To America: I Apologize For Serving And Being A Veteran

[matcom]

A Letter To America:

To whom it may concern,

From 1987 to 1990, I served in the United States Army, in Germany, as an armored crewman aboard an M1A1 Abrams Tank. Since I served during the Cold War, part of my responsibility was to protect The Fulda Gap. That, we were told, was our last line of defense.

I spent frigid winters training for that assignment and took it very seriously. We faced unbearable temperatures, hostile wild animals, friendly fire incidents (yes they did happen) and long, long miserable nights. I have personally guarded missile silos, stared down Czech guard towers and trained for the worst. Frankly, it was largely a brutal 3 years of my young life.

I entered Basic Training as part of a "Cohort" unit. That means nothing except that instead of 8 weeks of intense training followed by 8 more weeks of "less" than intense training, we were treated like dogs the entire time. This was a new program for the Army Tank Corp but we made it through. Yes, we all signed up for it for "the good of the Army Unit". I was a young 18 when I entered and, despite kicking a drug habit, made it through with all the certificates I could muster and with dignity and honor. This, despite the pain and tears.

I know your first question. Did I serve in combat. No. In fact, I literally missed Gulf War I by HOURS. Such was my fate. However, after 3 long years some of my buddies spent a few days "free" at home before being recalled to the front lines. I don't know if there was a number system or simply the fact that I was newly married but my "number" never came up.

Out of seven 'brothers' who were sent back, 2 came home wounded and 1 never came home. Oh, his body did but he left his soul in the Kuwaiti desert. Such is life I guess.

Doesn't matter. Apparently none of my, or their experience matters. I realize now that it was all for not. In fact, I am (thanks to your guidance) becoming sorry I ever served.

When I used to come home on leave, walking through Dulles Airport in my Class A Uniform, people used to thank me. They knew I was not a 'war hero'. They assumed I had never been wounded. But their eyes. Their eyes were proud of me as a young man.

If I were to walk through the same airport today, I fear I would see band-aids with my ribbons on their cheeks. Not Purple Hearts mind you but my Good Service Ribbons, my Marksman medals, my Ranger Training Ribbon and my Achievement Ribbons would all be "mocked".

Wow. How times have changed. In the 60's, it was the "Left" who supposedly had no respect for military service. That is what "The Right" wanted you to believe. Although many Veterans came home to join "The Left" against the war, there were "radicals" who detested everything they stood for. Today, I watch "The Right" on my television wearing Band-Aids on their faces mocking a Viet Nam Veteran who was in the line of fire, shot at and hit. A man who happens to be running against a man who chose not to serve at all. How respectable.

Their admiration is gone. Their "thank you's" silenced. All for ideology.

What a shame.

My friends Steve and Jimmy came back from the desert with holes. My friend Rupert wasn't so lucky. But that was an easy war. Sorry boys. None of you apparently earned it. The Band-Aids say so.

Had I a fence to throw my peace-time medals over, I probably would. My service apparently means no less than a man who fought and was wounded. We are collectively mocked. The "Left" understands it now. The "Right" apparently talks a good game but it is apparent to me that none of them give a rat's ass. If I don't fall into lock-step with your ideology, I, as a veteran, am not worth your time. Thanks.

Suddenly, I feel like a disgrace to the vast majority of all American's. Damned if you do and damned if you don't apparently.

You call me a traitor because I refuse to support my President in this time and in this place. You spit at me, not for returning from Viet Nam but for DARING to have an anti-Bush bumper sticker on the back of my truck.

I have one thing to say to you regardless if you agree with my ideology or don't. I think I have EARNED my opinion. It is all I have left. I fear even that, thanks to my President, no longer exists.

This Veteran is casting his vote in November. It will be for the 'War Hero'. If you don't like it.... Band-Aid it.

And don't bother thanking me or any other man or woman who served. YOU don't deserve to be that condescending.

It used to mean something to me. You have shown me that it doesn't any longer. Thanks.

Oh, and you GOP'ers and you "Mr." President? Stop the supportive rhetoric. Those apparently are Empty Words.

