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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 10:02 PM
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YES!!!**** EM2004 Emergency Paper Ballot Act
Edited on Mon Aug-30-04 10:03 PM by shance
Taken a look at votersunite.org? Very impressive site!

I saw the information about EM2004. The Emergency Paper Ballot Act

To me it looks like the best solution. The issue would be reaching the voters to reach the legislators in time.

Emergency Measures to Protect the 2004 Vote Count (EM2004)
Hand counted paper ballots for Federal offices.


The Emergency Paper Ballot Act

A remedy is within reach.

Hand counted paper ballots for FEDERAL offices in the 2004 election!

We need your participation to make it happen.

VotersUnite! in partnership with the National Ballot Integrity Project is asking for your active and unified participation in an effort to avert the crisis that is quickly approaching.

Time is of the essence. We have less than two months until early voting begins for the General Election, even less time before absentee ballots start going out. Concerned citizens have been pursuing many different avenues to safeguard the November election, and these worthwhile pursuits must continue. In addition, we must ALL unite in a call for hand counted paper ballots for FEDERAL offices in the 2004 election -- to avert a national crisis.

In support of these Emergency Measures, the National Ballot Integrity Project is also engaged in a major fund-raising effort to implement a multi-pronged strategy to help achieve this goal. The strategy, which depends upon the active participation of all concerned citizens, organizations, and activists, includes:

- A coordinated effort with concerned Congress members for emergency Federal legislation.
- Advocating in face-to-face meetings with county leaders and state elected officials.
- Sponsoring public events on the state and national level.
- Seeking injunctions in Federal and state courts.
- Providing training DVDs for poll watchers.
- Mobilizing election day poll assistance within election guidelines in support of election officials
- Airing a major media campaign, consisting of a television ad blitz in key swing states and on national cable, as well as targeted print, radio, and internet ads.

We understand that these emergency measures are not a permanent solution to our election system crisis. In fact, they are minimal, but they are the only way to protect our 2004 vote count and assure us of an unquestionable outcome. These measures are essential for November. Insisting on more or settling for less may prevent us from achieving even this.

The Emergency Measures are doable, and with little preparation.

No pre-election changes are needed in any counties that use any type of paper ballot. In counties that use lever machines and DREs, the two or three Federal races (President, Representative, and Senator) would be removed, and a simple inexpensive paper ballot with those two or three races would be printed.

Poll workers would stay an hour or so longer to hand count the two or three races at the precinct and post the results prominently. The many poll workers currently being organized will add to the security of this process.

The manually-counted results will be the official counts and used for the official tally.

If tabulation machines are used to count the ballots, this manual audit will also allow us to evaluate the accuracy of the vote-tabulating machines.

We believe these emergency measures are necessary to ENCOURAGE Americans to vote with the confidence that their votes will count. We believe they will increase voter turnout. Certainly they will reduce the possibilities for costly lawsuits that would otherwise delay the election results and create chaos. Thus, they will avert a national crisis. Please unite with us immediately toward this goal.

Here are actions you can take immediately:

1) Contact Congress and urge the introduction and enactment of the Federal Paper Ballot Act of 2004.

2) Meet with your county leaders and elections officials, individually or in groups, to support hand counted paper ballots for Federal offices.

3) Write a letter to the editor of your local newspaper in support of this plan.

4) Forward this email to others interested in the safety of our nation.

Please let us know that we can count on your endorsement of these Emergency Measures. Click here to respond.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 10:05 PM
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1. Bump
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 11:40 PM
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2. well . . . I notice that no one is jumping to discuss this one . . .
one of the few concrete initiatives to negate BushCo's ownership of the voting apparatus, and no on cares? . . . guess folks would rather bash the Repubs than take action to prevent their stealing the election again . . . disappointing . . .
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uhhuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 11:43 PM
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3. repost it in GD:2004
a lot of the discussions are going on there.

I'm glad to see it, but I hope we can get congressional support right away.

I'll email my reps...
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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 11:58 PM
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4. Same thing Andy's been asking for
Paper and a pen.

Keep this kicked so people will read it. Doesn't have the lead in, BBV: in the title.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 12:15 AM
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7. You are right Red Eagle, and so have many others as well.
Its nice that some other caring individuals as well took the initiative to actually make it happen.

