As much of a BFEE watcher as I am, and even THIS came as a surprise.

[blm]

Someone I know is illustrating a horror novel and the basic story is that there is a shadow government that controls the world's resources by feeding the sexual proclivities of the leaders of the needed countries.

I mentioned that I knew of a woman in LA who sued the Sultan of Brunei for keeping her against her will for over a month forcing her into sexual situations. She was a Miss USA, Shannon Marketic. Well.....

I googled to show him an old story (a judge said the Sultan couldn't be sued) and discovered that the Sultan was a longtime CIA favorite operator.

Now, I feel that my friend's story just may have more truth to it than anyone expected.

Anyone have info on Sultan of Brunei and Poppy Bush? Or, maybe James Baker?

[starroute]

1. Elliot Abrams good enough for you?

"In the internal struggle over peace in the Middle East, the neo-conservatives within the administration prevailed. Elliot Abrams, chief of Middle East affairs at the NSC, was their main man. During the Iran-contra scandal, Abrams had helped set up a rogue foreign policy operation. His soliciting of $10m from the Sultan of Brunei for the illegal enterprise turned farcical when he juxtaposed numbers on a Swiss bank account and lost the money. He pleaded guilty to lying to Congress and then spent his purgatory as director of a neo-conservative thinktank, denouncing the Oslo Accords and arguing that 'tomorrow's lobby for Israel has got to be conservative Christians, because there aren't going to be enough Jews to do it'. Abrams was rehabilitated when George Bush appointed him to the NSC."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1084880,00.html

[Toots]

2. He somehow lost ten million dollars??????

His punishment for "losing" the money was to head up a right wing think tank. Wow I bet he was really sorry after that...

[blm]

4. I wonder if feeding the sexual proclivities of these oil sheiks was part

of Abram's job? White slavery didn't exactly start with jakuza.

[A_Possum]

13. What was her "incident?"

Are you thinking that she was "delivered" to the Sultan, like as part of a deal?

[blm]

14. From what I understand she thought she was on a promotional tour.

So...who ran these tours, or allowed them to be legal in the US, soliciting talent?

The judge said the Sultan had immunity. I hardly believe that judge made that decision on his own.

[KoKo]

3. Oh yeah! You got it...just look at the list of Repugs involved with "SEX"

for Business. Pedophiles, rapists, voyeur's compelling wives into sex clubs...

They are sick. And the more the RW Christian Fundies grab hold of them, the more they become like Jimmy Swaggert. Crying "Mea Culpa!" "Mea Culpa" begging God to forgive their "sins of the flesh."

:shrug: HYPOCRACY!

[VolcanoJen]

5. You know Shannon Marketic?

Wow. I can remember being incredibly impressed by her story, years ago. I think she was on 20/20 or Dateline or one of those shows, and I was absolutely horrified by her experience. I remember being very proud of her at the time for coming out to the world in that way, because it must have been incredibly difficult given her high profile. I ended up doing a lot of research on the Sultan of Brunei because of her story, but I never came up with your CIA link.

That's very cool that you know Shannon Marketic, blm. She's a terrific woman. :-)

[blm]

9. Just barest of acquaintances.

She worked on a charity event with me. This was right before her incident.

[anarchy1999]

6. Sorry for your surprise, why would you of all person's be surprised?

blm, I know you better. There is nothing, nothing that the BFEE can do or have been reported to have done that should surprise you!!!

[blm]

8. well, not terribly surprised....

somewhat surprised would be more accurate. And yeah...I never give those thugs the benefit of ANY doubt because they don't deserve one ounce of benefit, imo.

[anarchy1999]

10. There you go, there is the blm I know and love.

n/t

[Tsiyu]

7. I firmly believe that

after their success witch hunting Clinton, the shadowy folks (those * knows well) have made it their business to blackball as many people as they can by secretly filming all of them in compromising positions. Many a DC party no doubt was fertile ground for this undercover documentation. And many a journalist, politician and official have been dancing like their feet were being shot at, reporting and supporting as if they are scared to death of something hurting them if they tell the whole truth.

There is more in the dark world of the fanatics than we ever want to know....

[blm]

11. Well, looks like they may have had plenty of practice LONG before Clinton.

I really think there's a lot more REVOLTING acts they have participated in. Y'know, alot of attractive young people and many children go missing in some incredibly unexplainable circumstances. Many times WITHOUT A TRACE.

[starroute]

12. I read something many years ago . . .

It was probably back in the 70's and in either Rolling Stone or The Village Voice. It said that Washington, DC prostitutes all agreed that the Republican politicians who used their services were into really nasty power games. It didn't give details, but I got the impression that it wasn't anything as routine as ordinary S&M -- that they liked to beat the women up, maybe even leave them with broken bones or other serious injuries, and then pay whatever it took to keep things quiet. It was strictly a Republican thing -- the Democrats weren't that way at all.

I haven't thought about that for years, but I was suddenly reminded of it by your post. If it's true, it says a lot about the Republican mentality. For that matter, even if it's only urban legend, it says something that the Republicans would have that sort of rep.

[bobthedrummer]

15. Children have been "researched" and "trained" by our national intelligence

community-which includes organized crime, mercenaries and the rainbow coalition of neo-nazis:grr:

Perhaps the childhood memories of Cheryl Hersha, her sister and lots of American kids are recollections of the special access programs (child assassins, paramilitaries, sex lures, etc.)

Woman Learned How to Kill as Child
http://www.raven1.net/kilchild.htm

The CIA, Mind Control and Children (A talk by John Rappoport)
http://www.nlp-mindcontrol.com/cia_children_mind_control.htm

[blm]

16. Yeeowch......had not see this before.

A whole new level of horror in this aspect of the BFEE.