Wanna know where today's Fascism came from? Look here

[Eloriel]

Someone else posted this link in another thread (Pallas perhaps??) and I regret that I didn't note who or even which thread. I finally got around to reading it earlier this evening, and have been very sobered by it, even though a very large proportion of the content is NOT new information to me. It's just sobering to see it all in one place. And, there are even details missing, such as Operation Paperclip (alluded to in the document), Operation Gladio (not specific to U.S. but explains a LOT about Italy! <g> ), and much more. Various DU threads have gone into some of these details and I can post some links to more resources on this important subject if anyone is interested.

It's a long read, but well worth it. It's a reasonably good overview from "there" (America's initial flirtation with fascism via early 20th Century industrialists' support of Hitler) to "here," where we are today. I think it's an extremely important read, EVEN for those who, like me, aren't new to this subject but ESPECIALLY for those who ARE new to the whole concept of 21st Century Fascism right here in the good ole U.S. of A.

Please read it. You won't be sorry.

George W. Bush, The Neocons, & The Nazis: Ties That Bind
By Glen Yeadon
Aug 22, 2004, 23:41
http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_11159.shtml

I'd probably have to read the whole thing again to pick out the best 4 grafs to quote, and I can't do that tonight. So I'll just select the opening graf:

There are numerous connections between the Bush family and the Nazis. Moreover, the philosophy of the neocons within the Bush administration has already been connected with fascism. However, no article has attempted to present an overview of the fascist connections within the Bush administration.

-- MUCH, much more at link --

[revree]

1. I am writing a book about Mae Brussell

the conspiracy theorist who wrote about the rise of fascism and Nazis operating in America. Go to www.maebrussell.com and read some of her stuff. She predicted the presidency of GW Bush Sr. and died in 1988, but also predicted that Arnold Schwarzenegger was being groomed for political office (this way back in 1980's!!!!) and that stolen elections were going to become common...

Also check http://www.buzzflash.com/farrell/04/08/far04029.html. Maureen Farrell is awesome and these right wingers are dangerous, many with connections to fascist groups.

[Eloriel]

4. Yep, she was amazing. I have a few of her things

bookmarked. Very amazing woman. A book sounds like a GREAT idea. Good luck!

[bobthedrummer]

30. Here is an unpublished Mae Brussell article on MH CHAOS concentrating

on the music scene and the promotion of dangerous drugs and dirty tricks including wetwork-political murders for which there is no statute of limitations in the United States--nor any arrests of suspects due to abuse of the national security classification system imo and life experience.

Operation CHAOS by
Mae Brussell, unpublished.
(from 1976)
http://www.maebrussell.com/Mae%20Brussell%20Articles/Operation%20Chaos.html

Other MH CHAOS links
http://www.cia-on-campus.org/surveil/chaos.html

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/CIA/CensorsBooks_SecretsCIA.html

[NashVegas]

36. Regarding the Music Scene

I'm sorry, I just don't buy that as being anything other than paranoia. Having extensive experience with both drugs and the music industry, I feel I can state with some confidence that most of the people in it, in some way or another, have a chip loose. For some people there are sacrifices that come with the ability to tap into one's inner creativity and, as Mick Jagger sang, "stick my pen in my heart and spill it all over the stage." It leaves some vulnerable in ways that so-called "normal" people can't imagine. Drugs are their salve and bane.

[bobthedrummer]

38. I was the drummer in that tragic Milwaukee band, Clockwork Orange

circa 1970. I have experienced what I post about, I'm not a bullshitter nor know-it-all.

There are the social networks of folks connected to that era. In Madison, in Chicago, in Saint Paul, in Des Moines...

On edit: actually there is no disputing the illegal suppression of political dissidents here in the USA by ALL the resources of the US government-this included assassination in the 1960's and early 70's.

I've been shot at 7 times as an American citizen in the US.

[havocmom]

2. Thanks for the post. Saving it for tomorrow when I have some energy

looks like a mighty good read

[uhhuh]

3. Bookmarked!!

Thank You!!

I will have to read the whole thing later.

[Pallas180]

5. Yup Eloriel, it was me. Glen Yeadon's history is like WOW. Eye opening.

will find the original's about the oil barons and their genetic
tampering called "Eugenics" also known, in their case, as euthanizing
people who they didn't think were good enough to live.

Perhpas an explanation why Texas had the highest rate of executions
while dumbass dubya was governor.

If they had done to him, what they did to many other children, the
country wouldn't be suffering now.

then there's the Nazi/FAscism thread, too.

And why didn't the media, the "free" media in this country tell us
any of the Nazi history before Bush 1 and then 2 got anywere near
running for an elected office?

The CIA brags almost all of the media has been connected to them since the early 1900's.

Plutonian.

Now the struggle I think is will the Plutonian energy go their way
in the restructuring of law, as it has been; or will what needs to
happen occur?,

[Eloriel]

9. A lot more info is here

in this (IMO) rather stunning "unauthorized biography" by Tarpley. If you haven't read it (or at least dipped into it), by all means do:

TARPLEY - Unauthorized Biography
http://www.tarpley.net
http://www.the7thfire.com/bush1.htm

I confess I haven't read the Nazi Hydra in America, which is the source for Yeadon (in fact, it too was co-written by Yeadon), so it's possible that's as good or even better.

And here are some (sorta random) links where we discussed some of the stuff from Tarpley and other sources, in case you missed them the first time around:

Here's an amazing article from 1944:
American fascism
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=212387

It's Time for Another Bush/Nazi Thread
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=199853#199887
(most links already harvested)

1944: American fascism (re 1944 article)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=212387

Enough with the "_______ is worse than/ as bad as Hitler"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1730317

How Reagan Got Elected in the first place -- My little tribute
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1773894#1776990 (See Octafish post #33 for links to some books on Amazon)

Is U.S. REALLY like Germany in the 30's? (elementaryPenguin)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1772363#1772645
See also: Is US like Germany of the '30s? (Kayell)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1777406#1780958

Are we on the road to becoming Nazi's?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1784358#

Second Circuit Judge Tells It Like It Is: Bush Is Illegitimate
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1833026
re this news story: http://daily.nysun.com/Repository/getmailfiles.asp?Style=OliveXLib:ArticleToMail&Type=text/html&Path=NYS/2004/06/21&ID=Ar00101

Comparing Bush to Hitler hurts our credibility
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1873137#1873330

The Fascism is getting harder to hide. And harder to fight.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=750446

"American fascists" among us
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2026031

Joe Stanton: "Bush's Operation Clean Sweep: World War IV in 2004?"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=808293

Fascism?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1948137

Way, Way Past Time To Label BushCo As Nazis
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1966911#1967150

I'm crying (Elf sees the warning signs)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1791526#1791609

Is America Becoming Fascist?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2159330

What Would Machiavelli Do? The Big Lie Lives On ...Thom Hartmann
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2276024



Some Operation Paperclip Links:
The Ghost of Adolph Hitler: Nazi Influence in America
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/STA310A.html

Mae Brussell: http://www.maebrussell.com/index.html
MAE BRUSSELL'S PICTURE OF THE PENTAGON - THE SPIDER AND THE ODESSA
http://www.newsmakingnews.com/mbspiderweb2,21,83.htm

Ratlines: The CIA and the Nazis (Tarpley)
http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/ratlines.htm

CIA's Worst Kept Secret
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2001/051601a.html

Project Paperclip and Camp Evans (in N.J.)
http://www.infoage.org/paperclip.html

Opn Paperclip (Namebase)
http://www.namebase.org/main3/Operation-Paperclip.html

Project Paperclip: Nazi Scientists Who Performed Human Experimentation in the U. S. http://www.dc.peachnet.edu/~shale/humanities/composition/assignments/experiment/paperclip.htm

Project Paperclip and Literal Nazi Connections
http://www.datafilter.com/mc/paperclip.html
Resources on Human Experimentation by Nazi Doctorszi Experimentation
http://www.dc.peachnet.edu/~shale/humanities/composition/assignments/experiment/paperclip.html
and Resources on Nonconsensual Human Experimentation
http://www.dc.peachnet.edu/~shale/humanities/composition/assignments/experiment/paperclip.html

Operation Paperclip Revisited: Moral Schmoral By RICHARD THIEME, August 22, 2003
http://www.counterpunch.org/thieme08222003.html

MKULTRA
Mindfield (Globe Intel) http://www.gordonthomas.ie/mindfield.htm


This one is fascinating too:
SHADOW OF THE SWASTIKA:
The Real Reason the Government Won't Debate Medical Cannabis and Industrial Hemp Re-legalization: An Open Letter to All Americans
By R. William Davis
Documented Evidence of a Secret Business and Political Alliance
Between the U.S. "Establishment" and the Nazis -
Before, During and After World War II - up to the Present.
http://www.sumeria.net/politics/shadv3.html


Some info on Opn Gladio:
Operation Gladio, © 1997 David Guyatt
http://www.copi.com/articles/guyatt/gladio.html


The VATICAN:
THE POPE, THE NAZIS, AND THE CIA:
Some notes on the Vatican's role in the destruction of Yugoslavia
http://www.srpska-mreza.com/library/facts/Lituchy.html


I have others, just haven't organized them.