We should be grateful to them and Bev and Andy and you and me and Paranoid Pat and Elorial, and Lynn Landis, and David Allen and EVERYONE for that matter who have worked on this issue, CARE about this issue in whatever capacity they have been moving it forward.
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Paxdora Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 04:53 PM
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28. Where is GD:2004???
Can you provide a link, please?

Paxdora
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 12:08 AM
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5. I think itll do fine here for now. Why no thoughts?
I know Bev and Andy are interested in focusing on Black box voting, and that's great, AND I think its equally important to keep our minds open to any and all possibilities.

Lets look at all the options and solutions and focus on those that make the most sense.

This is another option, a pro-active piece of legislation that doesnt mince any words and overall I think its a great solution.

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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 12:12 AM
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6. what are the odds of this being dealt with by November?
sorry, but I think this is all just part of the mirage we're being fed that we still live in a democracy.

It's gonna be "oops, we didn't deal with this in time. Oh well!"

maybe I won't feel that way tomorrow
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 12:21 AM
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8. No, that's a concern for me too. I think its important to ask questions
Edited on Tue Aug-31-04 12:21 AM by shance
It does look like a stretch, but i think the key now is emailing the information out to our friends, visiting the website and making sure all our legislators have been contacted. I like that the site has included simple things for us to do. It's concise and I think that's helpful because right now we are all being bombarded with so many issues, but the issue of electronic voting in my opinion must take the priority right now.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 12:30 AM
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9. Quickly, Robin, to the DU Media Blasters!
:headbang:
rocknation
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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 09:03 AM
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10. Keep this one front and center today
Kick!

Net connection behaving for the moment, but I can't access DU much today anyway to help keep it going.

Send this as a request to every legislator, Federal and State, across the country.
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cybildisobedience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 09:23 AM
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11. kick
let's keep this up there
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 09:27 AM
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12. Here is the Link to Their Website!
http://votersunite.org/

What a great Idea! :)
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 10:32 AM
Response to Reply #12
13. Thanks Leftie* Forgot that! Im sending information out to my friends
this morning.

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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 10:34 AM
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14. It's a nice idea. Any idea who they're asking to sponsor it? eom
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 04:48 PM
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17. I emailed Votersunite to get an update of the status of the bill.
Edited on Tue Aug-31-04 04:49 PM by shance
I will post when I hear.
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JohnGideon Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 05:14 PM
Response to Reply #17
19. An Answer Should Be Coming Tomorrow...
if you haven't already got it. Ellen Theisen, my associate is over meeting Dr. Dean to talk to him about EM 2004. This is her area of concern while I am trying to ensure we are able to have our votes counted using certified software in 6 Washington counties.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 05:29 PM
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20. Hi John - I love the Votersunite site - terrific work!
I just headed back over there and saw your name. Very cool. :)

Thanks so much for not only the site, but the initiative to get this going. As a matter of fact, I just emailed Ellen because I read she works more specifically with the activists.

Thank you for the heads up in the meantime. Terrific to hear she is meeting with Governor Dean right now.

Do you have any ideas in the meantime? I have emailed the information to my email list.
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ellent Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 05:40 PM
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33. Met Howard Dean
What a thrill! I shook his hand and even talked to him. He said this Act has little chance because Tom Delay can stall any bill.

But, with enough support, the House can call a bill to the floor. So, the deal is we have to get enough support -- 218 Reps. 292 for a veto-proof majority. We have gotten good reception and interest from the Reps we've contacted. (Some say, "it won't fly but PLEASE don't stop trying.") My Rep, Norm Dicks' aide pledged Dicks' support, though he won't introduce it because he said it needs to be introduced from a committee member. But not if we have enough support. :-)

We have a couple others interested, including two Republicans, but no sponsors yet.

I suggest calling and telling your Rep that this is a one-issue election. "Support the bill, or I'll vote for your opponent." Same for Senators who are up for re-election. Visit them if you can. Or write a hand-written letter. We have a sample up on the site in the "Actions You Can Take" page. If you write a good letter, send it and we'll put it up too so people can have more samples to choose from. I'll be putting up Q&A soon with responses to questions we've gotten and anticipated questions.

