im scared.

[kevin881]

The polls seem to be all trending toward bush in the last week. The GOP convention starts monday, and he will get a tiny bounce, at least.

I am starting to get very nervous that he might actually get elected.

I live in Illinois and we dont see many ads from either candidate now... does anyone have their finger on the pulse of what is happening in a battleground state?

Someone reassure me that its gonna be fine!

[HuskerDem]

1. don't be

F/911 will be released in Oct. for starters with new footage and facts. That will be controversy and news in the weeds right before the election. Reiminders once agaain how pathetic * is.

All will be well in the end.

[Fla Dem]

48. Electoral College Count more important than polls Kerry 270 Bush 259

Go to this site. Updated each time a new state poll comes out. Exellent overview of how each state currently stands.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

[Fla Dem]

49. Electoral College Count more important than polls Kerry 270 Bush 259

Go to this site. Updated each time a new state poll comes out. Exellent overview of how each state currently stands.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

[Seabiscuit]

54. These polls are BS

The pollsters are just trying to give Dubya a boost during their stupid convention.

[still_one]

2. Wait until after the republican convention

Kerry will come on hard

In addition, this spy story should break big time next week which will detract from the republican convention

[kevin881]

4. yea as well as the 1,000th US death in iraq

[Hidebo]

21. Yeah, right

Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but... , didn't he support the war?

[mourningdove92]

38. No, he did not support the war

He voted to give smirk authorization to use force AFTER all other options had been ruled out, which smirk promised to do.

Smirk, surprise, surprise, did not keep his word.

[AndyTiedye]

23. We Could be Really Hurting By Then

With the RNC media blitz keeping Kerry (and the spy scandal)
pretty much off the air for another week, he's sure to get a big bounce.
The media is killing us.

[K-W]

3. Its soooooo early.

It was nice that Kerry had a great run early. But Bush was bound to bounce back, it is far too early to get concerned. Bush is still far below good numbers for an incumbent. Yes he will get a convention bounce, but there is plenty of time left in this election.

[SoDesuKa]

10. Convention Bounce

Actually Bush may get no more of a convention bounce than Kerry did. Conventions are boring, and people don't react to them as they have in the past. The networks don't cover them.

The feared 1968 uprising in the streets won't happen. There will be huge numbers of protesters in the streets, but the cops will be deterred by all the lawyers and all the cameras. Being pigs, they will still make a lot of arrests. However, it won't be a repeat of the Chicago convention a generation ago.

Bush hasn't much room to go up. He has disappointed too many constituencies. I'd be surprised if the polls truly reflect popular attitudes.

[TrustingDog]

5. be scared.

There is no way Bush is giving up his toilet seat throne. he has all the power and cards. PNAC has worked too long for their moment in history....

[jeff30997]

7. Sad but true.

[alittlelark]

9. SOOO right, I will personally flush if need be.

The PNAC may have worked long and hard, but the POTNAD (persons of the north american diaspora) will SAVE US!!!


I hope.


Damn it sucks,

Peace, Gina

[Comadreja]

6. My straw poll so far

Washington is supposed to be swing. I live in a staunch republican district, and I've been out canvassing swing voters. Onlyone of them so far has said they have definitely decided to vote Republican. That's my straw poll, for what it's worth.

"I wear the black in mournin' for the lives that could have been, each week we lose a hundred fine young men.
And I wear it for the thousands who have died, believen' that the Lord was on their side.
I wear it for another hundred thousand who have died, believen' that we all were on their side." - Johnny Cash, from the song, "Man in Black."

[girl gone mad]

8. I'm not afraid.

He's out in November or he'll be facing impeachment.

4 more years of Bush would ruin the Republican party for at least 30 years.

[nosmokes]

11. don't be scared, but don't be complacent, either. get active!

register voters, wear a button, put a bumper sticker on your car and a sign in your yard. write a letter to the editor, send a check, volunteer some time, write some emails.

it's quite possible that whoever is elected this november could appoint 3 or 4 justices to the supreme court, which would have an effect on this nation for the next 40 or 50 years or longer. this could well be the most important few weeks of our lives. what happens in the november will impact the world in drastic measure.

please, don't be scared, be responsible.