[starroute]

6. This is one part of the picture -- but fascism has a lot of other strands

I've been having an intermittent running argument with Pallas about this, because I keep insisting that the traditional elite's embrace of fascism or fascist-related ideas (like eugenics) is only one strand in the web -- and maybe not even the most important.

There is also a native American fascist tradition whose basis is far from elite (although it has occasionally enjoyed elite funding) and is largely centered in the South. It runs from the fascist groups of the 30's into the McCarthyite and States Rights movements of the late 40's and 50's and was behind groups like the John Birch Society and individuals like H.L. Hunt and his sons. It is this tradition that is the source of the current promoters of the Swiftboat Liars. It is also closely tied to the Religious Right.

There is a third strand which came over from Europe at the time of World War II, primarily with Jewish refugees from Hitler. (They may all have been persecuted, but they were by no means all progressives, and many of them held a belief-system that was effectively indistinguishable from fascism.) Henry Kissinger comes out of one line of that anti-democratic European tradition, Leo Strauss and the Neocons out of another.

In my book, anybody who believes in the philosophical desirability of the individual being subordinated to an all-powerful Leader or State or Church is a fascist of some stripe. And there are far more lower-class thugs with dreams of absolute power than there are children of privilege with expectations that the world was made to do their bidding.


On edit: I forgot to mention an important fourth strand, which is associated with the Catholic Church and specifically with such ultra-conservative groups as Opus Dei, which came out of Franco's Spain and has had strong ties with the fascist leaders of Latin America. The Knights of Malta is another group much beloved of conspiracy theorists, since it has ties to everything from that attempted coup against Roosevelt to the CIA. The P2 lodge scandal of the 80's (which has been tied to both Bush Sr. and Henry Kissinger) fits in here somewhere as well.

[Eloriel]

7. Absolutely true. But you should read the article

because it doesn't totally ignore some of the "strands" you identify. In fact, this one is very well (and IMO somewhat shokcingly) identified and covered, if briefly:

There is a third strand which came over from Europe at the time of World War II, primarily with Jewish refugees from Hitler. (They may all have been persecuted, but they were by no means all progressives, and many of them held a belief-system that was effectively indistinguishable from fascism.) Henry Kissinger comes out of one line of that anti-democratic European tradition, Leo Strauss and the Neocons out of another.

Remember too that it's an article (and a long one at that), not a book. I myself mentioned Operation Gladio which while it pertains to Italy is, IMO, quite important to understanding what we're up against (the fact that the Nazis post-WW2 with CIA help infiltrated other countries as well). That may account for some of the Opus Dei and other fascist-type strands connected with the Church (I don't know that, it's speculation on my part). OTOH, we also know that the Vatican helped Nazis escape so perhaps they didn't actually need any "encouragement" in their fascist leanings).

So, you may be fighting with Pallas, I don't see that we need to. We're basically in agreement. But read the article. It's not a bad synopsis (if incomplete) that you may want to bookmark or spread around.

[Pallas180]

14. It might have started as strands but now it's entwined spaghetti becaue

they have expanded and expanded just like a mafia family and money laundered into legitimate businesses world wide...as we can see from
the attempted coup of Equatorial Guinea for private business interests
yet govenments involved.

If you hit any person with all of the strands at once it is just too
overpowering and discouraging.

If you approach it one strand at a time instead of overwhelming a person it is more fathomable...althoug I have to admit when I realized the scope of this thing a month or two ago...I was overwhelmed and discouraged.

Blame it on capricorn. I think it has to be organized, and separated
and then rejoined.

Starroute, thinks it all has to be connected at once.

Psychologically, that's a killer of interest and an invitation to just
giving up.

That's our ongoing discord. I believe in keep it simple, because it's so convoluted and all encompassing that it could and would be just too much of an avalanche.

[Old and In the Way]

8. Thanks for posting............a sobering assessment of the future

unless we put a stop to it now. I've e-mailed to everyone I know and suggest that this gets tree'd to as many people as possible.

[Eloriel]

11. You know what worries me?

Too few people in this whole country understand even a smidgeon of this. We on the Left keep batting at the mere SYMPTOMS of this problem, and until we fully identify and publicize the whole ugly reality, which is MUCH bigger than most of us (even those who have been looking at it and studying it) even realize, we will NOT accomplish what we need to.

We have to politically (and preferrably also legally) DESTROY the Bush Crime Family. We have to make it impossible for any of them to EVER hold any office in this country again. We have to make them more infamous than "Benedict Arnold" or "John Wilkes Booth" or the patsy "Lee Harvey Oswald." And that's just for starters. There are a whole lotta other folks we need to root out and systematically (figuratively and politically speaking) destroy as well, incl. the religio-fascists freaks who dream of a nation of "Biblical law" (the Reconstructionists and their only slightly less scarey fundamentalist friends).

And despite what sooooooo many DUers think, a Kerry administration won't be anything but a (hopefully) pleasant respite if we don't do the really hard work.

[Old and In the Way]

19. Too few people do know this....totally agree.

But Kerry COULD be the man to bring it all down. What he needs:

(1) An election mandate.
(2) A Democratic majority (with real motivation to stop the BFEE) in Congress.

I think JK knows the ugly history of the BFEE in this country (BCCI/Iran-Contra/Allende) better than any other candidate we ran. It wouldn't surprise me if he's going to shock this country awake. He was affected by the assassinations of his heroes in the 60's. I think he may see this as a defining moment in our history and I don't doubt that he has the guts to take on this fight.

Sadly, though, if squeeks in with a small plurality and the Republicans maintain Congressional control, his fight is immeasurably harder, maybe impossible.

We need to get the American people to take their blinders off and understand how we've been brainwashed by our corporate media in their enabling of the BFEE and the 4th Reich.....I think this article is consise yet clearly detailed and exactly the ammunition that is needed to wake people up.

I've sent it to 50 people I know tonight. If 50 people sent this to 50 and they sent it to 50.....we could flood this before the election.

[Dover]

23. I don't know a lot of details about Iran Contra, but am wondering

WHY OH WHY the neocons weren't led away in handcuffs right then? Seems like it would have made a big difference and perhaps would have prevented the current regime from getting established.

Some have said Kerry dropped the ball on this, as did so many in our government. This move toward global corporate governance seems now to be unstoppable as they are so much more powerful than countries.

It has been interesting to watch Putin deal with 'the oligarchs' in Russia. I don't understand the implications or the strategy there, but his government WAS able to bring a huge corporation to its knees (which had major economic implications for that country as well).

[Eloriel]

25. I agree totally about Iran Contra

I used to say, as the enormity of all this was dawning on me, that that was our "last chance" to put an end to this stuff, snuff it out and totally discredit the Bush Crime Family. Our first "last chance" was Kennedy's assassination (other than that trading with the enemies stuff during the war -- IMAGINE that Prescott Bush was actually elected Senator shortly thereafter!!). It was really downhill from there because "they" found out how much they could get away with and were only strengthened and immeasurably emboldened because of it.

[KelleyKramer]

10. A book recommendation ..

If you're interested I would suggest you check out-

'Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler' by Antony C Sutton.

It came out well before either Bush took power so there is not much mention of them, but they are tied right in with the same crowd.

Its amazing how many 'cornerstone' US corporations were tied directly into the Nazi industrial complex.

Very well documented and a highly recommended read.

[Eloriel]

12. Thanks

Yes, it's absolutely shocking (to me) how aligned with Hitler our really top-notch US corporations were (IBM, Ford, so many others). Hitler paid Randolph Hearst to promote him and fascism in his U.S. newspapers!

[KelleyKramer]

15. You have a good start, you'll like the book

Read it several years ago and it was probably the most profound thing I ever read at the time (this was pre-coup Bush *sigh*).

You'll want to check it out, it connects all the dots.

Check your library, or you can probably get it cheap on ebay.

[Minstrel Boy]

24. Also look for "Trading with the Enemy" by Charles Higham

Shocking, treasonous stuff, with Rockefeller, Favish and the rest.

[Karenina]

35. Do check out the 1939

"blast from the past" in this thread...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2283591

[Cleita]

13. Thanks for putting this up.

I must have missed the original thread.

