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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:17 PM
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My God Dole DOLE EXPOSED THE ROVE TALKING POINT HOTLINE
Edited on Mon Aug-23-04 04:30 PM by mtnester
for republicans before they go on any show to be briefed..Spoke about it on Blitzer....

On edit changed the headline as MallRat later in the thread said it better than I did
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:19 PM
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1. Whaaaa? You get a refresher course before you go out on camera?
Rove gets to tell you that your wife and children will be killed unless you lie, distort, and smear while on camera, probably.

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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:23 PM
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9. Unfortunately, that's how KKKRove
operates. :scared: Have you ever read "Fortunate Son?" If not, you should. The author's family was threatend by Bush's people when he was Governor of Texas because they didn't want the book published.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 05:24 PM
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43. I have the book but....
didn't the author end up conveniently suicided in a hotel room somewhere?
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:27 PM
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15. It's all ball bearings these days..
Now you prepare that Fetzer valve with some 3-in-1 oil and some gauze pads, and I'm gonna need 'bout ten quarts of anti-freeze, preferably Prestone. No, no make that Quaker State.

Sorry, your post title got me on a Fletch quote kick.
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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:19 PM
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2. What? Explain to us cuberats.
n/t
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:20 PM
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5. He blathered about a special number
that the Republicans want you to call before you appear...Wolfe picked up on it and called him on it...he said he did not call, and then stammered
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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:22 PM
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7. Are you telling me that DOLE EXPOSED THE ROVE TALKING POINT HOTLINE?
Holy shit...
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:25 PM
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12. Yeah, but he stammered about
like..whoops, did not mean to share that outloud..did not provide an actual number
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:26 PM
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14. I am actually going to steal your topic title
and change my headline if you do not mind...yours will probably get better reponse to this
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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:27 PM
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16. Go right ahead. Plagarize all you want. n/t
:-)
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:29 PM
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21. I did and thank you
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:44 PM
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30. Yet another confirmation of what is obvious to people who study
Totalitarianism.

Ya think Goebbels had a similar hotline for Nazis? Naaah. But only because he didn't live in a nation where it was necessary to provide an illusion of Free and Open discourse.
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desi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:41 PM
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28. Does anybody really believe that he did not call..??
After all, he does need help with his "manhood." Bob Dole has always been a bitter attack dog.
Bumper sticker on my truck in KLansas during '96 election: "Not everybody in Kansas likes Bob Dole" thanks to the Johnson County Democratic Party.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:19 PM
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3. And what did he say they told him to say???
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:20 PM
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4. Hah! What's the number?
Is it an 800 number?
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:21 PM
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6. He said it was something like a conference call type of thing where they
brief you...but he did not choose to call first himself before appearing
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:24 PM
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10. Rove must be hitting himself in the forehead.
And throwing things around the office.

Senile Bob Dole admitted on CNN that you're supposed to call a special number to get your marching orders before appearing on TV!

Hahahaha!

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:31 PM
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25. Looks like Ronny wasn't the only repuke suffering from Als....
Good Lord.... Let er rip Bobby... LOL!
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:34 PM
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26. Looks like all that Viagra went to his...err
head?
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 05:31 PM
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44. They're all dialing into what is known in the corporate world
as a "Meet Me Line". It was commonly used at my former company for meetings between the control center, programers, vendors, clients etc for projects, problems, implimentations etc. An e-mail is sent out to a group with the phone number and password and participants dial in. I think it's pretty much the same thing.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:23 PM
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8. Wonder if any of the SBVs called it before their appearances?
Edited on Mon Aug-23-04 04:23 PM by Beaverhausen
they all seemed to have one or two phrases they repeated over and over and over...
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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:25 PM
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13. maybe someone else will ask o'neill if he called it today.
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:24 PM
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11. HOLY CRAP!
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:29 PM
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20. I agree! Holy Crap!!
Collusion? How can this call number and policy group exist and the Swift Boat liars NOT be using it? This is another large piece of this obscene puzzle.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:28 PM
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17. So he needs to be asked if that's where he got these LIES:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/23/politics/campaign/23swift.html?pagewanted=2

Mr. Dole, in his CNN interview, suggested that he agreed with one of the accusations of the Swift boat group that Mr. Kerry was in a rush to obtain his Purple Hearts to meet a regulation that allowed soldiers to leave the war zone after winning three.

"John Kerry's a hero," Mr. Dole told Wolf Blitzer. "But what I will always quarrel about are the Purple Hearts. I mean, the first one, whether he ought to have a Purple Heart - he got two in one day, I think. And he was out of there in less than four months, because three Purple Hearts and you're out."

Mr. Kerry did not receive two Purple Hearts for events of the same day. He received them for the events of Dec. 2, 1968, Feb. 20, 1969, and March 13, 1969. Mr. Kerry often acknowledges that his wounds were not severe, but he still has shrapnel in his left thigh from the firefight that led to his second Purple Heart.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:28 PM
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18. This isn't terribly surprising
We know they get daily blast-faxes with talking points.

Do we have reason to believe the Democrats DON'T have a similar counterpart? They'd be stupid not to.
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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:44 PM
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31. Yes, we do....
I can attest to that. I have worked in a conferencing center and have assisted with these types of calls for local/state/federal parties/candidates, etc.

