I really wish Bob Dole would get his facts straight....and STFU.

[TryingToWarnYou]

Just heard him on Wolf Blitzer commenting on Kerry and his medals and saying that Kerry "didnt spend one day in the hospital". Well, Bob, heres a couple of things to chew on when you arent eating Viagra:

The reports of the conflicts in question all have Kerry being removed from the battlefield and taken offshore to USCGC ships where he was treated. Thats quite a bit of trouble for minor wounds when there are medics on the ground that could have treated Kerry and the little scratches you think were the extent of Kerrys injuries. Prick.

I also heard him comment on the fact that Kerry was only there for 4 months. Well, Bob, I guess you found Kerry out. By golly, he planned on getting shot up 3 different times just so he could come home early. Why, I bet he even requested the duty in Vietnam on Swiftboats just so he could make that happen faster. I hope nobody is missing the sarcasm here.

Of course, Blitzer acted like he was playing hardball with Dole by commenting on remarks made by another Democrat regarding Cheney, to which Dole commented that the Democrat in question was saying he was a Viet Nam vet. I dont remember the persons name..I was too pissed off at the BS.

[still_one]

1. Very well put

[Pirate Smile]

2. It was Tom Harkin, Senator from Iowa, that called Cheney a coward.

[jdj]

4. Yes, it's sad that by following the neocons and radical right

the mainstream repukes have done the thing they never want to do, which is to start the awakening of the uninterested zombie public.

[TryingToWarnYou]

12. Right thats him... Dole stated he wasnt in Viet Nam but Japan.

Is that true? I know the difference between service in the military "during" the VN conflict and actually being "in" VN.

Which one did Harkin do?

[jdj]

3. Viagra sure didn't make Bob a man.

He's more of whore than he's ever been. If I had any extra cash to spare, I'd send his wife Slimator Esleazeabeth Dole a muzzle, she is rabid with immorality and lack of character.

[vickie]

8. It was interesting that he said he thought Kerry was ahead in the

presidential race. I think the quote was "Kerry has the edge" for now. After he said that, I turned off the tv.

[vickie]

10. It was interesting that he said he thought Kerry was ahead in the

presidential race. I think the quote was "Kerry has the edge" for now. After he said that, I turned off the tv.

[GreenGreenLimaBean]

5. FUCK bob dole!!

He just opened the door to questioning his purple hearts! This fucking hack thugs just don't give a shit who they smear. And fucking wolf-boy just sat there and let him spew his lies without any challenge to the FACTS!

[TryingToWarnYou]

21. Just did a check on Bob Dole and his two purple hearts...

From the Bob Dole website it sounds as if he got one for being wounded in battle and the the other for enduring a blood clot in the hospital beause it was "life threatening".

Then, he was transferred to Percy Jones Army Medical Center in Michigan, where he survived his second brush with death -- blood clotting.

[Ravy]

28. His first PH was from a self-inflicted wound.

<snip>

"Dole's first wound. It was in the first of these night patrols that Dole received the wound for which he was awarded his first Purple Heart. He ruefully confesses in his 1988 autobiography that his wound was self-inflicted: "As we approached the enemy, there was a brief exchange of gunfire. I took a grenade in hand, pulled the pin, and tossed it in the direction of the farmhouse. It wasn't a very good pitch (remember, I was used to catching passes, not throwing them). In the darkness, the grenade must have struck a tree and bounced off. It exploded nearby, sending a sliver of metal into my leg -- the sort of injury the Army patched up with Mercurochrome and a Purple Heart." The wound was so minor that he led another patrol two nights later. He does not mention that others were also injured by his misguided throw -- which Woodruff's account attributes to an enemy machine gun."

http://www.tedellis.net/dole-article.htm

I am not questioning Dole's service. But for HIM to question Kerry's PH is the height of hypocricy.

[Yupster]

29. Accidental wounding yourself

is not a self inflicted wound.

A self inflicted wound assumes you intended to do it.

People have been saying the same thing bout Kerry and it's BS.

If a bullett from his own gun richocheted off something and hit him, that is not a self-inflicted wound.

Unfortunately in battle situations, many soldiers get wounded and killed by their own weapons, or the weapons of their friendly soldiers.

Hell, Max Cleland got disabled by friendly fire. It's nothng to be ashamed of. Same thing killed Stonewall Jackson.

Link to Cleland wounding story. It's a relief to Cleland, but not to another US private.

http://www.highbeam.com/library/doc0.asp?docid=1P1%3A23374025&refid=ink_d1

[TryingToWarnYou]

30. Excellent...thanks for this. EVERYONE READ THIS LINK

Hmmm, I wonder if Wolf Blitzer would be interested in this... eh, probably not.

Sounds as if Mr. Dole has some 'splainin to do regarding his own service history.