[Pallas180]

16. One of the original

Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-22-04 03:52 AM
Original message


Fascism, Nazism, & Eugenics supported by Oil Barons of America &

Edited on Sun Aug-22-04 03:56 AM by Pallas180

especially the Rockefeller foundaton

A Horror Story - http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/nazihydra.html

The Nazi Hydra In America Live and Well.

http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/noon.html


The Eugenics and Euthanesia Movement in American, Exported to Germany
by the Rockefeller Foundation - directly to Auschwitz and Joseph Mengele

Fascism in America
Part 1: I.G. Farben
Part 2: I.G. Economic Warfare & Traitors In High Places
Part 3: The Great Paper Schuffle & Cartels
Part 4: The Red Scare of 1919
Part 5: Preachers &Klansmen
Part 6: American Eugenics
Part 7: The Bush Family and Eugenics
Bibliography

Chapter 5:The 1930s: Nazis Parading on Main Street
Part 1: The Fascist Plot Against Roosevelt
Part2: Republicans, Nazis & Elections
Part 3: Fascists & Anti-Unionism
Part 4: The Press Sells Out to the Nazis
Part 5:Congressmen & SeditionistPart
Part 6: Pro-Nazis of the1930s
Appendix 1: Big Money Donors to the Pro-Nazis
Bibliography
Chapter 6:The War Years
Part 1: The Failure of the FBI
Part 2: Rainbow 5 & The Great Sit Down Strike
Part 3: The Battle for the Home Front
Part 4:The Nazis run for Cover
Part 5: Corporate Traitors
Part 6: Navitist Adopts Fascism
Bibliography

Chapter 7: A Pledge Betrayed
Part 1: What went wrong at Aachen?
Part 2:United Nations War Crimes Commission
Part 3:What is a war crime?
Part 4: The OSS: Friend or Foe
Part 5: The OSS in Europe
Part 6: The Nazis Plot a Comeback
Part 7: The Control Council For Germany
Part 8: Generals Clay and Draper
Part 9: John McCloy
Part 10: Freeing Krupp
Part 11: Cover Up
Part 12: The New German Goverment and Old Nazis
Bibliography
Appendix 1: OSS Personnel
Appendix 2: Captured Documents
Appendix 3: Gold Fillings, Auschwitz & George Bush
Appendix 4: Timeline of Treason: The Bush Family Connections to the Nazis
Appendix 5: Photocopy of Vesting Act 248: Seizing Union Bank
George W. Bsh, The Neocons & The Nazis: Ties That Bind---text
George W. Bsh, The Neocons & The Nazis: Ties That Bind---Diagram




Chapter 8: Nazi Gold
Part 1: Merkers
Part2: Safehaven Operations
Part 3: Bormann’s Aktion Feuerland
Part 4: Corruption Overtakes Safehaven
Part 5: Operation Andrew, Sweden and Nazi Gold
Part 6: Portugal,Spain and Nazi Gold
Part 7: Turkey, Argentina and Nazi Gold
Part 8: Switzerland and Nazi Gold
Part 9: Gold Stories from Argentina
Part 10: The Emperor's Golden Lily
Part 10-A: The Black Eagle Trust
Part 11: Gold Stories from the United States
Bibliography
Ratlines: The CIA & The Nazis
George Bush, The CIA, Mind Control & Child Abuse
Those Damn Hippies Are Still Trouble: How the 60s Still Effects Us.

[Cleita]

33. Thanks for reposting this.

eom

[Nordic]

17. this is a great thread

:kick:

[phish420]

18. yep

yeah, I actually just sent my mom some excerpts from a similar article. The page was so good, I kept copy and pasting and ended up sending her a looong email, though I didnt even come close to including everything...here is what I sent her:

Mom,
Ok, here is basically my view of whats going on…(Sorry so long, just so much good info, I kept copying and pasting…excerpts from http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/chpt1.htm , http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/colaw.html and http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/colawp2.html )

Part I – We are becoming fascists (if we aren’t already) (from http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/chpt1.htm )

No other word causes so much misunderstanding, confusion, and heated debate in politics than fascism. The term has been applied to many individuals such as McCarthy, Hoover, and others. It is frequently used to describe government policies and government themselves, often incorrectly.

In various speeches made shortly after the March on Rome, Mussolini stated, "We must take from state authority those functions for which it is incompetent and which it performs badly... I believe the state should renounce its economic functions, especially those carried out through monopolies, because the state is incompetent in such matters... We must put an end to state railways, state postal service and state insurance." The state returned large monopolies to the private sector after returning them to profitability such as the Consortium of Match Manufactures, privatized the insurance system in 1923, the telephone system in 1925, and many of the public works

Both in fascist Italy and Nazi Germany, the tax system was changed to one favoring business and the wealthy. The Nazis allowed industries to deduct from their taxable income all sums used to purchase new equipment. Rich families employing a maid were allowed to count the maid as a dependent child and reap the tax benefit. In Italy, the Minister of Finance stated: "We have broken with the practice of persecuting capital."73

Such programs, catering to big business and the rich elite, are more akin to the policies of the Reagan Administration than it is to any liberal administration including FDR's. Likewise, it was the rich industrialists that were behind the fascist movement in the United States during the 1930s. Thus it is no surprise that the right wing attempts to try and label fascism as socialism in trying to distance themselves from their previous support of fascism

Regulation of businesses or corporations by itself is not socialism. A business entity such as a corporation has no rights other than what privileges a society wishes to grant it. People have rights; a paper creation of a society such as a corporation has no inherent rights. Business entities such as corporations only have conditional privileges based upon providing for the common good of the society, which granted the charter. All such paper creations have an obligation to serve the society, which created it. Failing to perform that obligation, it loses any right for its continuing existence. It the obligation of that society to restrict the rights of such entities to promote equality for all and to prevent a ruling aristocracy from developing. This view is hardly socialism or even radical, unless one wishes to label Thomas Jefferson as a radical socialist as he more eloquently stated it:

"I hope we shall take warning from the example of England and crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations which dare already to challenge our Government to trial, and bid defiance to the laws of our country."3

Perhaps one of the better definitions of fascism comes from Heywood Broun, a noted American columnist in the 1930s:

"Fascism, is a dictatorship from the extreme right or to put it a little more closely into our local idiom, a government which is run by a small group of large industrialists and financial lords...I think it is not unfair to say that any businessman in America, or public leader, who goes out to break unions is laying the foundations for fascism"75

Not all fascists need exhibit all of the traits once again it should be emphasized that all fascist states will exhibit a totalitarian view. Most fascist states will have an extreme nationalism policy. However, extreme nationalism is not mandatory. States such as Spain under Franco and Chile under Pinochet were indeed fascist states, but they could hardly be described as having a policy of extreme nationalism.

Creeping fascism is the gradual lost of freedoms of the masses to the power elite. Full-blown fascism has never appeared all at once. The Nazis took several years to reach the final state of full-blown fascism. It took the Nazis five years before Kristallnacht, which marks the beginning of the "Final Solution." The Nazis gradually took away the freedoms of the citizens of Germany until they were able to launch the Holocaust. This was the reason for including the caveat in the definition of fascism above, "Any action taken by the government that places the rights of the elites and corporations above the citizens is a step towards fascism."

Make no mistake in understanding that the power elite, those that own and run America's corporations, are fascist. They have forced war on this country to protect their assets, they have over-exploited their employees, they have used violence to bust unions, and they rely on divisionist policies such as racism and class warfare to maintain their power.

The erosion of our freedoms in the United States was prolonged by our constitution. Nevertheless, over time the lost of freedoms has left America at the edge of a chasm. Any further loss of freedoms and America will begin an irreversible slide into the deep abyss of fascism.

Hitler was a good orator by all reports, as well as an astute political observer. He knew how to motivate the masses in his name and how to sustain a movement. Someone once remarked recently that you needed only gain control of the 3Ms to gain power. The three "Ms" are the military, media, and money. Hitler had all three behind him. As shown by the passage from Mein Kampf, Hitler started with the blessing of the military. The military, as well as big business, played a behind the scenes role in the appointment of Hitler as chancellor. It's the last of the 3Ms where much confusion and debate arise, Hitler's source of funds or money.

Big business likewise had a large hand in bringing down Bruning in 1930. In a large part, it was the constant bickering by special interest groups that led to the falling of Bruning's cabinet. Big business was urging the following demands on the Bruning government:

>1. The government must take steps to lower the cost of production and widen the profit margin.

2. Lower taxes

3. Reduce the size of government.

4. Lower unemployment insurance benefit

5. The government must allow wages to progress to lower levels, by voiding labor contracts and binding arbitration.26

If these demands from the business community seem familiar to the reader, it's because in a large part they are the same policies that the Republican Party has been advocating for the last twenty years.

Cults are inherently fascist in nature. The leader demands total submersion into the cult. America today has seen far too many examples of cults and cult behavior. A recent example, would be the Waco incident that ended badly. However, there are several right wing groups that do exhibit cult behavior besides the religious groups; the LaRouchians, many of the militias, and the Order would all qualify as cults. In addition, much of the hard right inside the Republican Party has taken on a cult like behavior in their idolizing Reagan. The 105th Congress renamed the Washington airport after him. In the present Congress Congressman Matt Salmmon of Arizona has introduced a bill to deface Mt Rushmore by adding Reagan's imagine to the monument.69

It has been shown beyond any reasonable doubt that Hitler and the Nazis were right wing extremists best described as social darwinists, the antithesis of socialism. It was showed that the Nazis were best described by syndicalism model and that syndicalism is neither socialistic nor capitalistic, inherently. Syndicalism can be either depending upon the makeup; the Nazis were definitely capitalists in that there was no input from labor. All input was reserved for the industrialist. Further, it was shown that the industrialists openly defied Nazi desires in the case of the use of low-grade ores. It was also shown that many of the businesses that was government owned were taken over by the government prior to the Nazis, some dating all the way from the monarchy. Likewise, it was shown that many of the Nazi programs would be classified as corporate welfare today. And it was shown that the real power behind the Nazi movement was the top elitist. This should be sufficient for anyone to dispel the myth that the Nazis were socialist, when in fact they were capitalistic extremists.

