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kcwayne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 06:42 AM
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What color should she order for her burka?
"I really like Bush because he's God-oriented. I don't get that vibe from Kerry," said Beverly Hinzman, 23, who works part-time selling Mary Kay cosmetics while caring for her 3-year-old daughter. "I feel it's very important to have the leader of the country believe in the Lord to lead us in the right direction."

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As long as you think that the right direction includes killing tens of thousands of innocent civilians, pathological lying, and an utter lack of morality founded on ethics can be swept away by an alcoholic that professes he gave up booze for the Lord, this moron has her president.

Democracy was not designed for people this stupid and evil.
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Norbert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 06:50 AM
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1. Did she say anything about...
Edited on Thu Aug-26-04 06:50 AM by Norbert
the Lord giving us the intellect and reasoning to be able to guide ourselves in the right direction?

Sheeesh! Some of these people.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 06:58 AM
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2. She forgot to read the part
about free will.

It's a gift most christians don't understand.

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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 07:56 AM
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3. Why pink of course! That is the Mary Kay color of preference.
:hi:
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MaryH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:10 AM
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4. Except I think they only come in Cornflower Blue
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:17 AM
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5. This is the double standard I was just talking about
On the thread about Sadr, I was told that if people want to live under a religious theocracy, we should just respect that. It's a matter of choice and who are we in the west to judge.

Now here is a woman who decides to vote on religious grounds and she is considered a freaking idiot (which she is, but bear with me).

Why do so many so-called progressives think that it is insanity for enlightened westerners to allow any kind of religion to seep into their decision-making process, but think it is perfectly normanl that third-worlders want to live under oppressive regimes that turn women into property?

What am I missing?
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:22 AM
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6. No one is saying that this woman should be killed!
No one is saying that we should imprison her and beat the sense into her! If there are Iraqis who do not want a theocracy, I hope they rally a majority and put a stop to the foolishness. But that is for Iraqis to decide - just as our government should be for us to decide. We can hate theocracies and at the same time recognize that if a majority of a nation choose that form of government, we have no say in it.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:26 AM
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7. So, if 50.1 percent of Americans vote to suspend the Constitution?
I should just accept that as will of the majority? Doesn't madness live in that neck of the woods?
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 09:05 AM
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11. A majority, in America (at least right now) cannot vote
to suspend the constitution. We are talking about the right of a people to self determination. We might not like what they determin. Hell, we may become their enemies because of their determination. But we have no right - NO RIGHT - to make that determination for them. Period. There are many things about many nations that we may not like, but thinking that we can go around the world forcing everyone into being what WE want - that is truly where madness lives.
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:56 AM
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10. Precisely Dhalgren
for the record, if this woman wants to live her life according to the gospel of Bush, or Falwell, or whatever, that is her choice too. As long as she does not go around violating the rights of her fellow citizens, she can think exactly what she wants. And if a majority of Americans decided tomorrow that they wanted to turn the USA into a Christian theocracy, well, I'd hope the minority would exercise their right to self-determination.
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kcwayne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:41 AM
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8. I didn't post on that thread, and I have no respect for Islamic theocracy
So don't accuse me of having a double standard. I abhor all totalitarianism, whether it be politically or religiously based.

Islamic theocracy is the melding of politics and religion by choice and design, and as a result there is neither political or personal freedom in those societies that embrace it. I want to stay as far away from those societies as I can. As Christian fundamentalists embrace the joining of politics and religion, and are using their control of the Republican party and media to move our Democracy to a Christian totalitarianism, I will be disgusted by that as well. I won't be in the US when they make it a law to worship and a crime to commit blasphemy. I will either be dead or will have moved to sane ground.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 08:45 AM
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9. Most people who live under a theocracy are born under one!
You don't CHOOSE to live under one unless you're an idiot American Right Wing NUT.
And Religious Theocracy is redundant.
Duckie
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 09:48 AM
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12. I have no problem with religious thinking seeping into peoples
Edited on Thu Aug-26-04 09:49 AM by Cheswick
decision making process. The fact that this woman is dumb doesn't change that.
I know lots of people who are lefties because of their religious thinking "seeping in" I know plenty of righties who are non religious and their politics stink.
If this woman thinks boygeorge is godly then that is a failure on our part to discuss the issue in a way she understands.
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