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I play in a "player killing" MUD (Multi-user Dimension) that has been around since 1992:
So anyway, I came across this discussion...
Drizzt devs: shrug just because you dont find something doesnt mean it isnt there
You dev: Bob dole admitted to self-infliction.
Exodus devs: ask kerry, he's the one who said he'd still vote for the war even knowing what we know today
Quil regs: like just before each dive, she's like, they will need 7s here
Drizzt devs: they have a whole country to hide shit in
Yaz regs: laugh
Blackthorn devs: justification = read the treaty from the 1991 war with iraq then do some research on whether or not they complied with all the terms. dipshit
Quil regs: right after the diver has entered the water: nope, that wasnt it
Blackthorn devs: there's the justification son
Yaz regs: nod
Quil regs: laugh
Quil regs: shes a fucking cunt
Drizzt devs: looks like a gg to me
Exodus devs: leftists have semi-successfully attempted to redefine the justification for the war as being singularly about WMD, when that was only one of many justifications.
Quinn devs: problem is u can't tell that to the public with the intelligence of a 6 year old
Fish devs: wasn't it Aaron Anderson: Arrogance Justified ?
Exodus devs: btw nog bt, that is the best answer to the question
Exodus devs: i use it often
Blackthorn devs: laugh
Quinn devs: ffear semi-successfully
Exodus devs: well when you repeat a lie enough times people start to believe it
Blackthorn devs: kinda like kerry's vietnam exploits
Exodus devs: laf
Quinn devs: noone believes that shit
Quil devs: or tying saddam w/ AQ
Quinn devs: a lot of people believe that
Yaz devs: well if the american people believe by and large we're going to war because they have wmds or are trying to get wmds, it doesn't matter as much if the real reason is a whole bunch of different things
Yaz devs: and americans definitely thought wmd was the gist of it
Exodus devs: fear, i thought al zarquawi (sp) has pretty much proven there was an al quaeda connection in pre-war iraq
Quinn devs: that's true
Quinn devs: bush didnt do much to quell that rationale either
Fish devs: i'll tell you what, we should have went to war on the monkeyman. now that creature was a true terror, right quil ?
Quinn devs: he got on tv and talked about 2 billion tons of anthrax
Blackthorn devs: laugh
Quinn devs: not about subclauses of treaty A
Blackthorn devs: well, that's cause everyone knew/thought it was there
Exodus devs: btw even if saddam didn't have any WMDs (and you're a fool if you believe that), he still had the capability to manufacture them within weeks
Blackthorn devs: there wasn't really any disagreement
Yaz devs: fear exodus you're in the huge minority in that belief
Quinn devs: nog to hit israel with em
Exodus devs: that's a fact
Iahova devs: so do a lot of countries, we dont just GG them
Quinn devs: i don't think he coulda hit the US though
Iahova devs: (i am pro-war btw)
Exodus devs: whether or not a majority of people believe it is
semi-irrelevant
Yaz devs: it's entirely relevant
Drizzt devs: fear
Ladyfinger devs: the problem is very dumb people who don't really follow news thought we were going to iraq because they thought the government believed he was somehow involved in 9-11. of course, the bigger problem is there are TOO MANY STUPID, IGNORANT PEOPLE
Yaz devs: we're about to elect a president
Yaz devs: laugh
Drizzt devs: so Truth is defined by how many people believe something?
Yaz devs: no.
Exodus devs: irrelevant to this discussion i mean
Blackthorn devs: ffear, U.S. weapons inspector was on CNN yesterday on wol blitzer's show saying just that, re: yes they had massive capacity to produce WMD anytime. but I guess yaz's "silent majority" knows more than the weapons inspectors
Pantera devs: the majority of the people barely vote, who cares if they don't have a clue with what is going on
Exodus devs: nog bt, this is a given
Yaz devs: laugh silent majority. you people are absolutely daft if you think the majority of americans don't believe we were badly mistaken about the wmd.
Quinn devs: hrmm i wonder what capacity and what wmd
Exodus devs: not disputable, everyone i've seen speak to the matter has acknowledged it
Exodus devs: bio weapons mainly
Yaz devs: whether they had em or not, whether they can make em in a day or not
Iahova devs: ho does one barely vote? like stumble in and use every last biit of strenggth to pull the curtain back?
Quinn devs: it's hard for a modern industrialized nation not to have the 'capacity' to produce some pimpin shit
Quinn devs: i'm sure japan could crank up some massive nukes right now if it wanted
Quinn devs: get out the thought police
Exodus devs: iraq was forbidden by the terms of the cease fire to maintain such a capacity
Blackthorn devs: uh fear the point is everyone thought they had them so how is it relevant if they didn't
Exodus devs: plus they had the will and history of using them
Yaz devs: fear the un inspectors did?
Exodus devs: fear yes
Blackthorn devs: yes, at least the ones from the u.s.
Exodus devs: even that shill hans blix did and if memory serves, still does
Blackthorn devs: nog hans blix, seen many interviews with him, and he thought they were hiding them from him at the time
Iahova devs: nog
Iahova devs: this is true
Yaz devs: well it's relevant either way if it's mistaken, since people would attribute a mistake to the current admin since they're the ones who went to war laugh
Drizzt devs: well laf, when your inspectors get the boot repeatedly for no good reason
Iahova devs: he has said such things
Drizzt devs: what other reason is there to boot inspectors
Drizzt devs: give you time to hide more shit..gg
Exodus devs: most "experts" i've seen think what WMD iraq did have were moved to syria
Iahova devs: lets invade syria please
Iahova devs: i mean lliberate
Blackthorn devs: bog kerry voted for the war on those grounds, and clinton thought they had them too
Exodus devs: but we're just playing into the leftist game by discussing this. the war was not about WMD, it had far broader implications and justifications
Blackthorn devs: basically anyone with any power or credentials in the area thought it
Blackthorn devs: so not sure what your point is, should we have not undertaken the operation because there were some freaks sitting around saying they didn't?