In defining fascism, three traits stand above all others, totalitarian, nationalism, and extreme corporatism. In fact, one can not have fascism without corporatism. Other traits of fascism, such as destructive divisionism and the use of violence are secondary. As fascist ideology evolved in the later half of the 20th Century, a happy face was put on fascism by its leaders as they down played the violence and racism. This can be seen best in the far right wing extremist groups currently active in the United States.

Additionally, there is one fact that absolutely places the Nazis and fascism in the extreme right wing portion of the political spectrum, and not the left. No one disputes that a communist revolution attacks the ruling elite of a country. Similarly, socialism and liberalism also attacks the same ruling elite, but the right wing extremists try to claim the opposite. In reality these systems merely seek methods to ease the burden and allow the lower classes to prosper rather than attacking the elite. The Nazis, on the other hand, did not attack the ruling elite of Germany. The rich industrialists were allowed to continue their ways, eased by laws that the Nazis enacted for their benefit. Likewise, the nobility of Germany was supported by the Nazis. In short, the Nazis adopted the ruling elite in Germany and supported them, the exact opposite of what a left leaning political ideology would support.

There is no better proof of the Nazi support for the ruling elite than looking at who supported Hitler in the 1930s in America. Granted, many lower class people were involved in the pro-Hitler movement just as in Germany. But like Germany, it was the rich industrialists that funded these groups. Hearst ordered his newspapers to print pro-Nazi articles. In fact, he had them print the Nazi propaganda directly from Gobbels. Irenee du Pont funded several pro-fascist groups. Henry Ford was well known for his praise of Hitler and funded many pro-Nazis in the 30s. Andrew Mellon and John D. Rockefeller were supporters of Hitler as well. No one is foolish enough to argue that these men were not part of the ruling elite or rich industrialists in America at the time. In fact, support for Hitler among the rich industrialists was rampant.

The continued propagation of such nonsense by the present right wing is nothing short of propaganda. It fits closely with the Nazis' use of propaganda and the symbolism proposed by Gingrich and his negative words. nor will it change the history of the right wing support of the Nazis.

Part II – The Supreme Court ensures that we DO become fascist (from http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/colaw.html and http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/colawp2.html )

Corporate welfare now totals more than $167 billion dollars annually. For the average taxpayer that means paying out $1400 a year in taxes to support corporations. Meanwhile social welfare costs are less than one-third of the cost of corporate welfare.

By 1990, ten corporations accounted for 22 percent of all profits in the United States. Only 400 corporations controlled 80 percent of all capitalist assets in the non-socialist world. Forty-nine American banks hold controlling interest in 500 large corporations. Ten corporations own the three largest television networks and 62 networks

Are these crimes by corporate America just another product of the greed and immorality of the Reagan administration and its agenda of "free enterprise"? Or are these symptoms of a much deeper problem? It should be readily apparent that fascism was a top down revolution of the elite. It was the large industrialists that brought Hitler to power in a backroom deal, almost an exact parallel to the candidacy of George W. Bush in 2000 and the special interest money behind him.

Before considering fascism within the United States, an understanding of corporations and how they have evolved to become a menace to our freedoms is needed. Make no mistake that the danger posed by corporations and the almost inherent fascism that accompanies a capitalistic economy poses the greatest threat to the liberty that anyone will ever face in their lifetime. However, most Americans understand little about how corporations became so powerful. They are largely unaware of the past restrictions on corporations that served the nation in good stead. A brief look at past state constitutions and court cases will provide the reader with a background in understanding how corporations were kept in check in the 1800s. It wasn't until after the Civil War that corporations became so prominent and powerful.

In the past, corporate laws held corporations in check up until the later part of the 1800s with the rise of the silver and railroad barons. In fact, corporate law evolved along with the emergence of a wealthy elite class. The first large change in corporate law came in the 1880s when corporations were given the rights of personhood. A case dating in the first half of the 1920s required the government to obtain search warrants to obtain corporate files. A decision that no doubt saved more than one profit monger supplying arms in WWI and hindered the prosecution of corporations that traded with the Nazis during WWII.

The old adage that you can't fight city hall applies in spades to corporations. Almost everyone has experienced changes corporations made without permission to personnel insurance policies, banking accounts and mutual fund accounts. In effect, corporations control virtually every aspect of life today, including the news.

Today, many senior citizens make monthly pilgrimages to Canada to refill their prescription drugs. Maine has even adopted a law requiring future drug prices must be comparative to those in Canada. Even an Internet site exists to help seniors to obtain their prescriptions through mail from Canada. Because American drug companies were losing millions in these cross-border sales, the George W. Bush administration banned such sales.

So what is the difference between Canada's healthcare system and that of the United States? If one was to listen to the extreme right and the Republican Party, they are screaming that Canada's healthcare system is socialistic. Balderdash! The same prescription drugs that can be obtained in Canada for a fraction of the price they sell for in the United States are produced by the very same corporations that are gouging American citizens. If those corporations were owned and run by the government, then it would truly be a socialistic system. But, why the lie? It is simple Canada chooses to regulate its corporations. We have the same choice but the right-wing politicians are shills bought and paid for by the very corporations that they are in charge of regulating. Its simply a diversion and scare tactic perfected by the Republicans to scream communism or socialism whenever anything should threaten their meal ticket.

A good example was the Republican response to President Clinton's proposal to expand Medicare. The Republicans chose Senator Bill Frist of Tennessee to deliver their response. Frist pretended to be just an old country doctor overwhelmed by regulations. Frist's performance was truly deserving of an Academy Award for best actor as the quote below exemplifies.

"You know, my father was a family doctor for 55 years. As a young boy making housecalls with him, I remember his stethoscope, his doctor's bag, and best of all his wonderful and compassionate heart."

However, the facts from Roll Call reveal a different picture.14 While Bill Frist is indeed a doctor, he is hardly a simple country doctor. In 1968, Frist's father and brother help launched the Hospital Corporation of America. Frist's wealth comes from his stock holdings in this giant healthcare unit. In 1996, First disclosed a minimum of $13.7 million in assets; $8 million of which was in Hospital Corporation of America. Of course, Senator Frist omitted his holdings in this healthcare giant in his response, just as he omitted the fact that Hospital Corporation of America faced a Justice Department probe into charges of widespread fraudulent Medicare billing schemes. In other words, the ones writing the laws and regulations are the corporations.

Here we have the crux of the problem, regulation. Regulation of corporations is not socialism; when done to promote the common good, it is liberalism at its finest hour. As paper entities, corporations have no rights only people have rights. Corporations only have conditional obligations to fulfill for the society that created them. It is the obligation of that society in creating a corporation to ensure that it works to the common good and welfare of the society and not just to the benefit of a few moneyed interests. That is liberalism, not socialism. Perhaps, George Soros stated the problem best by saying one cannot have a global economy without first having a global society. By "society," he means a government or other regulatory mechanism.1 The same applies equally well within a nation. This does not imply that corporations are necessarily bad or evil; they are just a tool for any society to better itself. However, left unregulated, corporations can and do acquire absolute power, which leads directly to the fascist state of corporate rule

The concept of granting a charter as a privilege and not a right carried over into early American corporate law. Thus, the present view that corporations hold a property right is based on another myth. In fact, the view of this property right did not come about until after the Civil War. Before this time, the concept of a corporate charter as a privilege was the commonly held view. The present view of a corporate charter having property rights only came about through judicial activism and through various state legislators.

The concept of corporate charters as a privilege was clearly carried forward into the Articles of Confederation, when in 1781 Congress granted a national charter to the Bank of North America. Likewise, this concept of a privilege was carried into the Constitutional Convention of 1787. During the convention, James Madison twice proposed that Congress be given the power to grant charters. Both proposals were met with failure, although no formal vote on either measure was ever taken. Various members opposed such proposals as unnecessary or feared that they would lead to monopolies. Based on his fears of a national bank, Jefferson opposed the idea of federal charters fearing they would create monopolies. Jefferson was to lose on both views when Congress later granted a federal charter for the National Bank. One can hardly blame the delegates to the convention for believing that there was no need for proposals regulating corporations since there were less than 40 corporations in 1787. That number rose to 334 by 1800.

Thus, the Constitution of the United States was left with only two clauses to regulate corporations: the commerce clause in Article I Section VIII and the obligation of contract clause in Article I Section X. The regulation and granting of corporate charters was left to the various states. The states continued to treat a corporate charter as a privilege granted only under special acts of their legislators. However, the process of hearings and petitioning the state legislators was plagued with delays, favoritism and outright corruption.

What many people fail to understand is the Bill of Rights originally consisted of twelve rights. On December 20th, 1787, Jefferson wrote to James Madison about his concerns regarding the Constitution. He listed what he did not like in the new constitution in the excerpt below.

"First, the omission of a bill of rights, providing clearly, and without the aid of sophism, for freedom of religion, freedom of the press, protection against standing armies, restriction of monopolies, the eternal and unremitting force of the habeas corpus laws, and trials by jury in all matters of fact triable by the laws of the land, and not by the laws of nations."

Besides noting the many freedoms that now compose the Bill of Rights, Jefferson also noted the lack of restriction on monopolies. Many of the revolutionaries of 1776 believed any institution made up by and of humans—from governments to churches to corporations—must be subordinate to individual people in terms of the rights and powers held by the institution. This is perhaps best stated by Thomas Paine in The Rights of Man as the example below illustrates.

"that government is a compact between those who govern and those who are governed; but this cannot be true, because it is putting the effect before the cause; for as man must have existed before governments existed, there necessarily was a time when governments did not exist, and consequently there could originally exist no governors to form such a compact with. The fact therefore must be, that the individuals themselves, each in his own personal and sovereign right, entered into a compact with each other to produce a government: and this is the only mode in which governments have a right to arise, and the only principle on which they have a right to exist."

Jefferson received a good response in ten of the measures comprising the original bill of rights. The two issues of banning a standing army and blocking corporations from gaining monopolistic control over industries, were meeting with resistance and failed to pass. The Federalist were in power, a group Jefferson referred to as "the rich and the well born." The following quote from James Madison confirms the distrust of corporations held by the founding fathers.

"There is an evil, which ought to be guarded against in the indefinite accumulation of property from the capacity of holding it in perpetuity by … corporations. The power of all corporations ought to be limited in this respect. The growing wealth acquired by them never fails to be a source of abuses."



In 1886, the Illinois Supreme Court struck down state Granger laws regulating railroad rates in Wabash v. Illinois. The high point of pro-business judicial activism occurred in 1886. In this year alone, the court struck down 230 state laws passed to regulate corporations. It was also the year of the most grievous act of all in furthering corporate power. This was the year that the court handed down the ruling in Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad declaring that corporations were persons under the 15th Amendment. At the very outset of the case Chief Justice, Morrison R. Waite stated:

"The Court does not wish to hear argument on the question whether the provision in the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution, which forbids a state to deny to any person the equal protection of the laws, applies to these corporations. We are all of the opinion that it does."

This outrageous ruling has done more to damage our liberty and freedoms than any other single ruling in the history of the country. It in effect gave corporations the same rights as persons, but with none of the obligations and social responsibility carried with those rights. It paved the way for rendering the people subservient to corporations. It is important to note the year this ruling came down corresponds to the height of the robber barons.

Before proceeding further, a closer look at the members of this Supreme Court is needed. This court was undoubtedly the court that was the most agonistic court toward individual freedom and liberty than any other court, with the possible exception of the Rehnquist court of today. Just as the Rehnquist court voided the results of the 2000 election and appointed George W. Bush president, Associate Justice Joseph Bradley of this court cased the deciding vote in giving Rutherford B. Hayes the presidency.

This was the same court that rendered the Civil Rights Act of 1875 invalid in Plessy v. Ferguson. In essence, the court threw out the 14th Amendment in their ruling in applying the amendment to individuals as it was intended. Even more telling of the abusive nature of the court on civil rights was that number of fourteenth amendment cases between 1890 and 1910 only 19 dealt with the Negro while 288 dealt with corporations



In 1917, Idaho became the first state to enact criminal syndicalism laws; twenty-three other states soon followed. The laws were used to suppress labor organizers, political activists and foreigners.



In 1969, the Newspaper Preservation Act was passed. The act specifically exempts newspapers from the antitrust laws. Wholesale consolidation of newspapers followed until only a handful of corporations owned all the major newspapers



In 1976, the second most grievous extension to corporate power was granted to corporations by the court. In Buckley v. Valeo corporations were granted freedom of speech and corporations were now free to contribute unlimited funds to election in effect buying the candidate of their choice. The year 1976 marks the beginning of another long period of pro-corporate rulings, as Republicans were once again able to stack the court with extremely conservative justices.



In U.S. v. Martin Linen Supply Co., a case heard in 1976, the court ruled that corporations may use the 5th Amendment to protect themselves from double jeopardy to avoid a retrial of an antitrust suit. In addition, in 1976 the court ruled that advertising was free speech in Virginia Board of Pharmacy v. Virginia Citizens Consumer Council. In 1977, the court allowed corporations the protection of the 4th Amendment to thwart the efforts of OSHA inspectors in Marshall v. Barlow. In 1977, the court overturned state restrictions on corporate spending on political referendums under 1st Amendment protections in First National Bank v. Bellotti ruling that money was free speech.



It should be clear that the rich elite as a class didn’t begin to emerge until after the Civil War, which paralleled with the court's pro-business rulings that reached a climax with the robber barons of the 1880s. By the end of the 1880s, corporations were granted the rights of personhood by the Waite court. In effect, the judicial system conferred citizenship on corporations without any of the obligations and responsibilities that go with individual citizenship. It leaves us in the precarious position of capital (money) having more rights than that of the owner of the capital.



One good example of corporate having the rights of a person without the obligations was during WWII when individuals could be drafted and forced to serve their country. Initially after the bombing of Pearl Harbor the army was overwhelmed with volunteers. However, throughout five long years the army relied on the draft to maintain the army's strength, but the critical factor was a shortage of supplies. Moreover, the supplies and orders for munitions and armaments were slow to come. Corporations refused to produce war munitions in favor of consumer goods. In effect, corporations engaged in a sit-down strike until they had obtained outrageously beneficial terms. America faced corporations that openly violated the law, corporations that blackmailed the government with threats of an interruption of the supply of gasoline and corporations that conspired to price fixing. Finally, America faced the armies of the Third Reich supplied by products built by American corporations. No corporation ever faced charges of price fixing, war profiteering and treason with supplying the enemy with munitions. Yet more than three hundred corporations did business with the Third Reich during the war. (Personal note – this includes George W Bush’s Grandfather and his steel business. Throughout 1932, actions taken by the Bush-Harriman shipping line were directly responsible for bringing Hitler to power. The constitutional government tried to disarm the Nazi Brown Shirts to stop the mad election melees and murders. The U.S. embassy in Berlin reported)



Certainly, the record of the Waite court with its many antagonistic rulings toward the civil rights of individuals and their liberties, along with an extremely pro-business agenda spanning a period of almost 30 years should give us pause today---especially with the present Rehnquist court quietly chipping away at the Miranda ruling and other civil rights rulings. Likewise, it was the Rehnquist court that ruled that some ballots in Florida were more equal than others and need not be counted, thereby throwing the 2000 election to George W. Bush just as justices from the Waite court installed Rutherford B. Hayes as president earlier. Such outrageous rulings should call into question the confirmation procedure used in the Senate for court appointments. All too often justices are chosen for their political ideology rather than their judicial abilities.

The erosion of protections from corporations built into the various state constitutions has led to the present problems we are facing. Our government is for sale to the highest bidder. The erroneous decision of the court in 1976 equating money with free speech has left us with unequal rights. A citizen’s voice is not equal to that of a multinational corporation simply because the corporation has unlimited financial resources to apply. Further, the court has allowed corporations to grow to gargantuan proportions, precisely the fear Jefferson expressed in his opposition to national charters

In 1996, 51 of the world’s largest economies were corporations with General Motors larger than Denmark, and Wal-Mart, the twelfth corporation larger than 161 countries. The top 200 corporations in the world have sales equivalent to 28.3 percent of the world's GDP. The combined sales of these top 200 corporations are larger than all but the world’s nine largest countries. These top 200 corporations employ 18.8 million people or less than one-third of one percent. The world top five employers are General Motors, Wal-Mart, PepsiCo, Ford and Siemens.

Domestically, the top one percent of Americans owns 40 percent of all U.S. assets. The corporate share of income taxes has fallen from roughly 40 percent in the 1940s to less than 15 percent today. While corporate profits rose an astounding 130 percent from 1980 to 1995, the average family saw a net decrease in their real wage. The problem was first detailed in America: What Went Wrong? written by Barlett and Steele for the Philadelphia Inquirer in 1992 and now available in paperback.

In the abbreviated list of court rulings and acts of Congress above, the list stopped at 1987. For one, the focus of corporate regulation changed; an era of extreme conservatism gripped the nation. Carter began deregulation of a few industries to prop up a sagging economy feeling the after-effects of OPEC. In the 1980 presidential race, Reagan ran on a platform of deregulation. If Carter began limited deregulation, the Reagan administration threw open the flood gates.



The result of the deregulation of the 1980s and 1990s is literally punctuated with dismal failures. The era is marked in the beginning by a multi-billion dollar taxpayer bailout of the savings and loan industry. For much of the 1980s, the savings and loan bailout was a black hole for taxpayers’ hard earned dollars. The industry had been deregulated and had gambled on high-interest junk bonds and foreign loans. When the junk bond market collapsed along with the foreign loans the industry was devastated. Fallout from the resulting carnage lead to the Keating Five and the Michael Milken trials. Keating lobbied Congress heavily promoting deregulation of the savings and loan but in the end Lincoln Savings and Loan went bankrupt, as did the reputation of the five congressmen most heavily involved with Keating. Milken, the junk bond king faced a 98-count indictment.