[Lefty48197]

1. You commie traitor bastard

(just kidding!)

[MuseRider]

2. Nice.

Thank you matcom. :hug:

[slojim240]

3. Can we copy this and e-mail it to the media outlets?

Or will you be doing it?

[matcom]

4. i'm furious and personally drained tonight.

do with it what you wish

[trof]

7. Me and you bud.

And all the doom and gloom and "we're all gonna die" shit around here is pissing me off. I really have to wonder if we're infiltrated by freeper moles.
Here, I'll buy you a drink.
:toast:

[Sugarbleus]

49. Just signed on--west coast here--THIS piece is

BEAUTIFUL, fantastic. I'm completely blown away by it.

Mat, you are the man. I don't know how it's done, but I'd like to use this writing--see if I can get it into my local paper(s)

As for being tired and drained, I understand it too. I HAD to back off a little while today. I may try backing away more this week...body/mind can only take so much.

I don't know you Mat, but I love ya! This is awesome. Thank you dearly for all your work and effort. :toast:

Rest up. SB :hug:

[matcom]

50. i love you too

i GUESS (don't know if its good enough) pass it on too. just my feelings and anger.

Thanks.

thanks a ton.

[coeur_de_lion]

108. It is good

enough, and you *should* pass it on. Very moving piece, thank you.

[wellstone_democrat]

52. I've wondered all day if I too should apologize

I was in during the last year of the Vietnam War so I guess that "failure" is my fault too---although I saw precious few Vietcong in North Dakota, I did see lots of DEW Line missile silos...

What I have learned over the last month is that I was a *fool* for enlisting. "Losers" I heard today (and apparently: "hillbillies") are the ones who enlist. Smart people stay home and "become successful."

So, I guess that if I had a place to send my marksman medal (with cluster) and various good conduct, outstanding unit citation medals, I would. Because I've finally understood that they are valueless. Something to provide a "joke" to fools and ghouls at the Republican convention.

I guess it could be worse, I could be looking at an empty sleeve or pant leg and listening to this filth. Patriots? Not in Madison Square Garden.

[anarchy1999]

86. Never apologize and look for inspiration, Eugene Debs and Smedley Butler.

S.
n/t

[billybob537]

5. Some of us still honor

your service, do not dispair. HELP IS ON THE WAY.

Trears in my eyes, From one peacetime veteran to another.

[1monster]

6. You should media blast this all over, MATCOM.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Wapsie B]

13. I agree.

This needs to be in the New York Times. Very powerful stuff.

I find it absolutely amazing that repugs can sit there and trash a man who stood in the line of fire all the while defending another who was a deserter.

[IronLionZion]

8. I get your point but

there are plenty of Americans who do support and honor the troops despite what the bastards in the RNC are doing.

[matcom]

9. read it again

[henslee]

58. kick.

[Downtown Hound]

10. I nominated this for the homepage.

Powerful words matcom.

[Pachamama]

93. Me too....thanks Matcom!

:kick:

[johnnie]

11. This deserves to be on the front page

And, I do respect your service Matcom. These right-winged idiots spitting on the honor of veterans everywhere should be ashamed of themselves.

[anarchy1999]

12. Dearest Matcom, May I share this with the Texas Truth Convention?

We are having a rally at the Arlington Convention Center, we are having a rally in Austin, in San Antonio and I'm sure Houston is right behind us. We here in Texas do not love Dubya and we want to send him home to someplace OUTSIDE of Texas. There are lots of us here feeling this wayand it is so sad to have the DNC give up on Texas. You would think that Texas would be a state "they" would want to take back.

Interestingly enough, Texas used to be a DEM state. No one can remember, I guess.

www.texastruthconvention.org

[shraby]

15. I sent it to

Keith Olbermann and Tweety.

[matcom]

16. i would be honored

[anarchy1999]

63. I will do all I can to make it happen.

You and your family ar an inspiration.

Sherry

[anarchy1999]

64. I will do all I can to make it happen.

You and your family are an inspiration.