[calimary]

14. Yes. Don't be scared. Be VIGILANT!

I ran into a woman in the neighborhood yesterday who expressed a similar fear - she was really worried. I tried to buck her up a little, and then I just said - "well, if bush steals it again, it won't be because I sat on my ass." If NOTHING else, I want to make sure I can look myself in the mirror the next morning and realize that I fought hard, and didn't stay asleep and just let 'em walk all over me. If they win this one from me, they will have had to fight awfully hard to do so. Because I'M not going to be a pushover. Nor do I intend to do ANYTHING to ease their win. If they return to OUR White House, they'll do it limping, scarred, bruised, and with all their fancy clothes torn to shreds.

And - YES, facing LIKELY impeachment.

[Swamp Rat]

18. What you said plus indictments and jail time.

I think the news of the Israeli spy in the Pentagon is not going to help Bush. I don't care what the polls say right now about the RNC bump. Folks in the CIA are preparing to take Bush&Co down and Kerry's gonna hammer the shit out of Bush in the last leg of the race.

Time to play "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" by the Beatles.

[SpaceCatMeetsMars]

30. Exactly! And I've met lots of people who feel the same.

People have this quiet determination to work for Kerry. So many people are angry at what Bush has done to the country, and they are using it in a constructive way.

[calimary]

42. Truly. Imagine the following scenario:

It's November 3rd. bush won - by another narrow margin - or at least he's claiming victory while james baker and ted olson and his other latter-day White House Plumbers are filing lawsuits challenging a narrow Kerry victory in all 50 states, and running sniveling and crying to the Supreme Court to win one more for the Fibber.

You're standing at your bathroom mirror, still sick from the night before. You look at yourself and you remember...

...that you did nothing.

You were too busy to make a phone call. Or make a donation to some Democratic candidacy, or to Kerry, for that matter. You didn't walk around with a Kerry button on your lapel that might allow you to strike up a conversation with another one of the Good Guys, or maybe refute some lying idiocy that a well-meaning but ill-informed friend had fallen for from some fast-talking swifties. You drove around with an empty back bumper on your car. You didn't write a single letter to an editor anywhere. You made no calls to CNN, sent no emails or other complaints about biased coverage to MSNBC. You sent no faxes to the NY Times or the Washington Post ombudsman's office. You even saw the Five-Star Activists' Resource Thread in Activism/Events, but never took advantage of it. You urged not a soul to stop watching the Pox "news" network. You sent not a dime to MoveOn.org or any of the other organizations making a stink, or campaign ads, or both, about what the bushies have done to this country. And on voting day, you were too busy to offer to drive someone to the polls, or encourage all your friends to go vote.

Perhaps you were so disheartened that you felt it really didn't matter. After all, you - along with all the rest of us - did witness with your own eyes and ears the sad truth about how many of America's votes didn't count in 2000. Maybe you felt bush already had a lock on it (entirely reasonable, considering the "people" we're dealing with, here), so nothing would do any good, anyway.

So you gave up and did nothing. Your discouragement and depression spoke for you, instead. Hey, it happens!!! Howard Dean recently said (or, in his case, diagnosed that) the ENTIRE bloomin' Democratic PARTY was suffering from a DEEP depression, well into bush's term.

But the fact remains, it's the morning after the election, and bush either squeaked by or got close enough to steal it. And the other fact remains - that you did NOTHING to try to prevent it.

Imagine that scenario.

HOW WOULD YOU FEEL?

Moral of the story - November 2nd is still a LONG WAY OFF. An ETERNITY in politics. THERE IS STILL TIME TO DO SOMETHING, TO MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD, TO STRIKE OUT AGAINST THE BAD GUYS, TO SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER. You may even change someone's mind for the better, or liberate someone else from their ignorance or misplaced trust.

If bush steals it again, IT WON'T BE BECAUSE I SAT ON MY ASS. Besides, it might be a golden opportunity - impeachment could be brought up again. And it would mean that you'd have the joy of helping to make the next four years the MOST miserable four years of that miserable asshole's life!

[onebigbadwulf]

12. Just wait for October surprise...

then we'll talk about being scared.

