Who will control 200 years & trillions of dollars of U.S. Intel?

[better2know]

Umm...the real potential world's superpower?
That's why this info is divided up,
need to know basis, etc.

This consolidation, if it is for anything other than show, could easily tip the balance of U.S and World power.



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[DUreader]

1. secret-society, power struggle again?

damn

[better2know]

2. actually

as I hinted in my post,
I think
"Umm" is "the real potential world's superpower"
All Hail Umm!

[better2know]

3. too hot to touch?

n/t

[stavka]

4. US Intelligence has failed to detect anything since the Zimmerman note....

Pearl Harbor attack? Soviet Bomb? Chinese attack in Korea? Soviet Space Launch? Invasion of Afghanistan? Lebanon Marine barracks bombing? Collapse of Soviet Union? Counter Coup in Russia? Militia Attacks at home?

That's just the big stuff....

[better2know]

5. hey stavka

I'm really talking about the history-the small stuff
leverage
they have files on everybody, worldwide.
Used in intelligently inconjuction with the world's biggest intel system, you have unprecedented power.
And I agree, power corrupts.

[stavka]

6. ...I just don't see it as that threatening...

I see it as internal political crap that offers no solutions to the nations problems, but doesn't really escalate any existing problem to the next level.

Kidnappings in the middle of the night of US citizens in this country, clear and Universal cooperation of local/state police agencies or non-intelligence related Federal law enforcement, political arrest, and most importantly stricter control on not only guns, but ammunition.

I don't dispute some folks might feel some heat, real or imagined

[better2know]

7. multiple intel sources help keep power from concentrating

Just like we have a "less efficient", but 3-part government, it is supposed to keep power from concentrating.

Maybe this situation won't be so bad, but what about the next intel czar, or the one after that?

[stavka]

8. ...but I don't think this position will have access to domestic Intel.

I know that is a murky line, but the FBI/CIA could never work it out, why would adding a third super agency make it any better?

I am yet to be convinced the CIA can operate with any efficiency in this country - the FBI barely can with regards to Intel.

My father was NSA, and he always said they taped everything, but shared nothing - they are more Military at heart (as iss my father, even now - a rabid liberal today).

With the digital age, the advantage the NSA offered should it be turned domestically is limited, except against those that aren't really threats (they won't stop using their phones or COMPUTERS)

I just don't see it as anything more than a bureaucratic manuver...that obviously the career civil servants don't want either. I think it will die on delivery.

[better2know]

9. well spoken Stavka

I certainly hope this isn't 'anything more than a bureaucratic manuver'.
I don't think anybody wants consolidation, except the fascists.

[stavka]

10. Thanks....

It hasn't worked well in other countries to create multiple agencies...

Nazi Germany, USSR, Iraq, Israel, Modern Italy/France/Britain

Try to create multiple independent intelligence agencies - they always seem to spend/waste the majority of their time duplicating efforts and trying to watch their own domestic intelligence rivals. (same goes with more traditional law enforcement)

I think it goes to show how bad the current US leadership is at being tyrants - which is actually a pretty easy way to rule (tyranny) if you have half a brain and anybody (like 1%) you can actually trust.