Iahova devs: fact is we removed an incredibly dangerous and malintentioned man from ruling a nation with an iron fist. sounds like a good move to me.
Enadiz devs: kerry sucks
Drizzt devs: truth
Enadiz devs: that's all i have to say
Enadiz devs: g'day
Ladyfinger devs: why is there the word 'leftIST' ? i mean left and right are already adjectives, nounds AND adverbs. and you don't hear people saying 'rightist'
Quinn devs: fear
Iahova devs: laugh
Drizzt devs: good pt
Blackthorn devs: arguing against that war on the "there are no WMD" grounds makes no sense at all, only an idiot would argue it after thinking over all the facts. however, you could, and I might argue that countries should be allowed to have WMD, after all, the top producer of WMD's in the world is us, so it's all hypocrisy
Yaz devs: fear if you're talking to me, my point was that the american people thought wmds were the reason for the war, we went in and now the american people think we were mistaken about the wmds. so. gg in nov.
Iahova devs: "so." is not a sentence!
Drizzt devs: so yaz' whole pt is bush will lose due to no wmds?
Yaz devs: no
Fish devs: so
Yaz devs: it's part of it though.
Quinn devs: shrug if iraq posed a real threat to the US with the wmd sure
Iahova devs: only "good" countries can have them blackthorn
Quinn devs: seemsl ike they were just all about using it on iran and israel though
Blackthorn devs: laf, nog
Blackthorn devs: well, israel has them tho
Blackthorn devs: and they're evil
Blackthorn devs: and china
Quinn devs: did iraq invade the us or something
Iahova devs: fear putting china and israel together
Quinn devs: i think they gg'd kuwait iran and israel
Fish devs: ever see red dawn???? it could happen!
Blackthorn devs: it's more like a good old boys club where some of the club doesn't actually like each other but they're still united to gg all the little Upstarts
Quinn devs: 3 countries i don't give a shit about nor do i want to risk my life over
Kegger devs: were there any hot chicks in red dawn.
Blackthorn devs: well israel is more evil than china
Iahova devs: laugh
Kegger devs: i don't think i've ever seen that movie.
Blackthorn devs: china isn't shooting rockets at civilians in wheelchairs, or if they are, their State News Agency is sure keeping a lid on it
Fish devs: for shame
Iahova devs: israel is this little island of people in the sea of islam who all want that island destroyed. i'd be semi-evil to my neighbors too
Kegger devs: i just remember something about some guy pissing in the radiator.
Quinn devs: who is more dangerous to the US an iron fisted ruler or some rogue terrorist cult leader
Kegger devs: or something.
Blackthorn devs: bog neighbors, they gg people who live in their own "occupied territory", without even a trial or charges
Iahova devs: well yeah i am anti occupation
Iahova devs: but nog
Quinn devs: china is pretty brutal
Blackthorn devs: and that's just the beginning, then we can move on to the war crimes they commit against their neighbors
Quil devs: bt, did you order the buchanhan book?
Blackthorn devs: n
Enadiz devs: why dont we just take over the world
Quinn devs: but u got 1.2 billion uncivilized chinamen
Quinn devs: u gotta be a bit tough
Iahova devs: china is loaded with people who perform CHINESE WATER TORTURE
Blackthorn devs: well china is scarier because they have over 1B enemies of ours, but israel is definitely more concentrated with evildoers
Kegger devs: chinese watersports.
Ladyfinger devs: that's not fair. i'm sure some of those 1.2 billion are civilized
Iahova devs: drip drip drip MAKE IT STOP OH GOD
Blackthorn devs: ne'er-do-wells
Yaz devs: flaf
Iahova devs: nog the density of evil is far greater in israel
Ladyfinger devs: that's why we have WMD. to even out the numbers if we need to
Exodus devs: laf the israeli strikes on the hamas leaders were pretty amusing tstl
Iahova devs: israel would sink in the waters of pure and goodness
Exodus devs: flaf the helicopter gunship blowing away that guy on a
motorcycle with a rocket
Blackthorn devs: israel probably has the highest density of pure evil in the world judging by the acts their govt commits and the popular support of said acts
Exodus devs: sounds like a video game, or a chuck norris movie
Ladyfinger devs: exodus stands behind the zionist agenda
Quinn devs: laugh some of those sudanese guys are pretty bad people
Exodus devs: their agenda? you mean existence? nog
Quinn devs: israel is the most evil civilized country though
Iahova devs: israel is constantly in a state of war shrug. defending themselves from the unknown masses of radical islam
Exodus devs: it's not like they are trying to conquer the middle east
Blackthorn devs: state of war my ass
Iahova devs: they are
Blackthorn devs: no one's at war with them, they just have civilians committing crimes there
Iahova devs: they get suicide bombed daily
Exodus devs: syria still is i think
Quil devs: and iran
Blackthorn devs: laugh yeah syria troops are fos on israel, I'm sure
Quil devs: laugh
Quil devs: iran doesnt recognize israel
Exodus devs: i think there are a few countries who never signed a ceasefire
Quinn devs: laf nog if israel had negros they'd all be have genocided em by now
Quil devs: so perhaps they cant be at war w/ them
Blackthorn devs: yeah and iran isn't at war with israel since they refuse to recognize their existence, they are at war with the "Zionist enemy"
Kegger devs: nog the iranian judo dude wouldn't compete vs. the israel dude
(and off the point..)
So, how can I counter this argument with what most of those dum-dums have said?
Hawkeye-X
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