[Fovea]

13. We have an intellegence apparatus in civil war already

I predict unfathomably brutal blowback against the Chimpster in Oct.

[Swamp Rat]

19. It has already started

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2273474">PENTAGON SPY

[EstimatedProphet]

50. Why does this pull up a Microsoft page? n/t

[Swamp Rat]

53. That's weird. It won't load for me at all. No MS crap, it just doesn't

work, but it tries to load a DU page. I don't use ANYTHING microsoft on my computer. I'm using the Safari browser right now (Mac UNIX). When I first posted it using HTML it worked. Sorry for this but I don't know what happened.

[Tight_rope]

15. Stop listening to the polls...They are not scientifically proven !

[AndyTiedye]

24. The Fact That The Two Biggest Polling Organizations Have Sold Out...

...is yet another thing we have to worry about. It could help them
legitimize the theft of the election if the two best-known polls
(Gallop and Harris) both show Boosh ahead going into the election,
which they very likely will, just like when Gallop dutifully pushed
Shrub's approval to 50.0001% recently (a clear out-lier) and the talking
heads solemnly proclaimed that no President who was over 50% at that
date had ever been defeated.

[chicagojoe]

16. You don't see ads from either candidate in Illinois because

Illinois is considered a lock for Kerry. Even so, he SHOULD come here to see us, considering that we're going to help put him in the White House. Bush won't waste his time here, except for some fund-raising.
There is nothing to fear but feat itself.

Go Kerry/Edwards !!! Go Barak Obama !!!

[Name removed]

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[AndyTiedye]

25. Anyone Who Isn't Afraid Isn't Paying Attention

We are hanging by a thread.

The only thing that can save us is turnout ---
turnout the likes of which none of us have seen in our lifetimes.

Something like the way they turned out for Chavez in Venezuela...

[Swamp Rat]

20. Bush&Co is toast

Go here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2273474">PENTAGON SPY

[Nordic]

22. don't be scared, be angry

be very angry. Shout it out every chance you have that you're mad as hell and you're not gonna take it any more.

[The Ref]

35. Remember the force, young Jedi

Anger kills. Come on, remember "Return of the Jedi?" We're all Luke Skywalker on the Death Star, watching the rebel fleet be obliterated by the shield we had hoped would be knocked out by now. And Karl Rove is just purring, "feel the anger flowing through your bones..."

OK, Don't think I get all my life lessons from Star Wars. It's just that people are more familiar with the references and examples than the Jesuit exposure that Lucas, Campbell and I each had. (You did notice that Skywalker was dressed like a Jebbie, no?)

Don't like Star Wars, How about Herber: "Fear is the mind-slayer."

[Nordic]

39. you sound a little contradictory there, ref

On the one hand, anger is bad. Fear is bad too.

Okay ......

I guess they're both negative emotions.

Detachment is a wonderful thing, but the true zen mindset doesn't exactly motivate you to fight those who need to be fought.

I mean, look what happened to Tibet. They used to be vicious warriors, now they've had their asses kicked by China.

[allalone]

47. fear is a lot worse on you than anger

[Cronus Protagonist]

26. He should get a 9 point bounce after the convention

Anything less and he won't be able to carry the election. A well-liked incumbent president would be at least 10 percentage points ahead of his challenger at this time (and earlier). So Bush needs to be ten points ahead of Kerry after the convention if he's to win the election.

With all the media on their side, millions of dollars in stage production and a shallow-minded population, he could do it. The question is, can we stop him?

Swiftboat Veterans for Bush - TRUTH!!!

Lick Laura's Bush - Drop Bush Not Bombs! - FUCK BUSH
http://brainbuttons.com/home.asp?stashid=13

[anarchy1999]

27. Never, ever be "scared". That is when you lose.

Bush and his administration are nothing but fear based. So sorry, can't give any assurances, just don't succumb to fear. No if, ands or buts. go to www.blackboxvoting.org or go buy Greg Palast's book, "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy" or pick up Vincent Bugliosi's book. But never, never ever give in to fear. Also go check out www.grannyd.com Read up on Eugene Debs as well and Smedley Butler and "War is a Racket". You might feel better.

