Horrifying. Bush's RIGHT WING CONNECTIONS...

[revree]

Hope this is not a dupe. 33 right wingers we all must be on the watch for. THEY ARE DANGEROUS FASCISTS.

Maureen Farrell kicks ass.

http://www.buzzflash.com/farrell/04/08/far04029.html

[madfloridian]

1. Good buddies, Falwell and Moon

Dangerous duo.

[7th_Sephiroth]

4. verry horrorfying

thise two even spook me

[mark11727]

5. Isn't ONE of them supposed to go to hell...?

[Kimber Scott]

2. Scary stuff, but they are not the Majority.

Roy Moore got the boot, and so will the rest of these zealots.

[wurzel]

3. Only today on McLaughlin Mort Zuckerman said:

Kerry was ONLY in Vietnam for four months. And Kerry applied for swiftboat duty in the belief he would not go to Vietnam. The lies spread by our media go on and on and on. Sorry posted this on wrong post. But I'll leave it on anyway.

[Minstrel Boy]

6. People ought to know about the Christian reconstructionists

and be scared shitless by whose ears these maniacs have, and how close they are to the seats of power.

Read what Gary North said, 20 years ago:

"So let us be blunt about it: we must use the doctrine of religious liberty to gain independence for Christian schools until we train up a generation of people who know that there is no religious neutrality, no neutral law, no neutral education, and no neutral civil government. Then they will get busy in constructing a Bible-based social, political and religious order which finally denies the religious liberty of the enemies of God."
http://www.serve.com/thibodep/cr/liberty.htm

How far would they take it? Farther than a sane person should be expected to imagine. North again:

"The question eventually must be raised: Is it a criminal offense to take the name of the Lord in vain? When people curse their parents, it unquestionably is a capital crime (Ex. 21:17). The son or daughter is under the lawful jurisdiction of the family. The integrity of the family must be maintained by the threat of death. Clearly, cursing God (blasphemy) is a comparable crime, and is therefore a capital crime (Lev. 24:16)."
http://www.serve.com/thibodep/cr/cursing.htm

"The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit publicly to the eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His Church's public marks of the covenant--baptism and holy communion--must be denied citizenship, just as they were in ancient Israel."
http://www.serve.com/thibodep/cr/goal.htm

[JNelson6563]

8. Zowie MB!!

That is terrifying! Theocracy! That is what they are working toward.

Julie

[madfloridian]

10. Gain control: Christian school vouchers....read these articles from FL

Christian schools in Florida have been getting public school money, taking it from the public schools who need it desperately. My tax money is going to private Christian schools which are not held accountable.

http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040806/NEWS/408060356/1039/last14days

SNIP..."Audra Curts-Whann, director of finance for Polk schools, said that the combined loss of students between McKay and CTC scholarships is equal to a loss of $1.75 million in revenue.

"That's how much our funding was reduced for those things paid out elsewhere."

SNIP..."`GREAT HELP'

Lakeland Christian School is the largest private school accepting vouchers in Polk County. According to the Department of Education, the school had almost 900 students last year. But it had only 14 on McKay scholarships and 11 students on CTC scholarships last year.

Sligh is supportive of the CTC scholarships, which Florida PRIDE of Tampa doles out in Polk County.

"It's been a great help to the families," he said. "It's been very suited to their needs."

CTC scholarships are given to students who qualify for free and reduced-price lunches. Lakeland Christian receives about $3,500 per CTC student. The school's tuition ranges from $4,750 for kindergartners to $5,650 for high school students...."
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

This voucher law was held unconstitutional, but payments continue until someone does something about it. Pathetic.
http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040817/NEWS/408170387/1004
SNIP..."TALLAHASSEE -- Florida's original voucher law was declared unconstitutional Monday by a state appeals court because it lets students from failing public schools attend private religious schools at taxpayer expense.

