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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 06:15 AM
Original message
It looks like Laura Bush dissed P-Diddy. . .big mistake!
Edited on Tue Aug-24-04 06:35 AM by wndycty
Did First Lady
send Puffy packing?

Sean (Puffy) Combs hasn't had a day like this since J.Lo kicked him to the curb. His Diddiness scrubbed last night's scheduled performance at the new Ohio slavery museum over what the rap mogul feels was a snub by the First Lady's office.

Combs reportedly was on his way to the National Underground Railroad Freedom Center in Cincinnati to play at the museum's dedication concert when somebody told him Laura Bush would not feel comfortable sharing the stage with him.

"He was planning on doing it," a Combs aide told us. "But we don't understand why she wouldn't want to stand with him. He hasn't been partisan at all."

A White House spokesman in Cincinnati for the event laughed off the claim.
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/225073p-193343c.html

The NY Post has it as well

LAURA DUCKS DIDDY PHOTO-OP
August 24, 2004 -- LAURA Bush delivered a diss to Sean "P. Diddy" Combs by refusing to appear alongside the hip-hop heavyweight at last night's grand opening of the National Underground Railroad Freedom Center in Cincinnati, sources said.

Combs was supposed to join the first lady, actress Angela Bassett, U2 frontman Bono, Ohio Gov. Bob Taft, Sen. Mike DeWine, Black Entertainment Television CEO Bob Johnson and other dignitaries at the ribbon-cutting ceremony, but Bush's office nixed the photo-op with Combs.

"Her reps made it very clear to Freedom Center that they would not have Laura Bush appearing in the same photo-op as P. Diddy," tattled our source.

"I'm not really sure why they didn't want her to pose with him, but maybe it has something to do with his scandalous past. For whatever the reason, Laura Bush's people did not want her photo taken with him."
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http://www.nypost.com/gossip/pagesix.htm
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 06:19 AM
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1. Puffy's been pretty non-partisan, only interested in registering voters
I have two questions about the UGRR museum:
1) Who invited Laura Bush?
2) Why is it in Cincinatti? Harriet Tubman's home (and place of burial) is in Auburn, NY (my hometown). :shrug:
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 06:25 AM
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3. No idea and whose bright idea was it to have Nick Lachey MC. . .
. . .hey I am big NEWLYWEDS fan, Nick is my boy, but who thought he was an appropriate MC for this event.
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:56 PM
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80. Because he's from Cincinnati.
n/t
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 08:34 PM
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89. Jessica Simpson is a Bush Supporter - so he probably is too.
She's actually supposed to travel around to drum up support. Guess she really IS stupid...
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 06:46 AM
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8. Exectly....
... someone should have told that grinning moron that if she were uncomfortable sharing photo-ops with PDiddy that she needn't appear.

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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 07:06 AM
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9. Maybe she's uncomfortable being with ANY black person...
...who isn't in her husband's admin? She probably still believes that black men smoke marijuana and rape white women... :eyes:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 09:01 PM
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91. But, but, but, Angela Bassett supposedly is going to be
there!
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 07:39 AM
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13. Cinncinati was a major stop on the Underground Railroad
The first city in the "north", along that route, and where the runaways crossed over the Ohio River on their way through Ohio and Michigan to Canada. It was their first stop in a free state, even though they still had to hide because of the fugitive slave act. There are Underground Railroad sites all through Ohio and Michigan. Many of the old, church-based colleges in both states had hiding places, and Second Baptist Church in Detroit (in Greektown) was one of the final stops on the railroad before Canada. Adrian College, in Michigan, was also a "station".

The stop in Detroit is a historic landmark, and a place where kids go on field trips. There also is a statue at Hart Plaza in downtown Detroit that honors the runaway slaves.

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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:12 PM
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40. This is a bigger diss.. the diss of the museum, itself! N/T
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 02:40 PM
Response to Reply #13
72. Perth Amboy, New Jersey was a stop on the railroad, too

rocknation
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MegaDeuse3080 Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 10:02 AM
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26. I was there
There were protesters who were calling Laura Bush a (female dog) and a white devil and it was clearly effecting her. She was there for the ground breaking ceremony two years ago that is why they invited her back. The protester were upset because they think that the money to build the museum should have gone to Cincinnati public schools and other places. I wanted to see P.Diddy and if it is true that she kicked him out then I lost all respect I had for her.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 01:29 PM
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56. Protest accounts from the Cincinnati Enquirer:
http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/08/24/loc_loc1a.html

A few protesters showed up late in the evening to speak out against what they believe is a lack of progress on race-related issues in Cincinnati.

At the dedication ceremony Monday, some of the protesters stood near the stage and heckled Bush, Luken and the Center's director, Spencer Crew, as they spoke. They shouted "no justice, no peace" and "Bush is the devil."

Luken acknowledged the hecklers before leaving the stage. "That is the spirit of the Freedom Center," he said. "It's a place where everybody can come together."
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:12 AM
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32. Kind of blows the "inclusion" part of their platform out of the water
I think they feel any attempt by a black man to register voters is partisan because they know they can't win black votes.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 06:24 AM
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2. Wouldn't feel comfortable sharing the stage with him?
:wtf:

OK, there are two possible explanations:

1. She is a racist.

2. She is afraid she would spontaneously drop to her knees and start fellating him.

So, Laura: which is it?
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 06:29 AM
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5. 3. All of the above.
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luaneryder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 06:26 AM
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4. Well, he is of the
"dark skinned" persuasion and a rapper to boot. How could anyone expect lily white Pickles to actually stand near someone like that, it might be dangerous, it might rub off, he could be a terraist in a clever Puffy disguise. Bigot!
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 06:38 AM
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6. Kick for the NY POST addition. . .
. . .the NY POST is also reporting it. . .see original post.
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 06:44 AM
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7. "but maybe it has something to do with his scandalous past"
well, 'scuse me, miss pickles, but in my book running down an ex-boyfriend with your car could be seen as way more 'scandalous' than anything p-diddy's ever done. now go smoke yourself a carton or more, put on a nice set of draperies, and go adhere to your awol cokehead alcoholic hubby. that's a good girl.
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blueknight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 07:08 AM
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10. this is a joke!
sean has been totally non-committed. he just wants people to vote!this just shows her true colors. i live across the ohio river from cincy in northern ky. and take my word for it, cincinnati is one of the most racist cities in america. the only reason this is in cincy i guess, because a lot of slaves were free if they reached cincinnati.
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 07:13 AM
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11. Diddy knows: Jack's still callin' you a nigger behind your back
Most African Americans know this, at least.

But does Colin Powell know? Does Dr. Rice know? One wonders...
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 07:49 AM
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14. Colin and Condi think they have an exemption. n/t
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Ruffhowse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 07:19 AM
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12. My guess is P. Diddy isn't "non-committed" now. I'd be pissed as hell
Edited on Tue Aug-24-04 07:20 AM by Ruffhowse
if I were him, and join the Kerry/Edwards effort big time.
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Tim4319 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 07:50 AM
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15. Puffy's scandalous past?
Didn't Laura run down her boyfriend in 1963?

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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 02:18 PM
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70. YUP
SanctimoniousTwat:argh:
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 07:52 AM
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16. The problem for me and many other black people
(From the response on C-SPAN yesterday) is that Laura Bush was there! Like someone asked on C-SPAN, was she scheduled before or after her husband snubbed the NAACP for a fourth time?
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 08:24 AM
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20. I agree. . .
. . .and what was Nick Lachey doing as the MC?
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:41 PM
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48. Amen, and wouldn't meet with Nelson Mandela.
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 01:31 PM
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57. I thought it was the other way around
Mandela wanted nothing to do with Boy George & Laura. (Who could blame him?)
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:41 PM
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49. right on
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 08:03 AM
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17. The version I wish they wrote: "Sean Combs refuses to appear with Laura"
Edited on Tue Aug-24-04 08:05 AM by johnfunk
August 24, 2004 -- Hip-hop mogul and self-starting entrepreneur Sean Combs delivered a diss to Laura Bush, wife of former Texas governor George W. Bush, when he learned that Mrs. Bush would refuse to appear alongside Mr. Combs at last night's grand opening of the National Underground Railroad Freedom Center in Cincinnati, sources said.

