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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 12:25 PM
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40% military unit have developed malignancies in 16 months (DU)

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/082504Moret/082504moret.html

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Last week the American Free Press dropped a "dirty bomb" on the Pentagon by reporting that eight out of 20 men who served in one unit in the 2003 U.S. military offensive in Iraq now have malignancies. That means that 40 percent of the soldiers in that unit have developed malignancies in just 16 months.

Since these soldiers were exposed to vaccines and depleted uranium (DU) only, this is strong evidence for researchers and scientists working on this issue, that DU is the definitive cause of Gulf War Syndrome. Vaccines are not known to cause cancer. One of the first published researchers on Gulf War Syndrome, who also served in 1991 in Iraq, Dr. Andras Korényi-Both, is in agreement with Barbara Goodno from the Department of Defense's Deployment Health Support Directorate, that in this war soldiers were not exposed to chemicals, pesticides, bioagents or other suspect causes this time to confuse the issue.

This powerful new evidence is blowing holes in the cover-up perpetrated by the Pentagon and three presidential administrations ever since DU was first used in 1991 in the Persian Gulf War. Fourteen years after the introduction of DU on the battlefield in 1991, the long-term effects have revealed that DU is a death sentence and very nasty stuff.

Scientists studying the biological effects of uranium in the 1960s reported that it targets the DNA. Marion Fulk, a nuclear physical chemist retired from the Livermore Nuclear Weapons Lab and formerly involved with the Manhattan Project, interprets the new and rapid malignancies in soldiers from the 2003 war as "spectacular . . . and a matter of concern."
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"targets the DNA"

DU is a crime against humanity

imprison the bushgang
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 12:35 PM
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1. DU is a weapon of mass destruction
The level of censure associated with weapons of mass destruction is directly contingent upon who is using them.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 01:46 PM
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7. DU ammo is "dirty bullets"
Uranium doesn't get depleted that quickly.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 02:58 PM
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18. it's "depleted" in the sense that the more radioactive isotopes...
Edited on Sat Aug-28-04 02:58 PM by mike_c
...have been removed, e.g. U235. That's an industrial process, not natural radioactive decay. In other words, "depleted" from an atomic weapons grade enrichment perspective. DU is still mildly radioactive even if it is mostly the more stable U238 isotope, but it is also a highly toxic metal when taken internally, especially as a aerosol after cooking off of armor-piercing rounds.
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 06:29 PM
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28. The problem with U238 if ingested or inhaled
is that it is primarily an alpha emitter (with beta emissions further down the chain) AFAIK. This kind of radiation is less harmful than gamma rays if one is exposed to it externally (a sheet of paper stops it), but once inside the body an alpha emitter can do horrific damage precisely because it interacts much more readily than either beta or gamma radiation.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 04:51 PM
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23. The UN considers DU to be a WMD
The U.S. attempted to keep depleted uranium off the agenda of the UN Sub-Commission on Protection and Promotion of Human Rights but the effort was defeated. In a vote of 21 - 2, the Sub-Commission clearly decided that depleted uranuim weaponry qualified as weapons of mass destruction and a study was authorized on the topic.

Subcommission on the Promotion and Protection of Human Rights - 16 August 2001

"Concerning weapons, the Subcommission, by a show of hands vote of 21 in favour
and 2 against, approved a decision that asked Subcommission Expert Y.K.J. Yeung
Sik Yuen to prepare a paper on human rights and weapons of mass destruction. In
the report, he would assess the utility, scope and structure of a study on the real and
potential dangers to the effective enjoyment of human rights posed by the testing,
production, storage, transfer, trafficking, or use of weapons of mass destruction with
indiscriminate effect, or of a nature to cause superfluous injury or unnecessary
suffering, including the use of weaponry containing depleted uranium.


http://www.unhchr.ch/huridocda/huridoca.nsf/2848af408d01ec0ac1256609004e770b/ee9b91fb792e5393c1256ab800402eb1?OpenDocument
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 12:38 PM
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2. It absolutely is a crime against humanity, a war crime too
Edited on Sat Aug-28-04 12:44 PM by Eloriel
Thanks for this article.

Edited to add: It is a DEVASTATING article:

Just 467 U.S. personnel were wounded in the three-week Persian Gulf War in 1990-1991. Out of 580,400 soldiers who served in Gulf War I, 11,000 are dead, and by 2000 there were 325,000 on permanent medical disability. This astounding number of disabled vets means that a decade later, 56 percent of those soldiers who served now have medical problems.

