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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:03 AM
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Assassinations are a messy business
Some 40 years ago on a street in Dallas, Texas, John F. Kennedy was the target in a plot to remove a sitting president from power. Without getting in to who was ultimately responsible for that tragedy, whether it was a lone gunman or a conspiracy of a few or many, suffice to say that it is an extremely messy, if not morbidly grotesque and disgusting way to accomplish your ultimate goal of removing that person from power. I think the present administration has learned many lessons from that fateful day in Dallas. Even a casual study of the events of that day would leave one with an understanding of what can go right and wrong while trying it under real live circumstances. There are so many variables to consider not the least of which is getting caught at it. So I think the greatest lesson the repugs and this administration learned from Dallas is simply this... why assassinate the person when you can just as easily assassinate his character. Way less messy and the cover-up is a simple matter of paid liars lying about it. Or simply put, politics. The bushies have become masters at it.
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CaptainClark23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:15 AM
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1. Tools of the Trade
The days of the "lone gunman" are gone. As you say, a rifle is messy.

Small Aircraft malfunctions on the other hand, seem to work great.
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:19 AM
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2. For what it is worth - I was at the site where it happened 3 years ago.
and I looked at the event as a sniper's excerise and came away with the following conclusions:

It could not possibly have happened the way the Warren Commission stated.

If you look out the window, imagine yourself with a cheaply made bolt-action rifle
equipped with a scope with poor eye-relief. - tracking a target moving away from you on a curving road, ACELLERATING in speed, I just don't see how it could happen.

I'd have a hard time hitting something like that with a scope equipped 1903-A3 much less something far less accurate. And my targets don't speed away.

Then I walked the road, halting at the yellow circles painted on the street and curb showing where the shots hit and looked back at the trajectory to the window of the bldg. ONE PERSON could not have managed it.
Whomever it was, the mob, the Cubans, our own CIA, or the first George Bush...
Barney the Dinosaur,
no one person could have pulled it off - given THAT rifle fired from THAT position.
Just working the bolt, clearing the spent casing, chambering the next round, acquiring and HITTING the target at the next opportunity.... I was talking to a retired Marine sniper who had 47 known kills in Vietnam and he said he could not have managed it either. But a team of snipers.... Wonder what REALLY did happen ? I guess we always will.
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:28 AM
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3. Been there many times myself
My gallery picture is about 15 feet from the fatal shot. I agree, not likely a lone gunman.
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:45 AM
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4. " and today you can't swear that the man was shot dead"
by a gun that didn't make any noise.
but it wasn't the bullet that laid him to rest.
'was the low spark of high heeled boys....

Traffic, Title Song, 1972 Steve Wynwood.

and now, it could be agents posing as small plane mechanics....
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