Combs was supposed to join Mrs. Bush, actress Angela Bassett, U2 frontman Bono, Ohio Gov. Bob Taft, Sen. Mike DeWine, Black Entertainment Television CEO Bob Johnson and other dignitaries at the ribbon-cutting ceremony, but Bush's office nixed the photo-op with Combs.

"His press representative made it very clear to Freedom Center that he was uncomfortable having Laura Bush appear in the same photo-op with himself anyway," tattled our source. "I'm not 100% certain as to why he didn't want her to pose with him, but maybe it has something to do with her scandalous past. She did, after all, kill her boyfriend in an automobile accident that may have involved the fatal combination of alcohol and personal rage."


ON EDIT: Fixed sloppy grammar error.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 08:09 AM
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18. This is why the Bushes need to go, in my opinion
Because anybody that makes me sympathetic to P. Diddy is clearly doing the Devil's work. Between the guns and riots and possible murder for hires and really shitty music, Mr. Combs (as the NY Times always calls him) would not be on my side. Yet, here I am. Aligned with Diddy. God help me.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 08:16 AM
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19. LOL! Yup, dislike for Georgie certainly makes for strange bedfellows, eh?
:toast:
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Cappadonna Donating Member (303 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 09:16 AM
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22. Exactly, P Diddy is a clown, but he's our clown now!!!!
As a hardcore (i.e. longtime and truly dedicated) hip-hop fan, Puffy is to rap what Kenny G is to Jazz and Micheal Bolton (from my hometown) is to R&B, a watered down joke. He's the Don King of Hip-Hop. Yeah, Simmons has a longer history of doing shaddy deals, but he's cleaned up his act and has a history discovering some of the most historic hip-hop acts (Beatie Boys, LL Cool J, Public Enemy, and of course Run DMC). He also has a soul. Suge Knight is a straight up gangsta. But he's in jail. And Master P is irrelevant. If it weren't for Puffy, Hip-Hop moguls would have to act like responsible, articulate entrepeneurs (at least in public).


Having said that, Pickles is more full of shit than an Iowa pig farm. Her husband gave props to Ozzy Osbourne (a satanist and drug addict) and danced on stage with Ricki Martin (a gay Puerto Rican). Some how Puffy is more offense to her Christian sensibilities that a devil worshipper and a Gay guy?! I guess a Black guy who actually like being black is a little too much for her lily white mind.

Also, any parent who would be freaked by Puffy's music really doesn't know the difference between hip-hop artists. It's Crappy, but mostly harmless. Puffy is tacky, loud and uncreative. But, he's never been a "gansta rapper", so this proves even moreso that Pickles (are her coked up Hubby) don't know jack about the outside world. Even my grand father knows that, and he has alzhiemers. Come on, she's a white suburban housewife with two children. She must have heard some rap in her life time. He drunken daughters probably know more P. Diddy crappy than I do (thank God)!! And with the thieves, sociopaths and murders who are own GW's pay roll, getting caught in a shootout in a NYC nightclub or smacking up an annoying co-worker hardly counts as being an axe-murderer.

Also, what the hell is with this hooker snubbibg an African American at the opening of the Underground Railroad Museum. That's like telling Coulter and Rice to piss off an Eleanor Roosevelt dedication ceremony. Politics aside, that was just stupid. I don't like Puffy, but slight a famous Black person at the opening of a Slavery Museum is serious lack of class.

Bush are batting in low .100 when it come to courting young minority voters. This only proves that they're a bunch callous elitist snobs who need to go.


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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 02:01 PM
Response to Reply #22
63. Is Suge back in jail?
When did that happen?
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 09:33 AM
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24. Amen!
nt
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:17 PM
Response to Reply #18
41. But here you are, agreeing with Laura Bush.

"guns and riots and possible murder for hires."

Apparently that's the same reason Laura doesn't want to be seen with him.

Never mind that he's been acquitted on all charges.

So what do you suppose the real reason is?
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 01:08 PM
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52. He was acquited of the gun charge
I don't think he was ever tried on the riot at the basketball game; I know he settled some civil suits over that. He was convicted for "harassing" Steve Stout after pleain it down from assault. And the murder-for-hire thing largely came from Tupac but who knows what he and Suge Knight were up to at the height of the East Coast-West Coast thing.

But anyway, you are missing the point of my post. The one thing that keeps irritating me about this Administration is that I loathe it so much I keep finding myself aligned with people, I find loathesome (on a much smaller level).

Would I personally appear at an event with Diddy? Probably not (of course, no one is asking me either. And, of course, I would love to be on a stage with Snoop Dog, which makes me...something). But he's now my ally in the fight against the Bushes.

So, I hope he helps us win in November and then promptly goes bankrupt and never produces another record again. (He can keep his clothing line, I guess).
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Doctor Panacea Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 05:10 PM
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83. No sympathy for 'P. Diddy'
I agree with 'theboss'. I cannot work up any sympathy for P. Diddy.

I don't care whose side 'P. Diddy' is on. He is a lowlife representative of the worst of American pop culture. I would not appear on a stage with him, either.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 08:53 PM
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90. P. Diddy would not ask for your sympathy

and he would not want to be on a stage with you either.

So there you go.

P. Diddy is probably off spending his millions and planning his latest business ventures. Or he may be working overtime on his "Get Out The Vote" campaign. Now, thanks to Pickles, he will do even more to energize HIS base.

If P. Diddy says "Vote for Kerry" they will vote for Kerry.

I salute P. Diddy for taking the time and making the vote important to Americans that are our future.

Rock Diddy, Rock

:yourock:
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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 09:12 AM
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21. I hope he goes off like Howard Stern now eom
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mconvente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 02:10 PM
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64. he definitely should
I think a poll taken a little while ago put Howard Stern as the most influential media person in America. Good thing he's pro-Kerry.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 09:29 AM
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23. I wonder if she would appear with Don King? Okay...
I don't really wonder. I already know that she would. What's her beef with "P?" He was accused of killing someone and was acquitted. She DID kill somebody as wasn't charged. Birds of a feather if you ask me. :shrug:
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 09:53 AM
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25. Can anyone tell me why Nick Lachey was the MC!
LOL
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 10:29 AM
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27. That's it.,she messed with my Diddy!

I hope that Mr. Combs takes her ass to the cleaners with his "Get Out The Vote."

Just wait until my brothers and sisters hear that bitch dissed Diddy!

People can bring up his history and say his music is this and that but I still love P. Diddy. He has given a start to many musicians and has tried to raise Hip Hop to a new level. Mr. Combs is a business man. He went to Howard University. He has made countless millions with his clothes line.

I hope he hires drivers to pick up the new urban voters and get them to the polls in style. He could call it the "Diddy Bus" for my money.
Just get our young people to the polls so they can participate in the process.


The nerve of that bitch to diss the Diddy!
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:04 AM
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30. Oh, I will say this AND that about his music.
"Do you think I'm jiggy?" Case closed.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:55 AM
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35. he's a businessman
i don't think he makes any bones about it. unlike many black musicians (even lousy ones)in the past, pdiddy and others have learned to play in the big leagues and the spread the wealth in the communities they came from. his music is a commodity, something that BA in marketing taught him well...and as i mentioned, i don't think he's deluded about that. as to his efforts to get out the vote, that's lot more than many fine musicians are doing. and of course...that was the real reason for the snub from pickles.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:07 PM
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38. Thank you very much


I agree!
He has enough money to just chill out.

Instead, he ran the marathon in New York and donated money to the Public Schools.

I applaude him for his efforts to get out the votes with our young people.

Where is Justin Timberlake or M and M on the vote issue?
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:24 PM
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43. Jiggy?

Wasn't that Will Smith?
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:59 PM
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51. That was "Gettin' Jiggy Wit It"
Some awful Puffy-backed group (I think he was Puffy then) followed up that song with "Do You Think I'm Jiggy?" which in true Puffy fashion took the hook, chorus, and most of the lyrics from another song that was pretty terrible to begin with ("Do You Think I'm Sexy?")

I just looked it up. It was The Lox:

If you really dig me, and you think I'm jiggy
Come on shorty let me know
We can get together, we can do whatever
But you can't get no dough
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 02:15 PM
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67. is there any chance this could really happen????
big $$$$$ people hiring limos to take urban voters to the polls????


remember FL2000 when blacks using own cars to take voters to the polls were stopped by cops and harassed because drivers didn't have chauffeur license
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SCDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 10:35 AM
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28. P Diddy was at the Democratic Convention... "non-partisan"?
I think Laura knows who he'll be voting for. But if Bono was one of the persons she was to stand next to he was at the Democratic Convention as well. Maybe it is because he is a black male...
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:24 PM
Response to Reply #28
75. Yeah, I saw him at the convention too.
With Leo and Ben.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 10:37 AM
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29. These people are just plain dumb
Piss off the NAACP, piss off P. Diddy, try to strong arm black voters in Florida, send Alan Keyes in as your token black ringer........ yep, they've got a good hold on the minority vote.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:11 AM
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31. Black people make Laura uncomfortable
So Sean shoulda showed up anyway and had his arm around her at every opportunity.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 05:21 PM
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85. I'd rather see Dave Chappelle do that
I can't wait for the comedy sketch he could do on this one!
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:15 AM
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33. She's uncomfortable standing next to PDiddy but what about Chalabi?
Hypocrite? Or is it the black thing?
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:23 AM
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34. Her own husband is a walking scandal
she has had her own scandel, herself - having killed someone... and then are her kids and their scandals... and the Bush brother's scandals...

I think she should just stay home.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:25 PM
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44. here you go
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 02:52 PM
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73. She always looks like she's just noticed a really bad smell nearby.
Even in that ridiculous commercial with georgie, in which he's talking about the "Sophie's Choice" moment during 9/11 - the agony for a parent who has to decide which child to pick up - WTF?!?!?!?!? For those who aren't exclusionary by nature, and do know how to use BOTH arms at the same time, that was pure, pathetic embarrassment. And there she sat, next to him, with this "bad-smell" sneer on her face. Lord have mercy.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:58 AM
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36. Will the real class conscience, racist First Lady, please
stand up! Oh brother! If I were Oprah, I would have told her that her presence wasn't need after all.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:55 PM
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79. I wonder? Is Oprah a Democrat?
Somehow I've gotten the impression that she supports George Bush. Am I mistaken?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 04:53 PM
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81. I think she leans conservative at times. Maybe she's an
independent. I can't see her supporting Bush in anyway, though, but maybe her nice woman image would be smeared if she openly criticized the Chimperor.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 07:39 PM
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98. She sure fell all over Aa r nold and Maria
Edited on Wed Aug-25-04 07:40 PM by goclark

I like Oprah but she really just gushes over Maria and that slime husband of hers.

Just before the election Oprah let him act and ass on her show.
She did not call him on anything.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 05:25 PM
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86. Oprah's probably for anyone who'll let her keep as much of her money
in her pocket as possible and will allow her to make her employees work overtime and not pay them.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:04 PM
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37. Nick Lachey was the MC
Because he's the biggest star from Cincinnati. That they could get.

