RatOutAChurch.org <------Let's hammer them DU!!!

[dubyaD40web]

I can't believe these fools! They deserve to be DU'd!!!


""Radical Left-Wing Politics in the Pulpit"


http://www.ratoutachurch.org/

[DebinTx]

1. Maybe we should send them this and remind them

of the saying about people in glass houses....

Aug. 19, 2004, 8:35PM

Pentagon: Officer's remarks broke rules
Church speeches on antiterror war drew publicity
By ROBERT BURNS
Associated Press

WASHINGTON - A Pentagon investigation has concluded that a senior military intelligence officer violated regulations by failing to make clear he was not speaking in an official capacity when he made church speeches casting the war on terrorism in religious terms, a senior defense official said Thursday.

In most instances the officer, Lt. Gen. William Boykin, was wearing his Army uniform.

The investigation by the Defense Department's deputy inspector general also found that Boykin, the deputy undersecretary of defense for intelligence, violated Pentagon rules by failing to obtain advance clearance for his remarks, which gained wide publicity last fall.

In one appearance, Boykin told a religious group in Oregon that Islamic extremists hate the United States "because we're a Christian nation, because our foundation and our roots are Judeo-Christians. ... And the enemy is a guy named Satan," according to news reports last fall.

Discussing a U.S. Army battle against a Muslim warlord in Somalia in 1993, Boykin told one audience, "I knew my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol."

The Boykin investigation report has not been publicly released. Its findings were described Thursday by a senior defense official who is familiar with its conclusions. The official spoke only on condition of anonymity because the report has not yet been acted upon by acting Army Secretary Les Brownlee.

The report said that in considering possible action against Boykin, the Army should take into account that Boykin had asked military lawyers in advance about the propriety of making the speeches and was not advised against speaking.

Islamic and religious freedom groups, as well as some members of Congress, criticized Boykin when news reports surfaced last October of remarks he made in several speeches at evangelical Christian churches. Boykin said the enemy in the terrorism fight was Satan and that God had put President Bush in the White House.

The Washington Post, which first reported the conclusion of the inspector general's investigation in its Thursday editions, said the probe determined that Boykin discussed his involvement in the war on terrorism at 23 religious-oriented events since 2002 and that he wore his uniform while speaking at all but two. He spoke mostly at Baptist or Pentecostal churches.

[dubyaD40web]

3. Good idea.....

And how about dueling quotes:


"God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn’t do my job.”
--George W. Bush, July 16, 2004

"Beware of false prophets that come to you in sheep’s clothing,
but inwardly they are ravening wolves."
--Jesus of Nazareth (Matthew, 7:15)

[AspenRose]

14. Here's something else

"Evangelical Christianity has been hijacked: An interview with Tony Campolo"

Evangelical leader, sociology professor, and Baptist minister Tony Campolo made headlines in the 1990s when he agreed to be a spiritual counselor to President Bill Clinton. A self-described Bible-believing Christian, he has drawn fire from his fellow evangelicals for his stance on contemporary issues like homosexuality. He talked with Beliefnet recently about his new book, "Speaking My Mind."

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/150/story_15052_1.html

[AngryOldDem]

2. Thanks

...the site just gave me another reason to vote my representative out of office this fall.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

4. Is this that Landmark Legal Foundation...

Thing that Mark Levin was braying about the other night?

What a slug, Levin. Just a slug.

[sam sarrha]

5. i hope a big rat bites them in the ass over this...

[Classical_Liberal]

6. Since their are vastly more religious right churches why don't

we use rat out a church to report them.

[Trav78]

7. I might get flamed for this but...

I am wondering if we have any room to talk about this if our side is only talking about the churches that support fundie candidates. Don't they have as much of a right to free speech as we do?

[Classical_Liberal]

8. Aparently more since more of those churches are political.

. Just as soon as the left gets political they want to rat. Anyway PFAW have criticized Jackson, during the 84 election.

[Trav78]

9. Aren't you afraid

that if we start raising a ruckus about them that they will start coming after us for having great people like Jesse Jackson and John Kerry coming to speak at the churches with people that are more enlightened.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

10. If they endorse a political candidate, they must pay taxes.

It's the law.

[dubyaD40web]

12. B-I-N-G-O

[Classical_Liberal]

11. I don't think the left gets as much pull from the churches anyway

so no, not really. Alot of moderate churches are apolitical, and lefty churches are of radical antiglobalization type politics, and don't endorce candidates.

[Lisa]

13. depends where ...

In Canada, the United Church is the biggest Protestant denomination, and they are very strong on social justice issues. Hardly "radical antiglobalization" types -- elderly ladies etc., not exactly the stereotypical dyed hair and body piercings crowd. Lots of people in the congregations support the Liberals and NDP, and in fact the UC is credited with putting so much pressure on the government during the Vietnam war that the feds caved in and allowed entry to American draft dodgers.

[Joanne98]

15. NO

[Viking12]

16. "Big Brother Church Watch"

Jebus, these motherfuckers don't even try to hide the totalitarian intents anymore. :WTF: