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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 02:21 PM
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Transcript: On Cooper 360, Dean attacks Bush, Racicot attacks Dean.
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0408/24/acd.00.html
SNIP..."DEAN: Anderson, it doesn't make any difference. You're not supposed to do ads paid for by outside parties if you are involved with the president's campaign. That, in fact, is what happened. Someone from the president's campaign was involved in an ad that the president was not paying for. That's against the law.

COOPER: But you're alleging, it seems -- and correct me if I'm wrong -- more than that, though. I mean, you seem to be alleging that these two groups are colluding, working in tandem.

DEAN: And the evidence is pretty clear. If you have an employee or someone who is on your advisory council then colluding with another group to put out ads, which, incidentally, don't have one shred of truth to them, then I think you've got a serious problem. I think the president has a very serious problem, because I believe the president has violated the law.

I understand I don't believe the president saw the ad ahead of time, but I believe that under the law, he is responsible for it.

COOPER: Your critics will say, look, there is as much evidence of collusion between President Bush and this group, as there is between John Kerry and some of these 527s that have been raising money for him. I mean, his former spokesman or one of his former advisers, Jim Jordan, former campaign manager, is now a spokesman for the Media Fund, you're appearing at a Moveon event tonight. You work with the Kerry campaign.

Couldn't someone say there's collusion, that's evidence of collusion?

DEAN: There's nothing against the law in my appearing anywhere I want to. I'm an independent operator.
I don't do ads for Senator Kerry....." Then he grinned a little

SNIP..." Governor Dean saying basically the president has violated federal campaign election law. Any truth to that?

MARC RACICOT, CHAIRMAN, BUSH-CHENEY CAMPAIGN: Let me tell you, there is no coordination. And I've said this an infinite number of times, between this campaign and any 527 group, number one. Number two, Howard's comments are reckless. He's accusing the president of the United States of a criminal offense. He has in the past, and others have as well with the Kerry campaign, accused the president of lying. And those are reckless. He's an unguided missile when he talks about these kinds of things with those kinds of suggestions. There's absolutely no coordination between this campaign and any of those 527 groups......."END SNIP

No, Mr. Racicot, Howard Dean is a "guided" missile. Nothing unguided about it.


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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 02:24 PM
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1. hug hug, kiss kiss, to Howard!
He is a mighty wind of truth and firm resolve!
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 02:27 PM
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2. I AM SO GOD DAMN SICK.....
of the fucking media comparing the swift boat vets for lies to Moveon.org....THERE IS NO COMPARISON! The swift boats lie about Kerry's character.....Moveon.org's ads may be negeative but no one has ever proven that they are false....and up until last week the ads dealt with onoly the issues.....sheeesh!
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yankees_suck Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 03:52 PM
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6. umm...excuse me...
...now I am of course a democrat, not a freeper, but i have to say this. Wasn't it moveon that compared Bush to Hitler? I'm sorry, but that's an inherent lie. NOBODY in the US Gov't, no matter how much you hate them, is on the same level as Hitler. Let the flaming of me begin, but I just had to point out that moveon isn't exactly a shining beacon of advertising truth.
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KelleyKramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 04:33 PM
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8. No MOVEON did NOT compare Bush to Hitler

They had a contest for an ad and got over 1,500 applications. One of the applicants made a tasteless entry and Moveon rejected it out of hand.

The only place you could find that Hitler ad on the internet was on the Republican RNC website.


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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 04:35 PM
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9. Oooh, you are very uninformed.
Sorry, but the RNC showed that ad over and over and blamed it on MoveOn. MoveOn took it down.

I think you need to read some history there, fellow.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 04:40 PM
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 04:42 PM
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11. Not only wasnt that a moveon ad, it wasnt a lie.
You may disagree with the comparison, but a comparison is a comparison. Not a lie. There is a big difference between an offensive comparison and a factual lie.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 05:27 PM
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12. HAHAHA.....
you fell for the media whore propoganda.....foolish you.....HAHAHAHA....I cannot stop laughing.....usually a DUer does not fall for such a thing.....this is too funny....and NO....Moveon.org never had an ad comparing Bush to Hitler....it was a contestant who sent the ad in to the organization and it was never used or considered for the ad contest.....you are watching (and apparently) believing what the media whores and repubs are telling you....that is a scary thought....hahahahahaha!
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 02:30 PM
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3. Gov. Racicot...
Has a very interesting history in Montana, involving something called "The North Range" and one Alfred Luciano.

Yes, that Luciano. Hard to find info on it, these days, but it happened.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 02:48 PM
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4. I had not heard of that one, would love to hear more.
:hi:

They always love to put him on after Gov. Dean...so he can insult him.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 03:02 PM
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5. Just google...
Racicot+Luciano
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 03:52 PM
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7. Must be hard to find. Only found one real article.
I would hesitate to post it in some ways. Amazing how many things just disappear into the memory hole.
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