George Clooney won't sully his fingers with the Queen City anymore. And Bootsy Collins? No one in Cincy even knows who that is.

If Marge Schott were alive, Cincinnati's resident geniuses would have asked her.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:45 PM
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50. Dr. Johnny Fever would have been better.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 01:25 PM
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55. As opposed to Venus
Surely you jest.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:09 PM
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39. No one is allowed too close to her..
.. they'd see the mechanical panel in her back.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:17 PM
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42. Teresa and Hillary have both appeared with him and talked with him
and from what they say he wasn't partisan but mostly spoke about issues that should matter to all such as getting more people to vote, especially younger voters .
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:29 PM
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45. How would that play with the Bushevik Base
To have their Laura depicted with an Uppity Negro.

The NeoConfederacy IS the backbone of the Bushevik Party.
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chefgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 01:20 PM
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53. Simple racism
That was exactly my take on it too. To have Laura photographed beside Puffy would really piss off the most typical Bush supporters. Its completely about racism, they just won't admit it openly.

I have (ex)friends who are now Bush supporters. Former hippies even, (which makes it more amazing to me) whose 13 yr old daughter brought home a black boy one day. He was a really nice kid, too.
They tolerated him for about an hour or so, and when he left, I was astounded at the tirade they started spewing at her. All of those old racist lines about how white girls can't be seen with black boys or no white boys would ever bother with them again, and on and on......
To her credit, she questioned her parents as best she could, told them that she didn't agree with them, she didnt want anything to do with those white boys if that was the way they thought and a few other points.

I was stuck between the shit and the sweat, so to speak. I wanted to walk out so badly, but also wanted an opportunity to speak to her after they were done. Shes sort of my unofficial Goddaughter, so I felt I HAD to give her a different point of view. So, I offered to take her to the 'mall' to break the tension a bit, and basically told her that she really had no choice but to obey her parents wishes while she was under their roof, but that didn't mean that she had to change her point of view. I told her that I had a lot more respect for her tolerance than for her parents intolerance, and that I hoped she would hold fast to her beliefs because people like her are the only ones who will ever be able to change racist attitudes in this country.

Anyway, this story brought that whole incident back to my mind and sounded like exactly the same thing to me.
Absolutely sickening.

-chef-
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:30 PM
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46. here is Hillary with P. Diddy




now check out who Laura has no problem appearing with

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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 01:56 PM
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62. Nice! LOL!
And why hasn't Chalabi been arrested yet?

Is Bushco afraid of drawing attention to the fact that he CONNED them into INVADING A COUNTRY?
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 02:17 PM
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69. wow it looks like puff daddy REALLY likes hillary
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 09:41 PM
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95. those who meet her say she is a very warm person
and comfortable to be around. total opposite of the right wing attacks on her as being cold, selfish which more applies to laura bush.

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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:35 PM
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47. P.Diddy has the power of Rasputin. Laura feared he would break down her
Edited on Tue Aug-24-04 12:37 PM by oasis
"Stepford Wife Robot" shield and put her out on the stroll.

"Who's yer daddy beeach?"
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bo44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 10:18 PM
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96. lol
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monobrau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 01:24 PM
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54. Please - P. Diddy is a scumbag
I wouldn't stand next to a thug like him either, and please don't try to pull the race card on me. He is a criminal scumbag who has bought his way into politics, and is no better than any of the corporate whores that own the GOP.
If he wants to work independently to get out the vote, I applaud him, but democratic politicians are fools if they do photo ops with him.
Maybe less relevant, but important to me is that he churned out some of the worst music of the 90's. Artistically, he is brain dead.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 01:38 PM
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58. "thug"

Where have I heard that before?
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:22 PM
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74. THUG...why it's the standard adjective used to describe
Edited on Tue Aug-24-04 03:30 PM by noiretblu
powerful men who aren't lily white, favored by the rw, but used liberally by many. the word is generally reserved for heads of state (chavez, mugabe, hussein), but it can be used to described almost anyone (sharpton, oj, pdiddy). rarely used to describe actual thugs, e.g., bush, inc.