Also, I got a call from DFA. They are somewhat interested. When I asked for an email blast, she said they would consider it, but they get so many requests and they have a busy email-blast schedule. So .... if all of you could email to them and request an email blast for this, it might make a difference.

I don't get over here often. Frankly, I'm swamped. But you guys are critical to the success of this effort!!!

Email me and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. It's getting harder to make it through the emails in a timely way, but I always respond -- or send it to John.

THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND WORK ON THIS.

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JohnGideon Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 01:02 PM
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15. kick n/t
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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 04:35 PM
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16. Kick
Paper and pen, hand counting, for the federal races.

They've already done it in a race when there was too much on the ballot for the touch screens. (Think about this advanced technology for a moment....)

It's been done, they didn't have problems, people will get it.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 04:49 PM
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18. This is doable.....
Even if we can get a MAJORITY of counties and states to go along with it, it will have been worth it.

I'm doing it.

:kick::kick::kick::kick:
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 05:54 PM
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22. I agree with you Sue.
I think if we can email our friends and families with the information and plant some seeds right now, that's a good start.*
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drdigi420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 05:32 PM
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21. excellent
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 06:35 PM
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23. This thread needs more attention:
:kick::kick::kick::kick:
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 09:48 PM
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24. Kick. Will follow with interest.
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neverborn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 09:59 PM
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25. This MUST happen!
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 04:11 PM
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26. Get back up there
n/t
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Paxdora Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 04:26 PM
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27. A FANTASTIC STOP-GAP MANEUVER...
to prevent another rigged federal election! I love this idea because I see that it IS doable before November. If the Democrats and "old-school" MODERATE Republicans (who hate Bush's guts) don't jump right on this, there is absolutely no more hope for this country as a democracy. I'm going to the site right now and will turn on every political group I belong to with this great idea...

Paxdora
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 04:59 PM
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29. It's very important that the electronic tabulation system for the optical
scan ballots NOT be used. I'm not real up on the terminology, but as Bev pointed out the other day, this system (Diebold) also uses a double set of "books" and CAN'T be trusted.


the ballots need to be counted BY HAND, with plenty of observers from both parties present, just like in Canada.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 05:07 PM
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30. Just because a voter gets a piece of paper, it does not protect their vote
Is this a voter-verified paper ballot effort? That's the only method of paper produced votes that has been deemed secure.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 05:11 PM
Response to Reply #30
31. We need to see inside those machines. I don't want a sop slip
of paper, I want a vote that really counts.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 07:57 PM
Response to Reply #30
40. Two different issues, although I wanted HR2239 to be more clear in wording
and it remains vague and vulnerable to the discretion of those


EM2004 is what most people, like Andy Stephenson has been stating from the get go, that a paper ballot is the answer.

It is true that a paper ballot is not a sure thing - and as we know, nothing is a sure thing.


However, its more difficult to make a paper ballot disappear than an e-vote.

Paper ballots not vapor ballots.
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Paxdora Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 05:33 PM
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32. KICK!
This needs to be kept on top folks, instead of just reading all the usual whining and rumor-mongering. This can be done, get on the horn!
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ellent Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 05:45 PM
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34. Here's how it could easily work!
In counties that use optical scan ballots and punch cards, no pre-election changes are needed. In counties that use DREs and lever machines, the federal races would be removed from the machines and printed on simple expensive paper ballots to be hand counted. Combining electronic and paper ballots in the same election has been done successfully in the past. In Pompano Beach, Florida in March 2004, one issue was on a paper ballot, and the rest of the races were on the electronic voting machines, and the election was held without problems. http://www.votersunite.org/info/content/mess-up_082004.asp

It would take a short time, less than 4 hours in most polling places, to hand-count the two or three votes for Federal offices on each ballot. In Texas, counties that hand-count paper ballots begin the process after only 10 ballots have been cast. The counters and election observers are sequestered from the time they begin counting until the count is complete after the polls close. In Idaho, counties that hand-count paper ballots use a similar process, starting the counting as early as noon in large precincts.