[napi21]

23. I don't think you want to get into questioning Dole's awards.

He's not running! I don't think it's a good idea to fall for this diversion to fighting this campaign on the 'nam war, or any other than the one in Iraq. Watch out folks, the Pubs are trying to make everything concentrated on anything else but the US economy, jobs, health care, outsourcing, etc.

Don't fall for it!

Kerry has to fight back, and he seems to be doing OK on that front. Even some of the media has started to question the SBV's and whay we are arguing this now?

Stay focused on 2004 and why should people ever want to give shrub another chance when he has failed in the first one.

[TryingToWarnYou]

31. Horsecrap... He sat there and lied about Kerry. He's fair game.

http://www.tedellis.net/dole-article.htm

Read the whole article. Fuck Dole. It seems to me that he is a hypocrite of the highest order. I should have expected as much.

[Ravy]

6. Not to mention it was his SECOND TOUR in theater...

The assholes are saying the 4 months so often that the pundits aren't even correcting it anymore.

Earlier in the interview Dole said that Kerry didn't bleed at all and got three purple hearts.

Dole used to be considered a statesman by many. Now he is just a hack.

[TryingToWarnYou]

17. Youre shitting me right? He didnt say that did he?

He should be ashamed of himself if so. I guess Kerry willed that piece of shrapnel into his leg then...

[Pirate Smile]

7. Here is what Harkin said:

http://www.wcfcourier.com/articles/2004/08/14/news/breaking_news/0dff4c5470efba8a86256ef00074d537.txt

Harkin also shot back at Cheney, who said in a visit to Iowa on Tuesday that presidential candidate John Kerry lacks a basic understanding of the war on terrorism and cannot make America safer.

He noted that Cheney had several student deferments that allowed him to skip serving in Vietnam.

"When I hear this coming from Dick Cheney, who was a coward, who would not serve during the Vietnam War, it makes my blood boil," Harkin said. "Those of us who served and those of us who went in the military don't like it when someone like a Dick Cheney comes out and he wants to be tough. Yeah, he'll be tough. He'll be tough with somebody else's blood, somebody else's kids. But not when it was his turn to go."

[still_one]

9. What is amazing it is the pugs who are trashing vets

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

11. Didn't Clinton and Dole have a largely smear free campaign? I guess

the Republicans don't win when that happens...

[loftycity]

13. Dole has his facts straight and it is Not to tell the truth (ever)...nt

[KC21304]

14. I think he is getting a little senile from too much viagra.

He also said Kerry got 2 Purple Hearts in one day. He just repeated the Swiftliars claims as fact. Some times he knew he was going over the line and then he would try to smooth it over.

[TryingToWarnYou]

18. Oh man..I must have been pissed.. I missed this lie completely!

What a jackass.

[murray hill farm]

15. Why doesn't Dole just come out and say what he means.

His stand actually is that he does not believe that a soldier should be awarded a purple heart unless he is disabled by the wound received. His stand and his argument should be directed to the military...and the process and procedure and eligibility for receiving a purple heart award. Lets hear him say it..."I think that we should no longer give out the purple heart award except when there is a resulting serious and disabling wound"...Oh yeah...guess that wouldn't be a good thing to come right out and say...all those injuries in Iraq...might actually show Dole up for the dolt that he is.

[0007]

16. What a looser!

But in reality who pays any attenion to that dried up hardon?

[barb162]

20. Dole may be a dryball

but I think a lot of people like him. He's one of the old warhorses of the GOP, fairly popular still and a wounded vet. I only wish Blitzer would have asked Dole what he thought of Mr. Awol's great, daring and courageous service to the country during the Vietnam war and how many times he put his life on the line in Alabama. Of course I also want interviewers to ask O'Neil the same question but they never quite do that.

[Fenris]

19. That walking chemically-induced hard-on needs to shut his pie hole.

A Vet being attacked by...a Vet. Real classy, Bob. I think we should start screaming that Bob Dole's paralyzed hand is fake! That's right! He's just holding that pen for sympathy!

[kerry-is-my-prez]

22. Did he say again that Teresa should be "muzzled"?

n/t

[benddem]

24. I keep trying to get this out

please counteract attacks against Kerry not being hospitalized for his wounds.
1/2 of all the purple hearts awarded in Vietnam didn't require hospitalization. http://www.a101avn.org/VIETNAMWARRIORS.htm

[Pirate Smile]

27. That is good to know.

[EST]

25. As a fairly long term observer of Mr. Dole,

I can say that, a few years ago, he would actually look distinctly uncomfortable while spouting crap that was obviously deliberately misleading. Today, he definately looks a bit smoother.

[Cat Atomic]

26. Dole is a party loyalist to the core. What do you expect?

He's one of the paleocons, and the neocons disregard them completely. But when the chips are down, Bob can be counted on to check his decency at the door and toe the Republican party line.