Sherry

[jwirr]

83. Hello Texas

of course we want you on our side and I remember when Texas was Democrat. Keep fighting, when I lived in Iowa we had to register Republican so we could vote in the primaries to elect local officials. Finally Iowa Democrats built their party up so that they are at least as effective as the Repugs are. This year will help as even in Texas you should be hearing what an ass bushie is. Don't give up on yourselves.

[nini]

14. I do believe they may have gone too far this time

I'm sure you're not the only vet who has had it with these so called 'support our troops' hypocrits.

This makes me sick.. If my dad was alive he'd be as upset as you.

Sorry for your pain and frustration - :hug:

[WLKjr]

17. Nominated

You have every RIGHT to be PISSED OFF. I saw pictures this morning and used some expletives I shouldn't have in venting off about these 'band-aids'.

It was just wrong, and they have went to far this time. THIS is their (GOP) new low..

[matcom]

18. thanks. not for the nomination but more importantly for your outrage

i just wanna :puke:

[WLKjr]

21. My stomach churned when I saw them this morning while talking to my mom

I had to read what the lady said and then I blew up. I just kind of gawked at my screen for a few seconds and then went off the deep end in a rant.

I am still pissed off or, for you new englanders, I am so bullshit right now.

:mad: :grr:

[mailman82]

19. no apology needed

Thanks Matcom,from a Disabled Vietnam Vet>

[matcom]

20. Don't thank ME

thank YOU SIR for your sacrifice and your participation HERE!

you touch me.

WELCOME TO DU!!!!

i'm sorry.

words cannot describe my anger and hurt right now.

thank you.

[laylah]

25. Thanks for your service

and welcome to one of the last bastions of sanity in the good ol' U S of A :toast:

Jenn

[PopSixSquish]

22. My Friend, You are a Hero

and you always will be. Since I began reading and posting on DU, you have always made me laugh, made me think and tonight you made me cry. I have no other words of comfort, just a thank-you for your service in the military and in the cause of a peaceful and just America.


:hug:

[matcom]

24. please don't thank me

don't get me wrong, i appreciate it but (apparently) it isn't even real.

thanks though. it means alot from my friends. there are a lot of us here

[Djinn]

23. well said matcom

the whole "not wounded enough" theory would just be ugly and rude where it not being propagated by people who have, throughout their lives, championed a bunch of dodgy or downright illegal wars without EVER putting themselves in the firing line - given that it's completely vom making.

I heard on some news report the other day that Kerry's standing has dropped amongst veterans and hoped that was just some desperate spin on behalf of the pubs - why would they support people who spout this crap??

[wicket]

26. Matcom, you're the reason the Boston area is so cool!

(I'm from Slummaville :D ) You rock Mat!!!

[Cleita]

27. All I can say is that I hate those bottom feeders, because that's

what they are.:grouphug:

Most of us appreciate the service of the young people who defend us and who have defended us in the past. We cry for the young people suffering and dying now overseas for theses godless criminals who have sent them on this mission.

[ALago1]

28. For some reason...

...your writing reminds me of Kurt Vonnegut and I don't know why.

That being said, I thought it was awesome. I'm impressed.

(Oh yeah. Thank you for your service!)

[matcom]

29. thank you for your words

please. don't thank me for my "service"

its worth shit now.

but THANK YOU for your kind words.

i offer this thread as my "penance"

apparently, i have to

[underseasurveyor]

30. What kind of sick and twisted society are we living in?

I mean how sad is it that this is how people are feeling about serving their country?!!! How utterly sickening is it that these thoughts are occuring to even just one Veteran in the first place?!!! Fucking Repiglithugs :grr: May they rot from the inside out.

Damn Matcom, Don't know what to say except, that fucker boosh is out the door in 2004.

[matcom]

31. unfortunately, it won't change much

the photos were NOT of the pResident on the Convention Floor. they were of good 'Muricans touting their "Patriotism" :eyes:

i know who my FREINDS are. i know what "Middle 'Murica'" thinks.

i know.

I Will Remember

[underseasurveyor]

35. I know you know who your friends are.

Yet I can only imagine what it must feel like to be kicked in the gut like that :-(

I know I'm not alone in my rage over this and unfortunatly I know you're not alone in your frustration and anger and feelings of betrayal.
repukes are such disgusting creatures!

