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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:36 PM
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Nightline, Spy in the Pentagon
Chris Bury

Just a heads up.

:)
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:37 PM
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1. bah, between this and Bill Maher
guess i could tape one
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:38 PM
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2. Thank you.
I would have missed it.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:38 PM
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3. Investigation has gone on over a year.
Arrests possible next week.

Serious charges. Thirty-year desk guy for Iran, mid-level policy.


BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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kanrok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:40 PM
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6. Oh shit!
The repukes will blame it on Clinton. After all, Clinton was alive when the spy was hired.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:39 PM
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4. On now - ARRESTS next week!
Organized "conferences" for Wolfie
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:40 PM
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5. Thanks for letting us know.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:40 PM
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7. He was organizing cleric conferences for Wolfewitz.
Martha Radditz reporting from Pentagon.


And AIPAC denied everything in a statement.

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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:48 PM
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12. Who is it????
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:50 PM
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13. Harold Rhode. n/t
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:52 PM
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15. About Rhode
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:56 PM
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18. Sounds like a lunatic
Harold Rhode is a Foreign Affairs Specialist in the Office of Net Assessment, Office of the Secretary of Defense.<1>
According to Jason Vest's September 2, 2002, article "The Men From JINSA and CSP," Harold Rhode and Andrew Marshall, from the Pentagon's Office of Net Assessment, "actively tinker with ways to re-engineer both the Iranian and Saudi Arabian governments."

In their January 26, 2004, Mother Jones article "The Lie Factory", Robert Dreyfuss and Jason Vest write:

"Called in to help organize the Iraq war-planning team was a longtime Pentagon official, Harold Rhode, a specialist on Islam who speaks Hebrew, Arabic, Turkish, and Farsi. Though Douglas Feith would not be officially confirmed until July 2001, career military and civilian officials in NESA began to watch his office with concern after Rhode set up shop in Feith's office in early January. Rhode, seen by many veteran staffers as an ideological gadfly, was officially assigned to the Pentagon's Office of Net Assessment, an in-house Pentagon think tank headed by fellow neocon Andrew Marshall. Rhode helped Feith lay down the law about the department's new anti-Iraq, and broadly anti-Arab, orientation. In one telling incident, Rhode accosted and harangued a visiting senior Arab diplomat, telling him that there would be no 'bartering in the bazaar anymore.... You're going to have to sit up and pay attention when we say so.'

"Rhode refused to be interviewed for this story, saying cryptically, 'Those who speak, pay.'

"According to insiders, Rhode worked with Feith to purge career Defense officials who weren't sufficiently enthusiastic about the muscular anti-Iraq crusade that Paul D. Wolfowitz and Feith wanted. Rhode appeared to be 'pulling people out of nooks and crannies of the Defense Intelligence Agency and other places to replace us with,' says a former analyst. 'They wanted nothing to do with the professional staff. And they wanted us the fuck out of there.'
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:55 PM
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17. Who's that?
He's the guy who organized cleric conferences? Who is he?
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:41 PM
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8. Right now the Texans are on in Houston.
I hope it still shows. Damn!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:43 PM
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9. Says its top story on Israeli news websites
Are there English-language Israeli papers?
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whalerider55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:45 PM
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11. papers
bushwatch usually posts stories from Ha'Aretz, english language paper...
i think the jerusalem times also has english language edition

whalerider55
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:51 PM
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14. thanks
this one only reports what CBS said:

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/470334.html
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:54 PM
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16. jerusalem times links to wire services stories
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:45 PM
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10. oops, wrong thread
Edited on Fri Aug-27-04 10:46 PM by Cush
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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:56 PM
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19. Notice how they are down playing the importance and the reach
of the mole. They have got their talking points for the shrub's people. The original story was a "high level" spy in the sec def office. Now it's just a secretary who organized meetings.
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blitzen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:57 PM
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20. asshole Kessler on Nightline: "Oh well, everybody spies..."
The term "spy on" is misleading....The issue here is not that they were "eyeballing us" to see what was going on--it's that they were actively determining our foreign policy for their purposes (with, of course, the more than willing help of US war profiteers)
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