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HerbieHeadhunter Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 07:49 PM
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O'Reilly: "I chose not to go to Vietnam b/c I felt I could....
better serve the country teaching school..."

No shit. I just heard him say that in trying to explain Cheney's five deferments in a segment about Harkin calling Cheney a fucking coward (expletive mine).
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 07:51 PM
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1. O'Lielly is a pathological liar.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 07:52 PM
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2. O'Really Was A Teacher - God Forbid
What a horrifing experience that must have been for students and teachers.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 07:59 PM
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5. "Now, the first thing you kids are gonna learn in MY classroom is that
if you don't volunteer for Swift Boat duty in 'Nam you're a fucking coward and I've got no use for you!" - Bill O'Leilly, teacher extraordinaire
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Sparky McGruff Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 04:00 AM
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33. SHUT UP! SHUT UP!
Maybe that's where he learned that one...

SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 07:52 PM
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3. O'Really Was A Teacher - God Forbid
What a horrifing experience that must have been for students and teachers.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:03 PM
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20. O'Reilly taught at Monsignor Pace High School...
...in Northwest Miami-Dade County. My cousin went to school at Pace the same time O'Reilly was teaching there and he says he can't remember a fucking thing about him. This was at a small school where most of the staff and students were pretty close. The guy was utterly unremarkable as a teacher.
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My Pet Goat Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 07:58 PM
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4. That's rich...
do the freeps even believe that?
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 07:59 PM
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6. Other priorities. Anyone else down with that?
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 08:00 PM
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7. why did he get to "choose?"
I thought the concept of the draft was that they choose.

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Racenut20 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 08:02 PM
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8. I was wondering what perverted our youth in the 60's
And Asswipe was a college history teacher, fresh out of his Libertarian Law School in Chicago.
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CanIgonow Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 08:07 PM
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9. O'Reilly also said that he decided that he would wait for 40 years
and volunteer for duty in Iraq when our country's need for his services would be more critical.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 08:09 PM
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10. DId Cheney teach school?
I kinda don't think so.

What did Cheney do for the betterment of humanity that justified his 5 deferrments?

MzPip
:dem:
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 08:14 PM
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12. Went to school, flunked out, got married,

fathered little draft deferments, went to school again.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 08:10 PM
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11. Isn't O'Lielly supposed to be over in Iraq, now?
Edited on Mon Aug-23-04 08:12 PM by krkaufman
Hey, didn't O'Lielly tell Michael Moore that he would be willing to go fight in Iraq?!? What the hell is he still doing editorializing? Time for action, Bill.
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0rion Donating Member (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 08:19 PM
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13. How old was Rush Limburger during the Vietnam War and did he serve?
Did Rush ever serve? How old was he during Vietnam? What's his lame ass excuse?
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 08:22 PM
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14. Some lame story about an anal cyst
I kid you not....
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 08:40 PM
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18. Yep, he haq a large pimple on his butt.
Classified 4-F - Unfit for military service.
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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:10 PM
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22. He is an anal cyst! n/t
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 08:24 PM
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15. HA HA, HA HA HA HA
TYPICAL REPUBLICAN CHICKENHAWK
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 08:27 PM
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16. "He chose"? Another lying hypocrite.
Edited on Mon Aug-23-04 08:30 PM by Old and In the Way
Like he chooses to enable this AWOL pResident in his immoral, unjustified war against a 3rd world army and covers the occupation and war profiteers with his outageous attacks against those who know and understand the real motives of this criminal junta.

Maybe if O'Reilly had chosen to serve, he'd been less gung-ho cheerleading for these cowards.
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WMliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 08:35 PM
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17. a teacher?! "mr. o'reilly, can I go to the bathroom?"
SHUT UP! SHUT UP! JUST SHUT UP!
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CaTeacher Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 08:55 PM
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19. I don't like O'Lielly,
but why are we jumping on everyone who did not go to Vietnam?