The end result of the savings and loan scandal and the junk bond scandal went far beyond the taxpayer bailout. The junk bonds were used to finance leveraged buyouts, further concentrating power in fewer hands. In addition, many investors in junk bonds found themselves empty-handed with worthless paper or, if they were lucky perhaps saw their investment reduced to fifteen cents for every dollar invested. In the end, none of the perpetrators of the failed savings and loans faced serious sentencing. Milken was fined heavily and sentenced to a short prison term. His fortune was somewhat reduced, but he was still a multi-millionaire.

Evidence exists that in 1988, presidential candidate George Bush was implicated in delaying the closure of Silverado Savings and Loan until after the election, because his son Neil was on the board.10

Perhaps the most damaging aspect of the junk bond fiasco was the spawning of a mania of mergers. Even more than a decade later, mergers are continuing unabated. Just as Barlett and Steele detailed in 1992, mergers have continued. The large corporations that received tax bonanzas from the Reagan administration under the disguise that lower taxes would spur growth didn’t invest their newfound wealth in research instead they bought out smaller corporations. Moreover, with each new merger and buyout, power and wealth was concentrated. For the employees, it meant massive layoffs. Congress and the Justice Department have both been comfortably asleep at the wheel, allowing corporations broken apart to re-merge together as in the case of a couple of the "Baby Bells" and Exxon and Mobil.



Ever since the erroneous Supreme Court decision to equate money with free speech, politicians have been placed in the pocket of corporate America. Campaign finance was an issue in the 2000 elections and remains an issue in Congress despite the best efforts of George W. Bush and the leaders of the Republican Party to kill campaign finance reform. The Bush administration is rabidly pro-business as evident from his appointment of Gale Norton to head of the Interior Department. Norton was a protegee of none other than James Watt. Additionally, Bush has shown his allegiance to corporate America in the California electrical power shortage.



However, Americans (and indeed all of the world’s people) face and even greater threat to their freedoms. The threat comes from the attempt to take fascism world wide through the WTO and so-called free trade agreements. Free trade between nations is beneficial to all. However, free trade means one thing and one thing only a reduction in or elimination of tariffs. Any trade agreement that goes beyond those boundaries is just another step towards global fascism and corporate rule.

In free countries, the laws are determined by the people or representatives of the people they are not set by some corporate fiat. However, that is not the case with the recent trade agreements such as GATT, NAFTA, the now defeated MAI or the present negotiations on GATS. All of these so-called trade agreements contain provisions that either overwrite exiting labor and environmental laws or mandate payment to any corporation that perceives itself to be injured by public policy, the laws of a sovereign nation or both. Further, these so called free trade treaties set up corporate tribunals as the final arbitrator in any disputes rendering the court system and national sovereignty mute. In essence these free trade agreement confer sovereign status onto corporations.

For instance under GATT, the United States was forced to accept shrimp imports from Thailand. The imports had been banned under U.S. law because Thailand law did not require shrimpers to use protective nets for sea turtles.

Presently the US is bound by NAFTA to begin allowing Mexican tractor-trailer rigs to enter the country unrestricted. At best, the only protection ensuring these rigs to be up to U.S. safety standards comes from state highway patrols.

[Pallas180]

20. Great Letter Phish. Here's another link from Minstrel boy

Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-29-04 02:11 AM
Response to Original message

86. The Rockefellers, evangelicals and genocide in the Amazon


There's a hugely important, provocative and hard-to-find book (no coincidence there) titled Thy Will Be Done by Gerard Colby, which details the sordid secret history of evangelical missionaries, the CIA and leading US industrialists (chiefly the Rockefellers, and particularly Nelson). Getting those pesky indiginous people saved and off that resource rich land was in their mutual interest. And hundreds of thousands died.

Review here:

http://www.cephas-library.com/church_n_state_rockefelle...

my blog: http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com / http://www.paranoidlarry.com / http://www.globalresearch.ca / http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/index.jsp http://www.madcowprod.com / http://www.deepblacklies.co.uk / "We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men." George Orwell

[Pallas180]

22. And this Bush unauthorized biography looks good too.

Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-29-04 01:28 PM
Original message
CHEEZ- things G.H.W. Bush (& the media) never told us -


From the unauthorized biography:

http://www.internetpirate.com/George%20Bush%20The%20Una...

(this part particularly caught my eye, not only for the failure to prosecute, but essentially this family must have a socio-psychopathic gene)

Prescott's son George, the future U.S. President, was also safe. Three days before this note to Moscow was written, George Bush had parachuted from a Navy bomber airplane over the Pacific Ocean, killing his two crew members when the unpiloted plane crashed.


'At present writing all is well here." Thus the ambassador to Russia (Averill Harriman) was reassured by the managing partner of his firm, Prescott Bush. Only 22 and a half months before, the U.S. government had seized and shut down the Union Banking Corporation, which had been operated on behalf of Nazi Germany by Bush and the Harrimans. But that was behind them now, and they were safe.

There would be no publicity on the Harriman-Bush sponsorship of Hitlerism.

Prescott's son George, the future U.S. President, was also safe. Three days before this note to Moscow was written, George Bush had parachuted from a Navy bomber airplane over the Pacific Ocean, killing his two crew members when the unpiloted plane crashed.

[Minstrel Boy]

21. Remember the flap about Nazis in the '88 Bush campaign?

Nazi sympathizers have made a home for themselves for years in the Republican Party as part of "ethnic outreach committees".

Nazi collaborators involved in George HW Bush's 1988 campaign included:

1.Radi Slavoff, GOP Heritage Council's executive director, and head of "Bulgarians for Bush." Slavoff was a member of a Bulgarian fascist group, and he put together an event in Washington honoring Holocaust denier, Austin App.

2.Florian Galdau, director of GOP outreach efforts among Romanians, and head of "Romanians for Bush." Galdau was once an Iron Guard recruiter, and he defended convicted Nazi war criminal Valerian Trifa.

3.Nicholas Nazarenko, leader of a Cossack GOP ethnic unit. Nazarenko was an ex-Waffen SS officer.

4.Method Balco, GOP activist. Balco organized yearly memorials for a Nazi puppet regime.

5.Walter Melianovich, head of the GOP's Byelorussian unit. Melianovich worked closely with many Nazi groups.

6.Bohdan Fedorak, leader of "Ukrainians for Bush." Fedorak headed a Nazi group involved in anti-Jewish wartime pogroms.

http://alexconstantine.50megs.com/cia_nazis_and.html

And also very good info on this page from 1988, in the form of a timeline titled "A Radical Electronic Resource: George Bush, anti-Semites and the Big Lie":

9/10/88 -- The Philadelphia Inquirer runs an article by David Lee Preston which corroborates much of the material in Washington Jewish Week. Preston also cites the Bellant report which describes how the Republican Party has been recruiting ethnic facists, racists and anti-Semites for over 20 years, through its Heritage Groups Council.

...

New York Post columnist Pete Hamill in a column titled "George Bush and his fascist fan club" quotes Menachem Rosensaft, president of the Labor Zionist Alliance and leader of the International Network of Children of the Holocaust:

"He accepted their resignations. And he said he was against anti-Semitism. But when they were gone, an aide said the charges against these men were `unsubstantiated and politically motivated.' Clearly Bush wanted them out once they were exposed, but he still wants the votes of their constituency."

9/29/88 -- Ron Kauffman, Northeast political director for Bush Campaign tells the Jewish Advocate newspaper the Bellant report as "totally outrageous." Mark Goodin, Bush Campaign spokesman, denounces Bellant's report and says people who voluntary resigned from campaign "vigorously defended" themselves against the charges. "We were not able to substantiate any of the allegations...These individuals maintain fierce opposition to the
charges. We certainly accept that explanation."

So the Bush campaign has come full circle to a total whitewash of the allegations. Just last week author Charles R. Allen Jr., an expert on the emigre Nazi network, questioned the candor of Bush when he "professed ignorance of pro-Nazi backgrounds" of the ethnic campaign supporters. Allen produced a 1983 photograph of George Bush shaking hands with Yaroslav Stetsko, then leader of the pro-Nazi Anti-bolshevik Bloc of Nations. The photo was taken at a White House reception. Bush signed the photo: "To the Honorable Yaroslav Stetsko with best wishes - George Bush." Allen also produced a 1976 RNC memo in which Bush, as RNC Chair, is reported to have reviewed the past work of the Republican Heritage Groups Council and set goals for the coming year. What Allen, Bellant and other critics conclude is that if George Bush becomes President he will continue to collaborate with Nazi collaborators, anti-Semites, fascists and racists as long as their hard-line anti-communism is useful to the Republican Party and a militant foreign policy.
http://www.skepticfiles.org/socialis/bushhoax.htm

[Eloriel]

27. Excellent

Yes, that's another piece entirely, the "Heritage groups" which were specifically created by the RNC to funnel ex(?)-Nazis and their activities into "the cause." Another little blip on the screen that could've been an entree into unraveling the whole mess. I thought of it at the time as simply some strange "coincidence" or unfortunate circumstance. Tsk, tsk.

I never had any names tho -- thanks.

[indepat]

26. What is sad is none of this matters to lock-stepping true-believers

and other brain-dead and brainwashed followers.