NOTE: This is not a bill to address the electronic voting issue. We will still have to fight that battle after the election. This is a bill to address the immediate concern about a national crisis. It isn't a vvpb bill, it's a bill about the transparency required to halt the pending train wreck.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 06:14 PM
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38. I'm confused about the word FEDERAL?

Are we saying that if I live in California and I vote at the polling location for Kerry my vote can be on paper?

I just don't understand.
Thanks
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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 12:19 AM
Response to Reply #34
45. correction to post 34
Hi Ellen!

she wrote "printed on simple expensive paper ballots"

she meant "printed on simple inexpensive paper ballots"

Ellen is doing some of the clearest thinking in this entire BBV movement.

Nice to see folks recognizing it and acting on it!
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Paxdora Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 05:58 PM
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35. Talking points for your Reps
Insist that your legislators understand that:

1. ... a questionable, unauditable election in November could lead to massive court challenges and tear the country apart.

2. ... an electronic federal election will result in a national crisis in November, regardless of the election outcome.

3. ... it is the responsibility of Congress to avert a national crisis. This legislation will avert that crisis.

4. ... you will not cast your vote for them in November unless they support this legislation.
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 06:11 PM
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36. Yes!!! Link here!
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 06:11 PM
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37. There's MUCH more to come!
EM2004 is a joint initiative of Voters Unite and my organization, the National Ballot Integrity Project. (Check out our website too htttp://www.ballotintegrity.org.) We're working with about 20 other groups so far, with many more to come. Stay tuned, DUers, it's countdown time!

hedda_foil
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 07:34 PM
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39. Terrific site Hedda. Im so impressed with the support for this!
Keep us posted with whats happening and what we can do to make this measure pass.
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 11:56 PM
Response to Reply #39
44. Thanks shance. Here's what you can do right away
Edited on Wed Sep-01-04 11:56 PM by hedda_foil
Sign up at VotersUnite and start taking the actions listed there! (Hey Ellen! :hi:)

Start posting on the forums at www.ballotintegrity.org.

Start up the DU blaster and forward the email (or cut and paste the text from the top of this thread)to everyone you know.

We're all working our buns off putting the pieces in place to make this happen and DUer,s who've been behind the BBV efffort from day 1, just might be our secret weapon when the final push comes to shove.

DU is the ultimate research and rapid response team, after all! :loveya:



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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:33 AM
Response to Reply #44
47. Great! Ballot integrity has a terrific forum btw***.
Check your inbox when you can HF.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 08:40 PM
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41. So simple, so sweet...
Remember also to remind everyone that laws require recounts have to be part of the process. Ya can't recount a computer, but anyone can count paper.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 10:07 PM
Response to Reply #41
42. Great catch freebe*
as Johny Carson said,

I did not know that**

:)
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Pobeka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 10:52 PM
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43. Excellent idea. Kick! n/t
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:29 AM
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46. Morning everyone****coffee kick
:)
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Paxdora Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 05:37 PM
Response to Reply #46
48. another kick!
Let's keep this alive!
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 06:11 PM
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49. Here's the full text and how to sign up!

Subject: Emergency Measures To Protect The 2004 Vote Count (EM2004)

To Those Concerned about the Safety of Our Nation:

Another questionable Federal election is certain to precipitate a
national crisis, regardless of who is declared the winner. The remedy is
within reach.

Hand counted paper ballots for FEDERAL offices in the 2004 election!

We need your participation to make it happen.

VotersUnite! in partnership with the National Ballot Integrity Project
is asking for your active and unified participation in an effort to
avert the crisis that is quickly approaching.

Recent events have made the following scenario very likely.

There will be election "anomalies". We know this; there always are. Then
there will be lawsuits. Then delays, recounts, and more lawsuits when
recounts can't be done on electronic machines. Then, at some point, a
winner will be announced, but the country is not likely to accept a
winner announced after lawsuits, delays, and who-knows-what basis for
the decision. Not after 2000.

This is not conspiracy theory. It's not a statement for or against
electronic voting. It's a probability based on facts: the extreme
polarization in our country, the rapidly growing skepticism about
electronic voting, the legions of attorneys being amassed by both major
parties, and the abundance of election lawsuits that have already been
filed in recent months.