I was always against that war--I encouraged people to resist going--to do whatever they could to not go. I applaud people like president Clinton who did not serve.

Why are we suddenly jumping all over anyone who did not go? IT WAS AN ILLEGAL IMMORAL WAR. I wish that no one had of gone.
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WMliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:05 PM
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21. i agree with you
i'm not jumping on anyone who didn't go to nam. if i had been around, I'd have burned my draft card. I was just imagining O'Reilly as a teacher! YEESH!
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CaTeacher Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:21 PM
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sorry--I didn't mean you
in particular--I meant the thread in general.

I support the decision of anyone who didn't go--whether they headed to Canada or whatever.

I do applaud and respect those who did go--however I will never criticize anyone who refused to do so (no matter who they are--I will criticize them for other things--but not for refusing to fight that war).
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:21 PM
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23. The difference is
people like Cheney, Limbaugh, and O'Lielly support wars but want someone else to fight them.

When I was drafted during Vietnam, I had friends that used every trick in the book to get a 4-F, yet they were big time war supporters. They are now big time Bush and Iraqi War supporters. Don't confuse O'Lielly with war protesters opposing the war on moral grounds.

BTW, I attended anti-war demonstrations while serving active duty in the Army. Looked out of place with short hair but did it anyway. I was there in DC during the big one in April 1971.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:30 PM
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26. Yes, it was an immoral war,
I'm sure that was O'Rielly and Cheney's main motivation for not going.:eyes:

I think what most people are reacting to is the hypocrisy of people who favored the war but made damn sure they didn't have to fight in it, and now they happily send other people's sons and daughters off to fight and die in yet another immoral war.

I'm fine with the fact that Bill Clinton didn't go. He was opposed to the war, so his actions were consistent with his beliefs. Someone who favored the war but avoided serving is nothing but a chicken hawk in my book.
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CaTeacher Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 10:27 PM
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27. And as president Clinton
had to send troops into battle.

I am against all war--but I never criticized Clinton as Commander in Chief.

I support anyone who does not want to go. But, I also understand that if you are the President (like Clinton) sometimes you have to ask the troops to go. You can't be president if you AREN'T willing to send the troops--that is one reason why I could never be the president. Sending them--even though he did not go himself did not make Clinton a chicken hawk.

And I am not defending O'Lielly--I hate him. But I support his not going--and teaching in an inner city school is a great thing to do for your community as an alternative (although I shiver for the students stuck with him as a teacher).
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 10:33 PM
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28. You miss the central issue.
Anyone who was against the war and didn't go was being ethically and logically consistent.

But, people like Limpballs, Bush*, Cheney, O'Really, DeLay, Gingrich, etc claim that the war was NECESSARY and JUST. Yet they found a way to avoid going. That is not ethically and logically consistent. Either they are not as "patriotic" as they claim, or they are cowards. And now this same group finds new, necessary wars that others have to fight. They are Chickenhawks and need to be pilloried.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:23 PM
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24. he has a point. anyone here want to see that clown with an M-16?
.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:24 PM
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25. Bet A Lot Of Iraq Reservists Would Rather Be Teaching
What an asshole. Did you hear him with Michael Moore? "I wouldn't send my child, I'd send myself."

Yeah right.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 10:39 PM
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29. Yep, O'REILLY Browbeating Low Income Kids so THEY Would Go n/t
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:23 AM
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30. kick
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LibraLabSoldier Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:26 AM
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31. typical self serving justification
why us po folks should go to war. As long as they keep pricing college higher and higher, us po folks are gonna join the military to try to better ourselves. I guess they figure since their mommy and daddy could aford to send them off to school, those that couldnt should just send theirs off to war.....
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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:43 AM
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32. Rolling Stone has a big
article about him in this issue. I haven't read it yet as it came yesterday. I thumbed thru it quickly and it looked like a lot on politics or more than usual anyway.

They gave Steve Earl's new CD 4 stars too!! YeeHa!
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