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Cappadonna Donating Member (303 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 01:46 PM
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59. No more a scumbag than convicted felons and war criminals who work for W:
As I said, I'm no Puffy fan. But Laura Bush to act as if she above a self-made African American businessman at a Slavery museum just show how little taste this woman has.

Just as O'Reilly decided to start a media war with Pepsi over Ludacris (eventhough they have the Osbournes on the payroll), for Stepford Wife Laura to snub Puffy shows no class.

Bought his way into politics? You mean like Governor Gropenator, her own damn husband, Bill Frist, Sonny Bono and the Red Ink Ronnie?

Criminal? Does she avoid the convicted war criminal and traitor, Ollie North? Or how about convicted mass murderers like Kissenger and Negroponte? This is racism and elitism, pure and simple. Laura doesn't have a problem with Negroes, so long as they're on her pre-approved list.

- Cappa
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monobrau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 02:13 PM
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66. You made my point for me
Edited on Tue Aug-24-04 02:32 PM by monobrau
"Bought his way into politics? You mean like Governor Gropenator, her own damn husband, Bill Frist, Sonny Bono and the Red Ink Ronnie?"

Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about.

As I said in my post, he IS like the people who bought their way into the GOP, and the democratic party should strive to do better and be a party of the people and not emulating GOP douchebaggery.
If you want to find a role model in the world of hip hop, may I suggest you check out KRS One or Chuck D?
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:27 PM
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76. no one, except you, is seeking a "hip hop role model"
he's no different from any other celebrity, who by virtue of their wealth and celebrity have access to power brokers. at least this one is working to register voters. is there any difference between him and barbra streisand or any other wealthy person?
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Cappadonna Donating Member (303 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 08:31 PM
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88. And you are making mine..................
My point isn't that P Diddy is worth emulating or that he's any better, its that LaLa Laura is using a double standard to judge people. How can be all chummy with Governor Gropenator and Ted Nugent and diss Sean Combs at a Slavery Museum? Are the meds that strong?!
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 02:16 PM
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68. He has also given us the work of great artists
Mary J. Blige, Notorious B.I.G., Faith Evans, and many others on his Bad Boy label. To you, this may the be worst music of the 90s. But to people he is working hard to get out and vote, "Vote or Die," his t-shirt says, it was some of the best music. Don't forget that. That's what's important about P. Diddy, impressario, businessman, night club proprietor, record producer and label owner, Broadway actor, fashion designer, political activist, a man of many talents.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 05:37 PM
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87. what crime has he been convicted of?
how has he bought his way into politics?

The Dems who do photo ops with them recognize that he's a very strong personality within the hiphop culture and to diss him or ignore him is to diss and ignore a substantial number of young voters who are now of age to vote... and could vote for them.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 09:03 PM
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92. Well, he plead guilty to harassment.

Was sentenced to one day anger management counseling and it was all struck from his criminal record.

But of course he did a bunch of violent crimes that never went to trial and who knows what he could have done that we don't know about.

The guy's a thug and the lowest form of human being.

(sarcasm).

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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 01:47 PM
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60. Clinton dissed Sister Souljah.
they know what they're doing. i don't approve or agree, but its a political calculus.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:37 PM
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77. LOL...it worked for clinton
so...it will certainly work for the republicans. someone who used to be here said clinton's stunt was a pivotal point in his campaign. i think that's a really, really pathetic commentary, if true. for the bushes though, this is just business as usual.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 01:53 PM
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61. Maybe she doesn't like phony sellouts.
I wouldn't want to hang around that pistol-packin', name-changin, big-gums-havin', song-stealin', Biggie-Corpse-Exploitin' HACK either.