Time is of the essence. We have less than two months until early voting
begins for the General Election, even less time before absentee ballots
start going out. Concerned citizens have been pursuing many different
avenues to safeguard the November election, and these worthwhile
pursuits must continue. In addition, we must ALL unite in a call for
hand counted paper ballots for FEDERAL offices in the 2004 election --
to avert a national crisis.

We need your endorsement for this critical effort immediately, whether
or not you contribute financially. Email em2004support@votersunite.org
to endorse our campaign and to receive action information as it becomes
available.

In support of these Emergency Measures, the National Ballot Integrity
Project is also engaged in a major fund-raising effort to implement a
multi-pronged strategy to help achieve this goal. The strategy, which
depends upon the active participation of all concerned citizens,
organizations, and activists, includes:

- A coordinated effort with concerned Congress members for emergency
Federal legislation.

- Advocating in face-to-face meetings with county leaders and state
elected officials.

- Sponsoring public events on the state and national level.

- Seeking injunctions in Federal and state courts.

- Providing training DVDs for poll watchers.

- Mobilizing Election Day poll assistance within election guidelines in
support of election officials.

- Airing a major media campaign, consisting of a television ad blitz in
key swing states and on national cable, as well as targeted print,
radio, and internet ads.

We understand that these emergency measures are not a permanent solution
to our election system crisis. In fact, they are minimal, but they are
the only way to protect our 2004 vote count and assure us of an
unquestionable outcome. These measures are essential for November.
Insisting on more or settling for less may prevent us from achieving
even this.

The Emergency Measures are doable, and with little preparation.

* No pre-election changes are needed in any counties that use any type
of paper ballot. In counties that use lever machines and DREs, the two
or three Federal races (President, Representative, and Senator) would be
removed, and a simple inexpensive paper ballot with those two or three
races would be printed.

* Poll workers would stay an hour or so longer to hand count the two or
three races at the precinct and post the results prominently. The many
poll workers currently being organized will add to the security of this
process.

* The manually-counted results will be the official counts and used for
the official tally.

* If tabulation machines are used to count the ballots, this manual
audit will also allow us to evaluate the accuracy of the vote-tabulating
machines.

We believe these Emergency Measures are necessary to ENCOURAGE Americans
to vote with the confidence that their votes will count. We believe they
will increase voter turnout. Certainly they will reduce the strong
probability of costly lawsuits that would otherwise delay the election
results and create chaos. Thus, they will avert a national crisis.
Please unite with us immediately toward this goal.

More information about the plan will be available soon. Email
em2004support@votersunite.org to endorse EM2004 and sign up to receive
information as it becomes available.

Here are actions you can take immediately:

1) Contact Congress and urge the introduction and enactment of the
Federal Paper Ballot Act of 2004:
http://www.votersunite.org/takeaction/federalpaperballot.asp

2) Meet with your county leaders and elections officials, individually
or in groups, to support hand counted paper ballots for Federal offices:
http://www.votersunite.org/takeaction/emergencymeasures.asp

3) Write a letter to the editor of your local newspaper in support of
this plan.

4) Forward this email to others interested in the safety of our nation.

Please let us know that we can count on your endorsement of these
Emergency Measures. Email em2004support@votersunite.org .

Thank you.


National Ballot Integrity Project Task Force - Executive Steering
Committee

Joan Krawitz (IL) Co-founder, National Ballot Integrity Project

Sharona Merel (NH) Co-founder, National Ballot Integrity Project

Ellen Theisen (WA) Founder and Executive Director, VotersUnite.Org

Victoria Collier (NM) Co-founder, S.A.V.E. Democracy

Abbe Delozier (TX) Strategist and Media Consultant;
Texas Coalition for Visible Ballots

Vickie Karp (TX) Board Member, Black Box Voting;
National Chair, Coalition for Visible Ballots

Linda Schade (MD) Executive Director, TrueVoteMD.org

Susan Truitt (OH) Citizens Alliance for Secure Elections (CASE Ohio)

Kathleen Wynne (OH) Founding Member, National Ballot Integrity Project
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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:01 PM
Response to Reply #49
50. Oh Yes! What a great list!
:kick:
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JohnGideon Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:34 AM
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51. kick n/t
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 07:05 PM
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53. Thank you for posting Hedda! Great info to help everyone get started.
Its really important for the legislators hear from us NOW.
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ellent Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 03:02 PM
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52. Great Support!! Packet to help callers now available
We have a list of materials available now. Check http://www.votersunite.org/takeaction/em2004actionsnation.asp

I'm also collecting supportive articles, like one John mentioned to me just now discussing the problems we will have in November with a close election and nothing to recount. I'll be putting this list of articles up in the next days.

