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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 10:52 AM
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Not much has been said about the new over-time rules
What does it exactly say, and who voted for it?
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MaryH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 10:55 AM
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1. No one Knows!
Everyone is saying something different. These new regulations were supposedly to "clear" things up. Now, no one has any idea who is supposed to get what.

My boss just said he would call our OT a bonus so we wouldn't be affected because he has no clue what he is supposed to do.
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 10:57 AM
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2. I believe it was turned down in House & Senate 2 times,
then some way it ended up in Bush's hands maybe in some committee and he forwarded it on to the Labor Secretary who put it into action. They went over congress to do this.

I worked all last year by calling and sending telegrams to my congressmen about it. I thought I was getting somewhere when the bill did not pass by the second time. They might have snuck it through in another bill, I don't know. But I do believe Bush overrode the defeat of the bill the second time.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:24 PM
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12. Imperial Fiat is all that is required to make law in the Amerikan Empire
The Imperial Congress remains as a soip to the sensibilities of those who only recently lost their Free Institutions.

This is for the same reason Caeser preserved the Roman Senate.

Because the central core of Roman Philosophy was that their nation was born in freeinf itself from a Kingly Tyrant.

It wound up bowing, centuries later, to a family of Kingly Tyrants.

just like Imperial Amerika.

This makes perfect sense, given the new Imperial Realities in Bushmerika.
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Search Party Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:07 AM
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3. Lots of info at this link
Edited on Tue Aug-24-04 11:08 AM by aammpp
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:15 AM
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4. The problem is cause and effect
The cause is now, but the effect might not be for a couple of months; so people are having a hard time understanding that next year when they have to work 10 hours a week of unpaid overtime, that the cause happened last week.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:26 AM
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5. It's going to take
a couple of pay cycles for people to figure out if they're being hurt or not. I believe they are, nothing this bunch of miscreants does helps anyone but their friends or themselves.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:07 PM
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9. agree - they will wake up when the expected money is not there
nt
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:33 AM
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6. Vote? There was no fucking vote
Edited on Tue Aug-24-04 12:20 PM by realFedUp
Howabout them apples...yeah, this was just
handed down by Bush and the Labor Dept. This
is what Amerika looks like....

http://www.aflcio.org/yourjobeconomy/overtimepay/

snip-

The Bush administration’s yearlong drive to take away millions of U.S. workers’ overtime pay protections became law Aug. 23. But Congress can overturn it.

President George W. Bush used the federal regulatory process, which does not require congressional approval, to make it easier for employers to avoid paying overtime to their employees. The new overtime regulations, which redefine who is eligible for overtime pay under the Fair Labor Standards Act, were published in the Federal Register in April.

Since then, the U.S. Senate twice voted to block any changes in the overtime eligibility regulations. But in the House, Republican leaders refuse to even let the issue come up for debate.

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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:14 PM
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10. this is BS...how can they do that?
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:21 PM
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11. federal regulatory process.....
snip-

President George W. Bush used the federal regulatory process, which does not require congressional approval, to make it easier for employers to avoid paying overtime to their employees.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:40 PM
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15. Regulations are funny things.. they carry the weight of Law but are not
They can only be affected by the office that created them. People have no say what so ever. Law is developed by legislation from the people's representatives and can be changed through the legislative process. Regulations can only be affected by the office or Person who created them. Regulations are treated as law by enforcement and carry penalties as does law. They are not Law though and can be quite arbitrary.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:41 AM
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7. about 500 pages of new rules
and not many people really know anything yet. Was watching Lou Dobbs yesterday with a woman who wrote part of the new rules for DOL.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:42 AM
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8. Why did I have to search for this article?
Not in top news stories, that's for sure.

Federal overtime law now in effect

http://www.thereporteronline.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=12763680&BRD=2275&PAG=461&dept_id=466404&rfi=6
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:28 PM
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14. I couldn't find this in the LA Times
more aptly named the LAte Times....
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:28 PM
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13. Seems they will hurt more people than help.
Hands off my time-and-a-half!
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