The number of disabled vets reported up to 2000 has been increasing by 43,000 every year. Brad Flohr of the Department of Veterans Affairs told American Free Press that he believes there are more disabled vets now than even after World War II.

They Brought It Home

Not only were soldiers exposed to DU on and off the battlefields, but they brought it home. DU in the semen of soldiers internally contaminated their wives, partners and girlfriends. Tragically, some women in their 20s and 30s who were sexual partners of exposed soldiers developed endometriosis and were forced to have hysterectomies because of health problems.

In a group of 251 soldiers from a study group in Mississippi who had all had normal babies before the Gulf War, 67 percent of their post-war babies were born with severe birth defects. They were born with missing legs, arms, organs or eyes or had immune system and blood diseases. In some veterans' families now, the only normal or healthy members of the family are the children born before the war.

--- more at the link --
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 12:39 PM
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3. horrible
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Soldiers developing malignancies so quickly since 2003 can be expected to develop multiple cancers from independent causes. This phenomenon has been reported by doctors in hospitals treating civilians following NATO bombing with DU in Yugoslavia in 1998-1999 and the U.S. military invasion of Iraq using DU for the first time in 1991. Medical experts report that this phenomenon of multiple malignancies from unrelated causes has been unknown until now and is a new syndrome associated with internal DU exposure.

Just 467 U.S. personnel were wounded in the three-week Persian Gulf War in 1990-1991. Out of 580,400 soldiers who served in Gulf War I, 11,000 are dead, and by 2000 there were 325,000 on permanent medical disability. This astounding number of disabled vets means that a decade later, 56 percent of those soldiers who served now have medical problems.

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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 12:46 PM
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4. I am so sick of "coverups!"
:grr: :grr: :grr:

I listened and watched news on a daily basis during Desert Storm; I don't remember them even mentioning the use of DU. How would we have reacted if the nightly news had been reporting our use of low-level nukes?

And why aren't we hearing about the extended consequences of our use of DU, from both Gulf I and II?

Is this reaching mainstream media, and the masses? How many of those war-happy repub voters would want their kids in the military if they heard about the consequences of dirty bombs on a daily basis?
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 12:58 PM
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5. This is not discussed at all in the medical community
I recently spoke to the physician I work with about this. He is a bone marrow transplanter and hematologist who travels to conferences all around the world and he had never heard of it. I found that to be amazing since, like agent orange, we will be trying to save these people whose genes have been mutated by these toxins
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 02:00 PM
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9. Vetwife said that VA doctors are now quietly building files on DU
She mentioned it in a thread earlier this week.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 02:11 PM
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10. "quietly building files"
yeah we wouldn't want to get too loud about it would we? I was in "Desert Storm I" on a navy ship off the coast of Kuwait and,a few years after, I was sitting watching the news when they started a story on Gulf War Syndrome. I told myself that this couldnt happen to me because I was out in the ocean and no where near this depleted uranium. No sooner did this thought breeze through my mind when I looked at the tv and saw that they were interviewing a sailor from my very ship who had it!!! I was floored!! I have been following the DU situation ever since with great anger. :grr: :grr:
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 02:27 PM
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11. She's a frequent caller on the Guy James Show -- streaming now
Join the military. Be a guinea pig.
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Columbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 02:37 PM
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12. That seems to prove more than DU may not be the cause then
If your fellow sailor said he exhibited symptoms without being near any DU.

Seems to point more to the combination of vaccines that everyone received in theater than anything else.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 02:50 PM
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15. that is exactly what I thought at the time..
Edited on Sat Aug-28-04 02:50 PM by jonnyblitz
that part of the story sort of faded a bit and the DU is now the primary cause you hear about WHEN you hear about it
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Columbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 02:53 PM
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17. Personally
I think it is the combination of the anthrax and smallpox vaccines and the malaria prophylaxis with a healthy dosage of PTSD and psychsomasis.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 03:06 PM
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19. as a leading petty officer..
I was tasked with making sure the guys in my division took their "little white pill" at morning muster before the work day began. I was required to observe them swallow the pills while they stood in formation. I can't remember, for the life of me, what those pills were, I imagine one of the items you mentioned in your post.
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Columbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 03:16 PM
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20. That was most likely for Malaria
Doxycycline, chloroquine, or mefloquine.