We've been fighting this fight for a long, long time. And please don't forget Ike's farewell address to the nation when he warned of the "military/industrial complex".

[Speed8098]

28. Your fears will be put to rest

As soon as chimpy tries to defend his record. I am itching forthe debates to begin. Kerry will wipe the floor with *.

The prudent thing for Kerry to do is follow in the footsteps of Jon Stewart.A week or so before the debates he should put out an ad that pits * the candidate in 2000 against the actions of * the pResident.

When it comes to flip flopping, this administration is the winner.

[The Ref]

36. Oh how true it is!

we all know how brilliant Bush's locution is.

[Zynx]

29. The SBVT card was the best one they had.

They were hoping it would knock Kerry out of contention before their convention.

Bush has no room to bounce. Kerry's bear minimum support is 45-46%. That itself means Bush will get virtually no bounce. Also, the shameless exploitation of 9/11 might get some attention and coverage and drive his numbers down. I do not fear his convention. A race has never turned on an incumbent's convention before and it won't this time.

[AngryOldDem]

31. Report from Battleground State

In Ohio, the ads are coming fast and furious, especially during the early evening dinner hour. If anything, though, I'm noticing more Bush than Kerry ads. But that may be because of the convention coming up.

Kerry has 10% of his national effort focused in Ohio. Almost every county has some kind of Kerry presence -- even diehard Republican counties have at least one Kerry staffer, which is unprecedented. (Some counties share a staffer.) My county (Montgomery) is considered to be key if Kerry is to win Ohio. The effort here has been massive, and for the most part grassroots. We are currently doing precinct walks to canvass all registered Democratic and unaffiliated voters. In some precincts, especially in the upper-class south suburbs, this has never been done before, and so far the results there are very encouraging -- as of last weekend, in one such precinct (highly GOP) the number were Kerry 46.8%, Bush 35.5%, and undecided 11.3%. I anticipate we will get some of these undecideds.

Phone banks have been up and running for weeks. We also go to festivals, fairs, and the county job center to register new voters. Volunteers report that people are enthusiastic, and are very supportive of Kerry.

Our goal is to make ourselves -- and by extension Kerry -- available and accessible to voters who are solidly in our corner as well as those who are still on the fence. Ohio Women for Kerry has an "Adopt Five" program -- find five disaffected or unsure voters, talk with them, stay with them through the campaign, and make sure that they vote on Election Day.

The county party has a monthly volunteer meeting and about 200 people came to the last one, and close to 30 showed up at the Ohio Women for Kerry meeting last week. Each time, attendance and enthusiasm grow.

I don't have a crystal ball, so I really can't give you the reassurance that you want. But take reassurance in the fact that there are many people who are HONESTLY working hard for John Kerry, and are doing all we can to get him elected.

That's all I can tell you right now, because I gotta go -- down to Kerry HQ! :hi:

[a kennedy]

34. Thank you, thank you thank you AngryOldDem...

wow, you REALLY ARE doing your part, so inspiring. I've been going door to door to all the union member households in our area to hand out fact sheets on how Kerry is helping working families, and most are saying they'll vote for JK.

[The Ref]

37. No, Kerry is saving dough

Also, people, don't forget that Kerry is not running ads. Bush is burning off $100 million of leftover primary funds which he has to use or lose by the convention. Kerry is not runnning any ads, except where the Swifty ads are being run, and even then very few. Right now, most of the Kerry ads you are seeing are from PACs.

[onecitizen]

32. Hi Kevin.......

I get nervous sometimes too. BUT we have to do our job. That means you too. Start talking(or continue talking) to anyone you know and make sure they go vote. Offer to take people to the polls if you can. Look, if everyone who is Dem or Dem leaning, votes, we will win. At least if it's legal and they don't cheat again. There are more of us than them. I'm in a battleground state that is trending for bush. Why is that? I have no idea. In my city at least, Kerry seems to be ahead. We're mostly a rural state though and that's where bush gets most of his support. Plus, people use their religion as a crutch for everything here including politics. And they think bush is a godly man. Sheesh. Sad really.