The 2-1 decision by the 1st District Court of Appeal upholds an August 2002 ruling by a trial judge who said the law violates a provision of the state constitution that bans the use of tax dollars on religious schools...."

[Ladyhawk]

13. I went to fundy school from second to twelfth grade.

Most people I know never made it out of fundamentalism. No one made it out unscathed.

[madfloridian]

18. The ones I taught who were transfers from a Christian school.....

in this area had some problems in public school. They often returned to the private school. I was raised in fundamentalism, Southern Baptist style. I taught some of the leaders of this extreme SBC takeover. Only I did not know then what was going on.

My parents were open-minded people who taught us to think for ourselves, but I still was a very snotty young person in many ways.
I thought I was morally superior during my early teens because I was "saved." And it all seemed ok, not at all strange that we believed we had a lock on heaven.

I got over it, and finally left the church over the Iraq war. Hubby and I both did. We will find another.

Most people in the SBC churches do not even realize what has happened. We are having a big split here though. One of the largest churches in the city has split along moderate/conservative lines.....in other words Bush has even divided the churches. The conservative bunch do not approve of women working outside the home, and they support the war on terror (meaning Islam).

My dad was one of the first deacons in that church in the 60s. My family were charter members. They are deceased, but it would break my mom and dad's hearts today to see what has happened.

[EST]

15. Certainly goes a long way toward explaining

why it is that we have the enemies we do. Of course, cause and effect is perhaps a bit too scientifically rigid for this group.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

7. All of them are Hitlers!

:puke:

[alfredo]

9. You know that there is a more than casual relationship between

the Reconstructionist and the voting machine companies.

[starroute]

11. The Council for National Policy are the ones who freak me out

I only got onto them recently, when I Googled the name of Swiftboat Liars funder Robert J. Perry and found he was a member, but there are others here at DU who've been following them for a while. They're a sort of umbrella group for most of these other extreme rightists -- they had one of their regular meetings just this week -- and just knowing who is conspiring with whom is enough to curl your hair.

See:
http://geocities.com/ck4829/anticnp.html
http://watch.pair.com/cnp.html
http://www.seekgod.ca/topiccnp.htm

[ck4829]

24. The 1st one is my site

Thanks for looking it up, people need to know about about this group.

[Star]

12. I posted this on another thread,

but I'll put it here, too. Revree, this is the cast of characters!



Completed AMERICAN FUNDAMENTALISTS painting with artist Joel Pelletier, 5/17/04



FOUNDERS
1. John Winthrop
2. John Edward Darby
3. Calvin
4. R. J. Rushdoony
5. Francis Schaeffer
6. Leo Strauss
7. Adolph Coors

MEDIA
8. Robert Novak
9. L. Brent Bozell (CNSnews.com)
10. Joseph Farah (WorldNetDaily)
11. Christopher Ruddy (NewsMax.com)
12. David Horowitz
13. Sean Hannity (Fox News)
14. Anne Coulter
15. Rush Limbaugh
16. Marvin Olasky
17. Pat Buchanan
18. Bill O'Reilly
19. Joe Scarborough
20. Rupert Murdoch
21. Roger Ailes (Fox News)
22. Hal Lindsey

MULLAHS
23. Rexella Van Impe
24. Jack Van Impe
25. Gene Scott
26. Hak Ja Han Moon
27. Sun Myung Moon
28. Bob Jones III
29. Billy Graham
30. Franklin Graham
31. Paul Crouch
32. D. James Kennedy
33. Jan Crouch
34. Pat Robertson
35. Jerry Falwell
36. James Dobson

JUDICIARY
37. Roy Moore
38. William Renquist
39. Antony Scalia
40. Clarence Thomas

MILITARY
41. William Boykin
42. Oliver North
43. Colin Powell
GOVERNMENT
44. George W Bush
45. Dick Cheney
46. Richard Pearl
47. Paul Wolfowitz
48. Karl Rove
49. Tom Delay
50. Donald Rumsfeld
51. Condi Rice
52. George Bush Sr.
53. Barbara Bush