Vote or DIE? Is that supposed to appeal to people.

I guess he's supposed to be some kind of liberal or something - I've heard his name associated with some good efforts in New York, but I can't stannd his lame public persona or performances.

I wouldn't be surprised if pickles dissed him 'cause she's askeered of "nigras" but it's just as likely she heard about his activism and got scared he might point out what a giggling murderer her husband is.

Sorry if this post sends a mixed message. Hard for me to really warm up to Diddkly.

He did do a good job playing the death row convict in "Monster's Ball", though...
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 02:11 PM
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65. Pot. Meet. Kettle.
Funny, eh?
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 02:32 PM
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71. Huh?
From the Daily News:
Combs reportedly was on his way to the National Underground Railroad Freedom Center in Cincinnati to play at the museum's dedication concert when somebody told him Laura Bush would not feel comfortable sharing the stage with him.

But the Post says:
LAURA Bush delivered a diss to Sean "P. Diddy" Combs by refusing to appear alongside the hip-hop heavyweight at last night's grand opening of the National Underground Railroad Freedom Center in Cincinnati, sources said.

Did he actually get into the building or not? And does Laura Bush REALLY want to get into a discussion about scandalous pasts?

:headbang:
rocknation
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:46 PM
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78. Headline: Dowdy Missus Disses Diddy.
:crazy:
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ContinentalOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 09:06 PM
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101. LOL!
That's hot. Get thee to the AP ASAP!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 04:58 PM
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82. "SOME PEOPLE think brown skins don't photograph well?"
Eh, George?
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 05:12 PM
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84. Guess Laura didn't get the memo
on Citizen Change:

http://www.channelone.com/news/2004/07/21/ap_pdiddy_vote/
http://p076.ezboard.com/fpoliticalpalacefrm34.showMessage?topicID=710.topic
http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,14556,00.html?newsrellink
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5469902/

When Sean “P. Diddy” Combs unveiled his get-out-the-vote initiative, it had all the elements of hot album release party.
There was a DJ spinning cool songs. A “street team” of young kids wearing T-shirts promoting the cause. A few supermodels. Even an A-list celebrity face in Democratic strategist James Carville (well, A-list for political world, that is).


Let's see--Diddy and his artists sell how many tens of thousands of cd's? And Laura doesn't want to share the stage with someone with that kind of draw from an untapped constituency? That's cool---she's just showing her narrowmindedness and intolerance for a segment of the younger generation who are of age to vote...

It's a huge mistake to dismiss someone with that kind of draw. He's got the bucks to be in 'their club', but I suppose he has too much melanin and too much of a beat for Laura. She needs to just sit down and do some knitting and stfu. That's about all she's good for.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 09:07 PM
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93. There is another thread on du about "leaving" pickles
Edited on Tue Aug-24-04 09:09 PM by zidzi
alone.

This is just one reason why I disagree. It's just more of the bush dividing America scene.

Like windycity said.."big mistake"...PDiddy was not partisan but maybe he should be.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 09:38 PM
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94. Well there is a difference. . .we are not making this shit up. . .
. . .unlike the Laura was a hooker thread. Plus its out in the press and its a major league diss.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 07:44 PM
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99. Sorry, I didn't even look at the "laura is a hooker" thread.
I stick to facts. If that is what was meant be leaving her alone(making shit up) then I agree.
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Happy Eddie Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 10:51 PM
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97. For the culturally uninspired
Here's a link to the lyrics for "Real Niggas", recorded by Mr. Combs with Li'l Kim and the Notorious B.I.G.

http://www.allthelyrics.com/lyrics/p_diddy/forever_200000/real_niggas/

The page also has a link to some downloadable P. Diddy polyphonic ringtones.

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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 07:49 PM
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100. Father, I want to kill you
Mother, I want to fuck you
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truthbetold Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 09:13 PM
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102. Wow, WHATEVER could be the problem?
Could it be because he's BLACK?
Naaaahhhhh...
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