[JohnOneillsMemory]

28. 1987 CIA Whistleblower: "6,000,000 killed in secret CIA terrorism."

CIA Kills 6 Million in Secret Wars, Police State Planned
-Angola CIA station chief John Stockwell in 1987
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4068.htm

(Be sure to read both pages. Stockwell warned us that the Reagan administration planned to eliminate the Bill of Rights, create concentration camps, give FEMA the power of martial law, and conduct 'pre-emptive' wars. The enormity of US crimes against humanity is almost incomprehensible. This tell-all from inside the CIA more than confirms anyone's worst fears about secret US government by terror. This information would turn any hardcore flag-waving Bible-thumper into a vehement 'America hater.' Of course, the US government and CIA is in no way affiliated with the American people who wouldn't believe any of this if they had a chance to read it.
-JohnOneillsMemory)
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John Stockwell

John Stockwell is the highest-ranking CIA official ever to leave the agency and go public. He ran a CIA intelligence-gathering post in Vietnam, was the task-force commander of the CIA's secret war in Angola in 1975 and 1976, and was awarded the Medal of Merit before he resigned. Stockwell's book In Search of Enemies, published by W.W. Norton 1978, is an international best-seller.

"I did 13 years in the CIA altogether. I sat on a subcommittee of the NSC, so I was like a chief of staff, with the GS-18s (like 3-star generals) Henry Kissinger, Bill Colby (the CIA director), the GS-18s and the CIA, making the important decisions and my job was to put it all together and make it happen and run it, an interesting place from which to watch a covert action being done...

CIA Terrorism and Torture in Central and South America

"The CIA was in fact forming the police units that are today the death squads in El Salvador. With the leaders on the CIA's payroll, trained by the CIA and the United States.

We had the `public safety program' going throughout Central and Latin America for 26 years, in which we taught them to break up subversion by interrogating people. Interrogation, including torture, the way the CIA taught it. Dan Metrione, the famous exponent of these things, did 7 years in Brazil and 3 in Uruguay, teaching interrogation, teaching torture. He was supposed to be the master of the business, how to apply the right amount of pain, at just the right times, in order to get the response you want from the individual.

They developed a wire. They gave them crank generators, with `U.S. AID' written on the side, so the people even knew where these things came from. They developed a wire that was strong enough to carry the current and fine enough to fit between the teeth, so you could put one wire between the teeth and the other one in or around the genitals and you could crank and submit the individual to the greatest amount of pain, supposedly, that the human body can register.

Now how do you teach torture? Dan Metrione: `I can teach you about torture, but sooner or later you'll have to get involved. You'll have to lay on your hands and try it yourselves.'

.... All they could do was lie there and scream. And when they would collapse, they would bring in doctors and shoot them up with vitamin B and rest them up for the next class. And when they would die, they would mutilate the bodies and throw them out on the streets, to terrify the population so they would be afraid of the police and the government.

And this is what the CIA was teaching them to do. And one of the women who was in this program for 2 years - tortured in Brazil for 2 years - she testified internationally when she eventually got out. She said, `The most horrible thing about it was in fact, that the people doing the torture were not raving psychopaths.' She couldn't break mental contact with them the way you could if they were psychopath. They were very ordinary people....

There's a lesson in all of this. And the lesson is that it isn't only Gestapo maniacs, or KGB maniacs, that do inhuman things to other people, it's people that do inhuman things to other people. And we are responsible for doing these things, on a massive basis, to people of the world today. And we do it in a way that gives us this plausible denial to our own consciences; we create a CIA, a secret police, we give them a vast budget, and we let them go and run these programs in our name, and we pretend like we don't know it's going on, although the information is there for us to know; and we pretend like it's ok because we're fighting some vague communist threat. And we're just as responsible for these 1 to 3 million people we've slaughtered and for all the people we've tortured and made miserable, as the Gestapo was the people that they've slaughtered and killed."

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Eliminating the Constitution, Pre-emptive Arrest and Concentration Camps

The `Pre-emptive Strikes' bill. President Reagan, working through the Secretary of State Shultz... almost 2 years ago, submitted the bill that would provide them with the authority to strike at terrorists before terrorists can do their terrorism. But this bill... provides that they would be able to do this in this country as well as overseas. It provides that the secretary of state would put together a list of people that he considers to be terrorist, or terrorist supporters, or terrorist sympathizers. And if your name, or your organization, is put on this list, they could kick down your door and haul you away, or kill you, without any due process of the law and search warrants and trial by jury, and all of that, with impunity.

Now, there was a tremendous outcry on the part of jurists. The New York Times columns and other newspapers saying, `this is no different from Hitler's "night in fog" program', where the government had the authority to haul people off at night. And they did so by the thousands. And President Reagan and Secretary Shultz have persisted.... Shultz has said, `Yes, we will have to take action on the basis of information that would never stand up in a court. And yes, innocent people will have to be killed in the process. But, we must have this law because of the threat of international terrorism'.

But they're pressing for this. The special actions teams that will do the pre-emptive striking have already been created, and trained in the defense department.

They're building detention centers. There were 8 kept as mothballs under the McLaren act after World War II, to detain aliens and dissidents in the next war, as was done in the next war, as was done with the Japanese people during World War II. They're building 10 more, and army camps, and the... executive memos about these things say it's for aliens and dissidents in the next national emergency....

FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, headed by Loius Guiffrida, a friend of Ed Meese's.... He's going about the country lobbying and demanding that he be given authority, in the times of national emergency, to declare martial law, and establish a curfew, and gun down people who violate the curfew... in the United States.

And then there's Ed Meese, as I said. The highest law enforcement officer in the land, President Reagan's closest friend, going around telling us that the constitution never did guarantee freedom of speech and press, and due process of the law, and assembly.

What they are planning for this society, and this is why they're determined to take us into a war if we'll permit it... is the Reagan revolution.... So he's getting himself some laws so when he puts in
the troops in Nicaragua, he can take charge of the American people, and put people in jail, and kick in their doors, and kill them if they don't like what he's doing....

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CIA Destabilizes the World With Terrorism

The United States CIA is running 50 covert actions, destabilizing further almost one third of the countries in the world today....

, they send the CIA in, with its resources and activists, hiring people, hiring agents, to tear apart the social and economic fabric of the country, as a technique for putting pressure on the government, hoping that they can make the government come to the U.S.'s terms, or the government will collapse altogether and they can engineer a coup d'etat, and have the thing wind up with their own choice of people in power.

Now ripping apart the economic and social fabric of course is fairly textbook-ish. What we're talking about is going in and deliberately creating conditions where the farmer can't get his produce to market, where children can't go to school, where women are terrified inside their homes as well as outside their homes, where government administration and programs grind to a complete halt, where the hospitals are treating wounded people instead of sick people, where international capital is scared away and the country goes bankrupt.


You remember the assassination manual? that surfaced in 1984. It caused such a stir that President Reagan had to address it himself in the presidential debates with Walter Mondale. They use terror. This is a technique that they're using to traumatize the society so that it can't function.

I don't mean to abuse you with verbal violence, but you have to understand what your government and its agents are doing. They go into villages, they haul out families. With the children forced to watch they castrate the father, they peel the skin off his face, they put a grenade in his mouth and pull the pin. With the children forced to watch they gang-rape the mother, and slash her breasts off. And sometimes for variety, they make the parents watch while they do these things to the children.

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CIA Medical Experiments, Mind Control, and Diseases

They see themselves - they have been functioning above the laws, of God, and the laws of man - they've come back to this country, and they've continued their operations as far as they can get by with them. And we have abundant documentation of that as well. The MH-Chaos program, exposed in the late 60's and shut down, re-activated by President Reagan to a degree - we don't have the details yet - in which they were spending a billion dollars to manipulate U.S. student, and labor organizations. The MK-ultra program. For 20 years, working through over 200 medical schools and mental hospitals, including Harvard medical school, Georgetown, some of the biggest places we've got, to experiment on American citizens with disease, and drugs.

They dragged a barge through San Francisco bay, leaking a virus, to measure this technique for crippling a city. They launched a whooping cough epidemic in a Long Island suburb, to see what it would do to the community if all the kids had whooping cough. Tough shit about the 2 or 3 with weak constitutions that might die in the process. They put light bulbs in the subways in Manhattan, that would create vertigo - make people have double vision, so you couldn't see straight - and hid
cameras in the walls - to see what would happen at rush hour when the trains are zipping past - if everybody has vertigo and they can't see straight and they're bumping into each other.

Colonel White - oh yes, and I can't not mention the disease experimentations - the use of deadly diseases. We launched - when we were destabilizing Cuba for 7 years - we launched the swine fever epidemic, in the hog population, trying to kill out all of the pigs - a virus. We experimented in Haiti on the people with viruses.

I'm not saying, I do not have the slightest shred of evidence, that there is any truth or indication to the rumor that the CIA and its experimentations were responsible for AIDS. But we do have it documented that the CIA has been experimenting on people, with viruses. And now we have some deadly, killer viruses running around in society. And it has to make you wonder, and it has to make you worry.