POLITICOS
54. David Frum
55. Howard Phillips
56. Grover Norquist
57. Alan Keyes
58. Ted Olson
59. Trent Lott
60. Rick Santorum
61. Ronald Reagan
62. Nancy Reagan
63. Jeb Bush
64. Ralph Reed
65. Dennis Hastert
66. Ken Starr
67. William Bennett
68. Ed Meese
69. Bill Frist
70. Dick Armey
71. James Watt
72. Zell Miller
73. Chuck Colson
74. Newt Gingrich
75. Roberta Combs (Christian Coalition)
76. Tom Ridge
77. John Ashcroft

ACTIVISTS
78. Gary North
79. Donald Wildmon
80. John Whitehead (Rutherford Institute)
81. David Barton (Wallbuilders)
82. Randall Terry (Operation Rescue)
83. Beverly Lahaye
84. Tim Lahaye
85. Armstrong Williams
86. Phyllis Shafly
87. Andrea Sheldon-Lafferty
88. Lou Sheldon
89. Bill McCartney (Promise Keepers)
90. H. L. "Bill" Richardson
91. Gary Demar
92. Gary Bauer
93. Robert L. Simonds
94. Paul Weyrich (Heritage Foundation)

MONEY
95. Joseph Coors
96. William Coors
97. Jeffery Coors
98. Holly Coors
99. Peter Coors
100. Adolph Coors IV
101. James Leinenger
102. Tom Hicks (Clear Channel)
103. Helen Walton (Wal Mart, Sam's Club)
104. Elsa Prince
105. Rich DeVos
106. Howard Ahmanson Jr.
107. Ken Lay
108. Tom Monaghan
109. Richard A. Viguerie
110. Arthur Finkelstein
111. Stuart Epperson
112. Edward Atsinger, Jr.
113. Roberta Green Ahmanson
114. Robert Hurtt
115. Richard Mellon Scaife

CELEBRITIES
116. Charlton Heston
117. Mel Gibson
118. Carman

EVILDOERS
119. Saddam Hussein
120. Osama Bin Laden
121. Kim Il Jong
121. Yassir Arafat

http://www.joelp.com/americanfundamentalists/

http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheDespoilingOfAmerica.htm

[BeHereNow]

20. LOVE THIS SITE!

I happened upon the other thread you shared
this link on- I went to the web site and turns
out the artist is in my area- I actually have worked
with one of the musicians who has worked with him.
I loved reading about his view of art and the artist.
It was like reading my own thoughts and journals
on the subject.
I want to contact him and see if I can
arrange a presentation of the work for
a group of high school visual artists that I am
involved with.
Thanks so much for sharing the site!
BHN

[Pallas180]

29. nice work -

must have taken forever....wow -

[DemBones DemBones]

14. Yikes! These guys need a LOT of tin foil:

from a cited article

http://www.publiceye.org/magazine/v08n1/chrisre3.html


"One aspect of Reconstructionism's appeal to the Christian Right is that it provides a unifying framework for conspiracy theories. Gary North explains that: "There is one conspiracy, Satan's, and ultimately it must fail. Satan's supernatural conspiracy is the conspiracy; all other visible conspiracies are merely outworkings of this supernatural conspiracy." Pat Robertson makes a similar argument in his book The New World Order, which all new members of Robertson's Christian Coalition receive. "

"R. J. Rushdoony states that "The view of history as conspiracy. . .is a basic aspect of the perspective of orthodox Christianity." A conspiratorial view of history is a consistent ingredient of Christian Right ideology in the United States, and is often used to explain the failure of conservative Christian denominations with millennial ambitions to achieve or sustain political power. The blame for this is most often assigned to the Masons, particularly an 18th-century Masonic group called the Illuminati, and, ultimately, to Satan. "


But are they LIHOP or MIHOP?

