home of the second largest neo nazi group in the country. I was kind of shocked by that, I figured that title would have been out of the south.
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NervousRex Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 04:04 PM
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32. You've got it.
Being a resident of this state, I wanna ID this jaggoff, and spread the word that invite-only Bush events are attended by Neo-Nazis.
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 03:13 PM
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26. They sure look like skinheads to me
and it certainly makes sense, since Repukes are racist.
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 03:47 PM
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28. they are skinheads!
The tattoo on the nitwits arm shows that to be the case. I'm sure the turnout of skinheads in south for shrub are alot higher!
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 03:22 PM
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27. I hope those balloons are filled with helium.
Because if it's hydrogen those people are going to get hurt when they try to burn them.
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Baja Margie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 04:01 PM
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31. I have this really
radical neighbor who says we should shoot them first, before they shoot us. Hmmmmm......
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 04:23 PM
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34. Connections to THESE images




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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 04:41 PM
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35. one and the same!
4 more years of this fascist fuck and you will see those same picture but with more familiar faces.
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NervousRex Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 04:49 PM
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36. and this one....
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:11 PM
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39. Who are they supposed to be?
GOD's pigfuckers? I hope each and every one of those evil fucks are burning in the hell they have created!
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 04:57 PM
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37. Are those crosses made out of prestologs?
They look like those long-burning kind.
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