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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 03:17 AM
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History repeats itself.
This week the RNC is coming to Madison Square Garden in NYC.

Perhaps not too many know that in 1933, some 22,000 thousand American citizens showed up for a rally at Madison Square Garden, they were also very patriotic, why rather nationalistic when you get down to it, pro-authoritarian, they supported something of a crackpot as their fearless leader, they hated a certain religious minority who were being used as a scapegoat...



They were nazi sympathizers. 22,000 of them. Americans. In Madison Square Garden.

Of course, this was 1933. The nazis were wiped out twelve years later. Well, these guys hung around. They kept their mouths shut. Some of them are likely still alive. Some of them had kids who they taught their family values, and probably a few of these kids were quite successful.

Makes you think, doesn't it?

It's also worth mentioning that hundreds of thousands of Americans later marched through New York City streets in direct opposition to these guys.

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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 03:22 AM
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1. It's worse than that

Many of the people now supporting * also supported the American
Nationalist Party in the 1930's. Look at the resume of the
publisher of the "Unfit for Command" book (Regnery). Very
close ties to Nazis, neo-nazis, etc.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 04:01 AM
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2. do you have a link? nt
nt
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 04:04 AM
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3. About which?
The Madison Square Garden rally, the counter-protest, or the American Bund in general? It's a big topic.

Here's a good place as any to start:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German-American_Bund
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 04:18 AM
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5. About the Madison Square Garden Rally? nt
nt
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 04:21 AM
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6. I got the photo from here...
http://www.traces.org/americanbund.html

Got the date wrong. The rally was in 1939.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 04:10 AM
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4. There was a major facist movement in America, and
it is foolish to think that it isnt still effecting politics. Those people didnt just stop thinking the things they did because of the war, their children were raised with a very odd way of looking at the world an american life. One can only imagine what kind of effect that would have on thier political leanings.

This is of course not even taking into account the elites ties to facism, and the tendencies of corporations to support facism. Just the people who got sucked in by the propaganda.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 04:21 AM
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7. My older brother had a friend...
... who bought-in to his father's indoctrination that the Jewish Holocaust was a myth.

(Just trying to highlight that a parent has more control over what a child "learns", than what they might hear in schools.)
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 04:24 AM
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8. Yah, and they teach the children not to let on about them
Edited on Mon Aug-30-04 04:40 AM by K-W
so it really just sticks in behind the scenes. Its the same way racism, sexism, etc are spread through families. They teach thier children how to appear to meet the social norms, but they instill them with deeper beliefs that shade the way they view the world extremely. thats why we always have racism. Fathers teach thier children to be more socially accpetable racists, not to stop being racist.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 12:19 PM
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9. bump
nt
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 02:02 PM
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10. Kick!
:kick:
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