Mefloquine has been linked to various nervous disorders including depression, hallucinations, and suicide.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 06:18 PM
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27. When stationed in Africa, we avoided the quinine pills.
Nasty stuff. Instead we'd get our quinine through gin and tonic. It may not have prevented malaria, but after a few drinks, it didn't matter.

If it was DU that is causing the tumors, the government will wait out the victims, knowing time is on the government's side.
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Columbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 02:37 PM
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13. doubletap
Edited on Sat Aug-28-04 02:39 PM by Columbia
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 01:33 AM
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35. why would anyone go into the American army and get cancer?
better to sit in jail for a year or be a conscientious objector that
a lifetime of cancer from the depleted uranium the pentagon uses.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 05:37 PM
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 01:01 PM
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6. just go to google and look up Doug Rokke.
n/t

There are a couple of other links I have, I just don't have time to find them right now. Google depleted uranium, you'll find more than you ever want to know.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 08:49 AM
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31. does anyone have links to info about anthrax vaccine?
my daughters' boyfriend served last yr. in Kuwait (right before shock and awe) He was a Hummer mechanic. He is only 24 and has been having some health issues: received an anthrax vaccine before going over.

This is criminal. Bu$h is killing our kids...
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 01:53 PM
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8. This article needs to be sent to *EVERY* Vet organization, and
distributed to every VFW and related organizations that exist.

If Vets truly "support our troops", they should be getting on this like white on rice!

Kanary
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 02:38 PM
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14. I asked point blank the guy in Washington Don Rosenblum if
Edited on Sat Aug-28-04 02:41 PM by vetwife
they were keeping a register and he said yes. He writes the newsletters for environmental toxins newsletters and they have a register for agent oragne victims and he said they have started a register on these two wars as well on the toxins. He works for VA headquarters in D.C.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 02:53 PM
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16. you are amazing.
I am sorry I keep missing you on the radio..damn. thanks for what you do! :hug:
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 03:26 PM
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21. I'm glad you did that. This *still* needs to be sent to all Vet groups
Vets themselves need to get on this en mass.

Kanary
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 03:26 PM
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22. I'm glad you did that. This *still* needs to be sent to all Vet groups
Vets themselves need to get on this en mass.

Kanary
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renegade000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 05:53 PM
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25. well technically
all ionizing radiation "targets the DNA"
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 05:55 PM
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26. We need to keep on our government and
get it to:

stop supporting non-democratic nations and groups with money and weapons,

and ban the use of DU ordnance, cluster bombs, and land mines.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 05:56 AM
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29. Kick!
:kick:
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 06:18 AM
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30. Only eight out of twenty? If the truth were indeed known
the acrimony of those twenty would be much higher. Many are in fear of speaking out.
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Bruce McAuley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:47 AM
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32. This could be the biggest story since Agent Orange...
It is truly scary!
Now I've gotta worry about the Yakima Firing Range as the greatest source of nuclear pollution in the state, rather than Hanford.
Them poor saps who volunteered for the military are screwed, they just don't know it yet.
Walking dead.

Bruce
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:28 AM
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33. Tin foil hat on here but I believe DU is the main reason for this
criminal war. The son is finishing up the cover up and the dirty work of the father. Saddam had been gathering info, research etc and attempting to be heard about this issue for years. There exists all sorts of evidence indicting the lethalness of exposure to DU, cancer rates, birth defects etc, in both US soldiers who were exposed as well as Iraqi civilians.
It's why the DU which would be a byproduct of a nuclear power plant in Iran is an issue to our government. If it's harmless, as the Pentegon is fond of saying, why kick up a fuss about it? Because they know of it's effect. It's worse than Agent Orange.
There are pictures on the internet showing birth defects never seen before in Iraqi babies who were born near places where DU exposure was possible.
In addition, the Dutch government refused to send peacekeeping troops to places where weapons employing DU had been used.
DU is the real reason for this war, it's why they were concerned about documents in Iraq or documents leaving Iraq and the oil is just a bonus imo.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:30 AM
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34. So is HIV/AIDS
Biological terror has no bounds when a primary goal of society is to create the most deploreable weaponary intended for domination.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 02:31 AM
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36. The reality is Service in the Army is Bad News
How long can we keep killing off our soldiers


by our own weapons
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