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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 05:27 PM
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The violence of conservatism....a libertarian critique?
I came across a link to thi at another site:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/tucker/tucker46.html

In our times, the meaning of conservatism is violence. It means violence against foreigners and violence against political dissidents. It means celebrating violence as the right and proper method of government policy. It means soundly rejecting the views of those who doubt the merit of violence as the omnipotent tool of domestic and international order.

Just look at the books, if you can stand it. They are everywhere at the bookstores. Read them and get on the side of the state and its killing machine before the state sides against you. In these tracts we discover that to be conservative is to sit up and face the bloodshed with the courage to celebrate it.

Indeed, the very meaning of conservatism is to reject all that smarmy liberal stuff about human rights and peace and face the productive power of war and conflict. True morality is embedded in the cold hard steel of tanks, bombers, and prison bars. Government by Democrats should be limited but government by Republicans should be expensive, global, militarized, unchallenged, omnipresent, and if you don't like it, what have you got to hide?


woah...the writer here is all but calling modern conservatives facsists.
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cosmicvortex20 Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 07:12 PM
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1. Makes sense, contrary to most the opinions here...
Edited on Mon Aug-23-04 07:13 PM by cosmicvortex20
libertarianism is not conservatism or liberalism.

very interesting site you posted there too. Got lots of articles to peek at.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 07:22 PM
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2. They are NeoCONs, not conservatives
A small-c conservative, believes the maxim, "he who governs least
governs best." This immediately distinguishes our Neocon criminals
as nothing of the sort. They are big government prison state
fascists.

Sadly, the word conservative is being abused as badly as the word
liberal these days. A true conservative would not waste a single
tax dollar to limit social liberties, to wage war without absolute
need, or to give welfare payments to corporate slush funders of their
campaigns. These neocriminals are the very antithesis of
conservative.

That more "conservatives" have not chirped up to notice shows
how poorly educated the lot of them are.
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leftyandproud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 08:05 PM
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3. Libertarians nail it again..
too bad they are hated by both sides...It keeps these opinions from getting heard more often.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:19 AM
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4. Libertarians are outside one dimensional Republicrat / Demopublican axis
Libertarians are outside the one dimensional Republicrat / Demopublican axis so they can nail it. It is so ridiculous to squeeze the complexity of modern life to a red versus blue false dichotomy.
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