When I get down about all this, I take a short break. I'll watch a movie or listen to music. Upbeat music though and not something sad. :-) Then I can come back and focus again.

Kevin, just do what you can do and try not to get down about things. The best men will win. The best men are Kerry and Edwards.

Oh, one other thing. Know your facts. Know the difference between Kerry and bush. Encourage people not to vote against their own interests. Point out things like the overtime issue, the insurance issue, the tax issue, the Soc. Sec. issue, the human rights issue, the pre-emption issue, the JOBS issue, the economy, the education issue and TAX issue. Point out that they may have gotten a $300 check in the mail but all of their other taxes have gone up (state and city taxes). We have more ammunition than we EVER had. We need to load and lock and let it rip!

:headbang: :hug:

[kevin881]

40. Believe men, Ive been pro-active...

Since before the Iraq war, post 911, I have been shouting to the world how corrupt the BC administration is. Im so overly informed on the BC policies that anyone who even thinks of giving BC a positive comment in my presence gets their statement verbally dissected.

I have a Kerry bumpersticker on my car, a sign in my window, and I work out in a Kerry tshirt.

I am trying to get through, and have personally gotten 8 people to register to vote for the 1st time. I am driving them over to the polling place on the 2nd, so they dont feel uncomfortable going on their own (to make sure they get there, actually).

Im doing my best, but this damn GW Bush propaganda machine is hard to compete with.

[calimary]

43. Excellent! Kevin, you really should not be terribly scared, because

it sounds like you are giving your all. That's as far as we individual civilians can go. We do what WE can. The fact that you are NOT sitting on your ass waiting for it all to happen at you tells me you will have a clean conscience on November 3rd, regardless of the outcome.

By the way, Kevin, I did NOT mean to get too down on you, or to scold you. Not at all. Please forgive me if I sounded or seemed a little harsh or overbearing. I'm just really getting ADAMANT about this.

EYES ON THE PRIZE, GUYS.

EYES ON THE PRIZE.

Give it your all.
And you can stand tall.

And HEY, YOU!
Welcome to DU!

Man - all this rhyming! I know... my feet are Longfellows...

[kevin881]

44. :)

Didnt think you were coming down on me at all. :)

[robcon]

33. The election will be decided by the debates, IMO

It will be close enough that the "winner" of the deabtes will probably win the election. (It's also possible, of course, that "events" will decide the election either way.)

[greekspeak]

41. Try not to let fear be the emotion you tap right now

It is hard. I do not remember another election with so much dualistic, good v evil fervor. The writer of the Apocalypse has nothing on this battle. Just remember that the media whores for Shrub, they issue spun polls, and the election is STILL a dead heat. Try to direct your fear toward more positive outlets, like letter writing

[leesa]

45. The polls are part of the RW propaganda. Remember, they are put our by

the same pro-right wing propaganda teams that shill for Bush in the mainstream media. Why would you fully doubt their veracity telling the news but believe their bogus polls?

[allalone]

46. oh please the polls

You can get a poll to say anything you want. If you stand outside the republicans women's club and wait for the lunching ladies to come out, you will find a big boost for bush. btw, I'm not scared, I'm angry!

[Cleita]

51. I think there is a big scandal bomb that's going to drop on

Bush and the Republicans after the convention and before the election. It's going to be so big that even the Goebbels press isn't going to be able to cover it up. Why do I think so? Bush has made so many enemies world wide as well as at home that I'm almost certain someone has something big that they are saving for the right time.

[TriMetFan]

52. Don't be scared

go out and get people to vote. I just got my little brother and his wife (both in their 20's) to register to vote. I just told them, that if Bush won there could be a good chance that he my bother could be drafted and that put the fire under their ass's. My sister in-law says that they even put up Kerry lawn signs.:evilgrin: Oh and they live in Dallas TX. Also we still have 60+ days before the election and a lot can happen. They still have to debate unless Bush chickens out, cause he knows Kerry will :spank: his ass and make him look dumber then he already is.

[Selwynn]

55. I've always though kerry to be an underdog, and I still do

between the idiocy of americans, to theft of elections, to terrorism scams, I always thought Bush was likely to be reelected.