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CIA Co-Opts Journalists, Academics, and Elections

The Church committee found that the CIA had co-opted several hundred journalists, including some of the biggest names in the business. The latest flap or scandal we had about that was a year and a half ago. Lesley Gelb, the heavyweight with the New York Times, was exposed for having
been working covertly with the CIA in 1978 to recruit journalists in Europe, who would introduce stories, print stories that would create sympathy for the neutron bomb.

The Church committee found that they had published over 1,000 books, paying someone to write a book, the CIA puts its propaganda lines in it, the professor or the scholar gets credit for the book and gets the royalties. The latest flap we had about that was last year. A professor at Harvard was exposed for accepting 105,000 dollars from the CIA to write a book about the Middle East. Several thousand professors and graduate students co-opted by the CIA to run its operations on campuses and build files on students.

And then we have evidence - now, which has been hard to collect in the past but we knew it was happening - of CIA agents participating, trying to manipulate, our elections."

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(Sounds like the Nazi America we all fear, doesn't it?
-JohnOneillsMemory)

[Minstrel Boy]

29. The fascist poison entered America's system decades ago. Now,

it's virtually indistinguishable from the system. Everything has been tainted with its corruption.

I mean, damn, the CIA was essentially a co-creation of Nazis like General Reinhard Gehlen and his Abwehr anti-Soviet intelligence apparatus and Nazi money launderers like Allen Dulles and the fascist-intelligence nexus of Sullivan and Cromwell.

Forty years ago they were bold enough to kill the President, and they've had forty years of getting away with it. And not because there's no evidence they conspired in Kennedy's death. (Anyone who thinks otherwise hasn't read Fonzi's The Last Investigation, Russell's The Man Who Knew Too Much or Newman's Oswald and the CIA, to cite just three.) They got away with it because the truth is too terrible. Many who did not conspire in the killing conspired in the cover-up because they were led to believe that a finding of official complicity in Kennedy's death would shatter the system.

And undoubtedly the same justification has been used over and over again, to shield Americans from the awful truth of MLK, RFK, October Surprise, Iran/Contra, BCCI, 9/11, and on and on. At all cost, protect the system.

But after all these years, the fascist poison is the system. Sorry America, but for the sake of all of us, it must be exposed and shattered. Scattered to the wind in a thousand pieces, just as Kennedy said he meant to do to the CIA.

[Pallas180]

31. quick note - Do we want Goss to be in control of this? he'll complete

the job begun by Reagan and execute the in the middle of the night squads - and the "camps" and the rest of it.

Calls , letters, we have to get this to editorials.

Reagan's plan, which was really doctrine long before Reagan, but not
written as Oliver North put it in black and white in the FEMA document, is in action and appears to me to be within a half inch of
completion.

Reccomend what to do. Who to write. Who to call.

The other choice is to leave the country.

[Minstrel Boy]

32. Goss is an awful choice, because he's their perfect choice.

Respectable exterior, but a longtime asset of the Octopus who knows how to keep things hidden in plain sight.

I mean, damn: he was meeting with the ISI's 9/11 money man the morning of the attack, and he was Mohammed Atta's and Rudi Dekker's congressman.

[Pallas180]

34. Exactly. Perfect for "executing" the plan.

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question still stands.

is there something we should do ?

[annabanana]

39. kick

[seemslikeadream]

40. Time for some Italian Fascism

The right-wing government of corrupt billionaire Silvio Berlusconi, including Martino, was a big supporter of an Iraq war. Moreover, we know that the forged documents falsely purporting to show Iraqi uranium purchases from Niger originated with a former SISMI agent. Watch the reporting of Josh Marshall for more on this SISMI/Ledeen/Rhode connection.

But journalist Matthew Yglesias has already tipped us to a key piece of information. The Niger forgeries also try to implicate Iran. Indeed, the idea of a joint Iraq/Iran nuclear plot was so far-fetched that it is what initially made the Intelligence and Research division of the U.S. State Department suspicious of the forgeries, even before the discrepancies of dates and officials in Niger were noticed. Yglesias quotes from the Senate report on the alleged Iraqi attempt to buy uranium from Niger:


"The INR nuclear analyst told the Committee staff that the thing that stood out immediately about the documents was that a companion document – a document included with the Niger documents that did not relate to uranium – mentioned some type of military campaign against major world powers. The members of the alleged military campaign included both Iraq and Iran and was, according to the documents, being orchestrated through the Nigerien Embassy in Rome, which all struck the analyst as 'completely implausible.' Because the stamp on this document matched the stamp on the uranium document , the analyst thought that all of the documents were likely suspect. The analyst was unaware at the time of any formatting problems with the documents or inconsistencies with the names or dates."

Journalist Eric Margolis notes of SISMI:

"SISMI has long been notorious for far right, even neo-fascist, leanings. According to Italian judicial investigators, SISMI was deeply involved in numerous plots against Italy’s democratic government, including the 1980 Bologna train station terrorist bombing that left 85 dead and 200 injured. Senior SISMI officers were in cahoots with celebrated swindler Roberto Calvi, the neo-fascist P2 Masonic Lodge, other extreme rightist groups trying to destabilize Italy, the Washington neocon operative, Michael Ledeen, and the Iran-Contra conspirators. SISMI works hand in glove with U.S., British and Israeli intelligence. In the 1960s and 70s, SISMI reportedly carried out numerous operations for CIA, including bugging the Vatican, the Italian president’s palace, and foreign embassies. Italy’s civilian intelligence service, SISDE, associated with Italy’s political center-left, has long been a bitter rival of SISMI. After CIA rejected the Niger file, it was eagerly snapped up by VP Dick Cheney and his chief of staff, Lewis Libby, who were urgently seeking any reason, no matter how specious, to invade Iraq. Cheney passed the phony data to Bush, who used it in his January 2003 address to the nation in spite of warnings from CIA. . . ."

So Franklin, Ledeen, and Rhode, all of them pro-Likud operatives, just happen to be meeting with SISMI (the proto-fascist purveyor of the false Niger uranium story about Iraq and the alleged Iran-Iraq plot against the rest of the world) and corrupt Iranian businessman and would-be revolutionary Ghorbanifar in Europe. The most reasonable conclusion is that they were conspiring together about the Next Campaign after Iraq, which they had already begun setting in train, which is to get Iran.

But now The Jerusalem Post reveals that at least one of the meetings was quite specific with regard to an attempt to torpedo better US/Iran relations:

"The purpose of the meeting with Ghorbanifar was to undermine a pending deal that the White House had been negotiating with the Iranian government. At the time, Iran had considered turning over five al-Qaeda operatives in exchange for Washington dropping its support for Mujahadeen Khalq, an Iraq-based rebel Iranian group listed as a terrorist organization by the State Department."
more
http://www.antiwar.com/cole/?articleid=3467

[sadiesworld]

37. Nice read for some of our free traders.

[Pallas180]

41. a kick for Eloriel's great thread

:kick:

[Pallas180]

42. oops - sorry - dupe

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[Pallas180]

43. All the things we wanted to know about secret CIA ops :

Salon article here:

http://www.salon.com/news/wire/2004/08/30/paramilitary/index.html

some admissions of "works" in South America even - apparently the 9 11
commission is trying to get some control in over these secret CIA ops,
and CIA and DoD are fighting it.
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"The Sept. 11 commissioners had argued that having two such organizations within the government was redundant.
"Whether the price is measured in either money or people, the United States cannot afford to build two separate capabilities for carrying out secret military operations, secretly operating standoff missiles and secretly training foreign military or paramilitary forces," their report says. "The United States should concentrate responsibility and necessary legal authorities in one entity."

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Paramilitary operations include training pro-U.S. government or rebel forces, destablizing governments and organizations through violence, and direct attacks on enemy targets and people.
Such operations sometimes are overseen by the CIA and sometimes by special military units such as the Green Berets. Which is used depends on the situation, the need for secrecy and the number of people required. The CIA's paramilitary force was small before Sept. 11 but has expanded rapidly since. In contrast, the military's Special Operations Command numbers 49,000 people, including reservists, support personnel and 3,000 civilians.

One key distinction between the two is how they are ordered into action. Special operations troops are subject to the military chain of command, and also to various laws and international treaties governing the use of armed forces. For the CIA paramilitaries to go into action, the president must sign a secret document called a "finding" that governs their activities, and designated congressional leaders are informed. Thus, those forces are used more often when secrecy is paramount.

McLaughlin said the CIA director also has broader authority than the military to buy equipment to support paramilitary operations, because the agency can avoid the competitive bidding process to get gear to the field quickly. Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld is also cool to the idea of putting all paramilitary operations under his department's control. "There are clearly things that the Central Intelligence Agency does that are covert that the Department of Defense ought not to do," he said.

The CIA's paramilitaries are part of the agency's covert operations arm, called the Special Activities Division. Some unit members specialize in propaganda and economic and political disruption. Others, members of the Special Operations Group, are true warriors.


Unlike the Green Berets, the CIA officers can operate without uniforms or identification as U.S. government employees. If any are caught or killed, the government can plausibly deny involvement.
Also unlike most military special operations forces, women are among the CIA's paramilitary ranks.
In recent decades, the paramilitary force has seen heavy use in Central America, Angola and Afghanistan.