Does hypocracy require both sides to be wrong?

[Goldom]

Poll question: Does hypocracy require both sides to be wrong?

That's not really what I mean, but I can't word a title better. Here's what I mean. This isn't the best example, because obviously we are biased here on this issue, but consider this:

In 2000, Gore won the popular vote, and lost the electoral vote (regardless of fairness, the result was he did). No way I think this will happen, but imagine what it would be like if Kerry won the electoral vote and lost the popular vote. The Republicans would be calling our side hypocrites for being okay with this, while complaining when it happened the other way. And we would call them hypocrites for the exact opposite. How, really, would either side be any more hypocritical than the other?

However, I can see situations in which this is not the case, because their calls of hypocracy are senseless. For example, they say that if we are for lowering the amount legal to spend on campaigning, that we should start by doing it ourselves. Obviously, if we did that, they would not, and we would lose, meaning no such law could ever be passed. I wouldn't call that hypocracy on our part, it's simply following the current law so that we can get to be able to change it.

However, in some situations, regardless of which side I think is right, I can't see that either is any less hypocritical.

[Liberal Veteran]

1. I'm sorry, but I have to issue you a spelling citation.

hypocrISy not hypocracy.

I'll let you off with a warning this time.

Tee-hee....

[DUreader]

2. Gore did not really lose the electoral college vote

The supreme court fucked this country over

[GiovanniC]

3. My Problem Wasn't With the Electoral College

My problem was that through lying, cheating, stealing, fraud, disenfranchisement and propoganda, Florida got called for Bush when he didn't actually get the most votes there. Recounts show that Gore won Florida. He should have gotten Florida's electoral votes. In that case, he would have won the electoral college.

There is no hypocrisy in that position.

[Goldom]

4. I knew I shouldn't have used that example.

But there's plenty of others that could fairly show the same thing. Vote count aside, the fact is that Florida will show up red in the history books, asterisk or not. But that really wasn't what this thread was supposed to be about.

[onebigbadwulf]

5. I think the electoral college should be abolished

so stuff like this doesnt happen.

But yeah, we'd be hypocrites for complaining in that situation.

[Goldom]

6. I think I've answered my own question in the negative,

but I thought of a better example:

Hypocrisy:
Pro-War people being "Pro-Life"

The death penalty being legal punishment for murderers. (Fairness is debateable, but you can't deny it's hypocritical)

Two-way Hypocrisy:
A fairly convicted murderer calling the death penalty cruel&unusual.

[Selwynn]

7. Gore didn't lost the electoral vote - I know you want to get past that...

..to your real question, but I just can't.

This is not some kind of cathartic thing we say - it has actual meaning. Gore won Florida in a fair and honest election. 2000 was election fraud, and we need to never "get over it" or it will happen again.

If I sound a little more charged up on this subject than I used to be - well, I wrote a post about that last night.