They are actually quite interesting, and not at all the evil brainwash line we all want them to be.

With personal experience in both the local/state party, as well as in the business world, it isn't uncommon to have one last "unity" type meeting before going before the press, etc. Nothing is more embarassing than a misquote or a backwards statement.

(Unless of course you are ol W, he has NO shame.)
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:47 PM
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34. Thank you Seth
I presumed we WOULD have such a tool available. This is a tempest over nothing.
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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 05:31 PM
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45. Agreed n/t
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 06:00 PM
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56. But funny because Dole embarassed himself

by talking about it.

"Oops. Bob Dole didn't mean to say that. Bob Dole is just here to tell the truth."

:evilgrin:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:56 PM
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37. unless rove hotline is how to back swift boat and tear kerry
down. i believe they said they werent a part of that
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:28 PM
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19. As Tweety would say, "HA!"
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:29 PM
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22. A while back I heard or read
that EVERY morning the Repubs have a conference call to put out Talking Points for the Day. This is then sent to FOX, Rush, & all other right wing pundits & rags like Newsmax, NY Post.

That way, everyone stays on message, & that s why you hear the same phrases over & over.

Bob Dole say they have a special number to call befor appearing on the Sunday Talk Shows. Just proves the point!
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 05:39 PM
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47. This is easy to believe
because I have noticed it on news casts that are all saying the same thing (if you go flipping the channels around).

There does NOT seem to be a Democratic equivalent - at least where all of the news casters are giving out the Democratic version of events - nor do I wish there to be.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:30 PM
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23. Swift Liars ---> Bob Dole ----> Senator Elizabeth Dole. This is
an attempt by Bob Dole to seem NOT COORDINATED with the Bush Campaign (Sen. Elizabeth Dole is a campaign advisor I think) or the Swiftboat Liars.

He's trying to say he didn't coordinate with Bush because he didn't call the secret number before appearing.

We can see through this, Bob Dole.

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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:31 PM
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24. You have reached RNC talking points. For a menu press 9...
General baseless lies, press 1

Swiftboat ass-covering, press 2

All Clinton excuses, press 3, 4, 5

What Bush really meant to say, press 6

The homosexual agenda, press 7

Economics. press 8

Press 0 for starting lies and coordination of lies with a RNC customer service advisor.
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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:34 PM
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27. LOL!
You have the start of a classic DU column right there, my friend. Work on it.
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:45 PM
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32. LOL... n/t
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:46 PM
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33. LOL
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:50 PM
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35. Excellent! Great imagination, my friend.
Yep, you need to develop this into a full-blown article.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:51 PM
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36. I heard it also! I wonder if it will replay in its entirety
later in the middle of the night? But I was absolutely floored when I heard Dole bungle this and mention it.
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 04:42 PM
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29. you can tell they do because they all say the same thing over & over.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 05:12 PM
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38. Yeah but we didnt know about a prerecorded # for the robots.










ai yi yi, chihuahua, this lil yappy doggy follows me wher'er I go.
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 05:12 PM
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39. Is there a transcript of what Dole said?
I need a transcript fast.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 05:19 PM
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40. It isn't up on the CNN web site yet.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 05:21 PM
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41. WTF!!!!!!!! Big KICK.......nt
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 05:23 PM
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42. yup I caught that too, when dole was on the phone with wolf..
my eyebrow was raised for sure...
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 05:38 PM
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46. Is there a transcript?? This could PROVE a coordinated campaign!!
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 05:40 PM
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49. Not on CNN site yet
Edited on Mon Aug-23-04 05:40 PM by mtnester
as of 1839 hours Eastern time
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 05:39 PM
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48. The media won't do anythng with this. I remember when O'Reilly
Edited on Mon Aug-23-04 05:42 PM by Cat Atomic
admitted on his radio show that all the right wing radio hosts get a daily fax from the RNC. He said they all get a list of daily talking points; what the issues are and what they're supposed to think about these issues.

Of course, O'Reilly did it in a self-aggrandizing way. He only pointed the daily fax out so that he could insist that he does not stick to it, unlike the others. The fool was trying to prove how independant he is by saying he ignores the daily orders from HQ.

*EDIT*

Oh wait- now I see what you guys are getting at. That if Dole was citing the Swift Boat Vets for Truth talking points, that would suggest a coordinated and illegal relationship between the Bush campaign and the SBVfT. That is interesting, when you think of it that way.

I'm a little slow today. :p

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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 05:42 PM
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50. Maybe Lettermen
since he was victim of this kind if tactic before (at the hands of CNN no less if I am not mistaken)
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 05:42 PM
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51. But don't forget that Kerry has an FEC suit against Bushco...
...and if the Smearboat Vermin were discussed, it could prove the "coordinated campaign" part of the suit. Woo-hoo!!


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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 05:43 PM
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52. That's a very good point.
I'm a little slow today. :p
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 05:46 PM
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53.  That's it, RNC is coordinating with the Swift Boat liars. (eom)
Edited on Mon Aug-23-04 05:46 PM by oasis
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Keirsey Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 05:52 PM
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54. Fortunate Son
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 05:52 PM
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55. proof pukes don't think for themselves
:think:
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