[EST]

17. The reason Bushco dropped the steel tariffs

foil gettin' scarce.

[PaDUer]

16. No surprise..

the repukes have been working on this since the day the moron did his fake swearing in!

[EST]

19. It appears the process,

or at least the enabling part of it, has been in place a bit longer than that.
Lets see how this works out in simplistic terms. We end up with half the world a theocratic christian autocracy, the other half islamist theocracy, we all go to war that lasts forever. We have highly paid, highly motivated, mercenaries. They have highly motivated, highly rewarded terrorists. High technology on both sides, cold cash war. Our job is to produce supplies or be targets. Everyone is happy, feels useful, we all have the guarantee of going to the heaven of our choice. What the fuck is wrong with this picture?

[DemBones DemBones]

21. Everything! War may be profitable but it

doesn't have anything else going for it. Unless you support it as a means of population reduction, which I'd guess a lot of these folks do. Poppy Bush allegedly has referred to citizens as "fodder units." What a prince of a guy!

[Karenina]

22. Population reduction

is a stated goal of PNAC. :scared:

[in_cog_ni_to]

23. Oh, man....this is scary..

The entire article made my blood run cold, but THIS


The Congressional Accountability for Judicial Activism Act," (HR 3920) "to allow Congress to reverse the judgments of the United States Supreme Court";


:scared:

[Citizen Daryl]

25. Fundamentalist for 8 years, managed Christian bookstore for 5.

I'm quite familiar with most of the names on this list. Some of them are extremely dangerous people who don't fuck around.

[psychopomp]

26. This also goes under "know your enemy"

It is an enormous web of far right-wingers that we have to deal with in this country, intellectually and otherwise.

[nolabels]

30. Who operate with out asking a question (which they use as their strength)

This is where rhetoric comes in, the choir sings and a pulpit with a handful of jests, pontificate weak truisms that need questioned.

Comment by Jay Bostrom posted on Thursday, August 12 at 04:02 PM
Do you find "morality" to be subjective? Or, what about a highly moralistic term such as: "patriot"? Do you believe there is a need for operational definitions of these concepts? Why?

I've been listening to professors in the school of education try to define what a "moral" teacher is. They claim that one can be outlined by "virtue theory," and that an operational definition is necessary.
(snip)
Comment by Sally posted on Thursday, August 19 at 04:54 PM
Morality is subjective. It originates within the individual as agent. Morality is intuitive and arises out of conscience--individual conscience--which we seem to be born with. Morality is doing the right thing, even when it is not in our own self-interest. Knowing what is right is a function of one's conscience.Internally people suffer.
A human being's main concern consists in fulfilling a meaning. But we cannot do this alone. For this we need others and possibility of self-transcendence.
How do we act? confronts us everywhere.
It is a moral truism that no one has the right to do wrong, not even if the wrong has been done to them. After all, not every abused child grows up to abuse others, for example. We have free choice and freedom within the undeniable limitations and conditions of human life. Within the limitation of death we are still free to choose how we will act at any moment.
(snip)
http://blog.zmag.org/index.php/weblog/comments/38/

[DemBones DemBones]

27. This topic is one we all must study -- our survival depends on

combatting these extremists.

We may laugh at them, but they are deadly serious in their intentions.

[EST]

28. Let's take a look at the above thoughts--

Between 6 and7 billion people in the world. With the difficulties in achieving an accurate census in a big portion of the world, let's use the 7 billion figure: it's a little easier to work with and is still in the right order of magnitude.
A twenty percent reduction in world population, while ignoring normal births and deaths, in five years, means you gotta kill 1.4 billion. That's fourteen hundred million. Five year target means you gotta kill almost 300 million a year. That's almost a million people a day somebody has to bury. Gonna be a hell of a lot of fly food available. Something like 2500 - 757 airliners crashing each day, fully loaded! Three hundred-911s every day! Jeezus God, these people are just frippin' crazy!!