Your support is sooooo valuable!
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 08:54 PM
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56. This is a fantastic information package with talking points.
And GREAT letters to Congresspeople ready for your customization with names and addresses. Kudos to Ellen and her team for amazing work on this!
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 08:44 PM
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54. Need information on fax blasting!
We need to fax the legislators and need to have it done by Tuesday.
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 08:52 PM
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55. Great idea! Here's the complete list!!
This is just a snip. It includes all Congresscritters and Senators by state. Found at: http://www.no-smoking.org/feb97/2-17-97-01.html

PLEASE NOTE: To TELEPHONE Any US Senator or Representative, call (202) 224-3121.

The following are FAX phone numbers:



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FAX NUMBERS FOR THE US SENATE, BY STATE:

AK: Murkowski (202) 224-5301
AK: Stevens (202) 224-2354
AL: Sessions (202) 224-3149
AL: Shelby (202) 224-3416
AR: Bumpers (202) 224-6435
AR: Hutchinson
AZ: McCain (202) 228-2862
AZ: Kyl (202) 228-1239
CA: Boxer (202) 226-6701
CA: Feinstein (202) 228-3954
CO: Allard (202) 224-6471
CO: Campbell (202) 224-1933
CT: Dodd (202) 224-1083
CT: Lieberman (202) 224-9750
DE: Roth (202) 228-0354
DE: Biden (202) 224-0139
FL: Mack (202) 224-8022
FL: Graham (202) 224-2237
GA: Cleland (202) 224-0072
GA: Coverdell (202) 228-3783
HI: Akaka (202) 224-2126
HI: Inouye (202) 224-6747
IA: Harkin (202) 224-9369
IA: Grassley (202) 224-6020
ID: Craig (202) 228-1067
ID: Kempthorne (202) 224-5893
IL: Durbin
IL: Moseley-B (202) 228-1318
IN: Coats (202) 228-4137
IN: Lugar (202) 228-0360
KS: Brownback (202) 228-1265
KS: Roberts (202) 224-3514
KY: Ford (202) 224-0046
KY: McConnell (202) 224-2499
LA: Breaux (202) 228-2577
LA: Landrieu (202) 224-9735
MA: Kennedy (202) 224-2417
MA: Kerry (202) 224-8525
MD: Sarbanes (202) 224-1651
MD: Mikulski (202) 224-8858
ME: Snowe (202) 224-1946
ME: Collins (202) 224-2693
MI: Abraham (202) 224-8834
MI: Levin (202) 224-1388
MN: Wellstone (202) 224-8438
MN: Grams (202) 228-0956
MO: Ashcroft (202) 228-0998
MO: Bond (202) 224-8149
MS: Lott (202) 224-2262
MS: Cochran (202) 224-9450
MT: Burns (202) 224-8594
MT: Baucus (202) 228-3687
NC: Faircloth (202) 224-7406
NC: Helms (202) 228-1339
ND: Dorgan (202) 224-1193
ND: Conrad (202) 224-7776
NE: Hagel (202) 224-5213
NE: Kerrey (202) 224-7645
NH: Smith (202) 224-1353
NH: Gregg (202) 224-4952
NJ: Lautenberg (202) 224-9707
NJ: Torricelli (202) 224-8567
NM: Domenici (202) 224-7371
NM: Bingaman (202) 224-2852
NV: Bryan (202) 224-1867
NV: Reid (202) 224-7327
NY: D'Amato (202) 224-5871
NY: Moynihan (202) 228-0406
OH: Glenn (202) 224-7983
OH: DeWine (202) 224-6519
OK: Inhofe (202) 228-0380
OK: Nickles (202) 224-6008
OR: Smith (202) 228-3997
OR: Wyden (202) 228-2717
PA: Specter (202) 228-1229
PA: Santorum (202) 228-0604
RI: Reed (202) 224-4680
RI: Chafee (202) 228-2853
SC: Hollings (202) 224-4293
SC: Thurmond (202) 224-1300
SD: Johnson (202) 228-0368
SD: Daschle (202) 224-2047
TN: Frist (202) 228-1264
TN: Thompson (202) 228-3679
TX: Gramm (202) 228-2856
TX: Hutchison (202) 224-0776
UT: Bennett
UT: Hatch (202) 224-6331
VA: Robb (202) 224-8689
VA: Warner (202) 224-6295
VT: Leahy (202) 224-3595
VT: Jeffords
WA: Murray (202) 224-0238
WA: Gorton (202) 224-9393
WI: Feingold (202) 224-2725
WI: Kohl (202) 224-9787
WV: Rockefeller (202) 224-7665
WV: Byrd (202) 228-0002
WY: Enzi
WY: Thomas (202) 224-1724

FAX NUMBERS FOR THE US HOUSE, BY STATE & DISTRICT*:
Some Names Abbreviated

AK, 0: Young (202) 225-0425
AL, 1: Callahan (202) 225-0562
AL, 2: Everett
AL, 3: Riley, (202) 225-2587
AL, 4: Aderholt (202) 225-5587
AL, 5: Cramer (202) 225-4392
AL, 6: Bachus (202) 225-2082
AL, 7: Hilliard (202) 226-0772
AR, 1: Berry (202) 225-5602
AR, 2: Snyder
AR, 3: Hutchinson, (202) 225-5713
AR, 4: Dickey (202) 225-1314
AS, 0: Faleom- (202) 225-8757
AZ, 1: Salmon (202) 225-3405
AZ, 2: Pastor (202) 225-1655
AZ, 3: Stump (202) 225-6328
AZ, 4: Shadegg (202) 225-3462
AZ, 5: Kolbe (202) 225-0378
AZ, 6: Hayworth (202) 225-3263
CA, 1: Riggs (202) 225-3403
CA, 2: Herger
CA, 3: Fazio (202) 225-5141
CA, 4: Doolittle (202) 225-5444
CA, 5: Matsui (202) 225-0566
CA, 6: Woolsey (202) 225-5163
CA, 7: Miller (202) 225-5609
CA, 8: Pelosi (202) 225-8259
CA, 9: Dellums (202) 225-9817
CA, 10: Tauscher (202) 225-5914
CA, 11: Pombo (202) 226-0861
CA, 12: Lantos (202) 225-7900
CA, 13: Stark (202) 226-3805
CA, 14: Eshoo (202) 225-8890
CA, 15: Campbell (202) 225-6788
CA, 16: Lofgren (202) 225-3336
CA, 17: Farr (202) 225-6791
CA, 18: Condit (202) 225-0819
CA, 19: Radano- (202) 225-3402
CA, 20: Dooley, (202) 225-9308
CA, 21: Thomas (202) 225-2908
CA, 22: Capps (202) 225-5632
CA, 23: Gallegly (202) 225-1100
CA, 24: Sherman (202) 225-5879
CA, 25: McKeon (202) 226-0683
CA, 26: Berman (202) 225-5279

<more .... more .... more> http://www.no-smoking.org/feb97/2-17-97-01.html

FAXERS, START YOUR ENGINES!!!!!
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 10:26 PM
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58. Hedda you always come through*****
THANK YOU******

I'll keep ya posted.

;)



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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 08:57 PM
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57. ALL we have to do is convince republicans that DEMOCRATIC HACKERS
might steal the election. Simple as that. Tell them how easy it would be. Tell them about the anarchist hackers (lol!), and sit back. They will have VVPB implemented in days, not weeks.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 10:39 PM
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59. Great point. One of many examples to show how bi-partisan this issue is.
That is the key. It's about implementing fair and equitable voting procedures.

The EM2004 measure is an emergency measure that should be put into place to provide Americans the confidence that there is an actual RECORD of their vote, and that their vote has been manually recorded and counted.

It is the only method at this juncture to provide the fairest and most transparent election possible.

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