:grouphug:

[matcom]

42. YOU are my friend

and i thank you

believe me

i thank you

[Name removed]

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[matcom]

34. thank YOU

why does my pResident CONDONE the wearing of Band-Aids with a Purple Heart Decal on them MOCKING the Democratic Senator????

can you help explain THAT??

thanks

[Name removed]

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[Rose Siding]

38. Oh, no you d'unt

This will *not* be pretty

[Name removed]

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[Rose Siding]

41. Probably because...

telling a vet who vents to 'get help' is an assholian thing to say.

[Name removed]

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[matcom]

33. it looks like this made the front page

thank you.

not my intention but thank you all nonetheless.

i am honored.

and tired.

and pissed.

and... well....

thanks

[Rose Siding]

40. Rest

We already knew what we're up against. It is hard to see it metastasize.

[imax2268]

43. You know Matcom...

I feel what you are saying man...I did not see any hostile action myself...I was in the Persian Gulf at the tail end of the first Gulf War...non the less I was there...and I did my duty during a time of war...and I have medals for it...and now I feel as if my medals are a joke to the GOP...as if my service to my country means nothing because I don't goose step along with their way of thinking...

It's a shame what they are doing...the purple heart bandaid went to far in my book...these people have no shame...it's sickening...

[matcom]

44. a year ago i would have told you that it meant something

and make NO MISTAKE: i KNOW it does

i'm sorry your government doesn't feel the same way.

i really HOPE you do not take this wrong.

thank you for your service BROTHER.

thank you TONS

i HOPE you know of what i speak here.

i'm sorry.

[imax2268]

78. not at all man...

I hear ya...it's a shame what they are doing...

[ilovenicepeople]

82. I hope everyone of those "EVIL" people with the band aids on

develops an ugly sore that never heals right where they stuck those "I am stupid (and EVIL)stickers:mad:

[dave29]

37. This needs to be Kerry's Speech before the Veterans Group Tomorrow

He needs to tear into them for doing this. He stood up and took it when it was just him they were attacking. But now they are taking it to absurd levels - they need to realize they are not playing with toy soldiers and toy medals.

These people who fight and die for us are Americas true patriots.

[PatriotGames]

46. No need to be sorry. There are many of us who still respect and thank

you. Thanks, again.

[matcom]

47. A HUGE THANK YOU TO WONK - IF YOU WANNA PASS IT ON - HERE!!

THANK YOU WONK for the editing - as you are tonight the SANE one!! (sorry all, i'm kinda pissed toinight)

WONK has made this legible if you wann pass it on. Here it is:

To America: I Apologize For Serving And Being A Veteran

A Letter To America:

To whom it may concern,

From 1987 to 1990, I served in the United States Army, in Germany, as an armored crewman aboard an M1A1 Abrams Tank. Since I served during the Cold War, part of my responsibility was to protect The Fulda Gap. That, we were told, was our last line of defense.

I spent frigid winters training for that assignment and took it very seriously. We faced unbearable temperatures, hostile wild animals, friendly fire incidents (yes they did happen) and long, long miserable nights. I have personally guarded missile silos, stared down Czech guard towers and trained for the worst. Frankly, it was largely a brutal 3 years of my young life.

I entered Basic Training as part of a "Cohort" unit. That means nothing except that instead of 8 weeks of intense training followed by 8 more weeks of "less" than intense training, we were treated like dogs the entire time. This was a new program for the Army Tank Corp but we made it through. Yes, we all signed up for it for "the good of the Army Unit". I was a young 18 when I entered and, despite kicking a drug habit, made it through with all the certificates I could muster and with dignity and honor. This, despite the pain and tears.

I know your first question. Did I serve in combat? No. In fact, I literally missed Gulf War I by HOURS. Such was my fate. However, after 3 long years some of my buddies spent a few days "free" at home before being recalled to the front lines. I don't know if there was a number system or simply the fact that I was newly married but my "number" never came up.

Out of seven 'brothers' who were sent back, 2 came home wounded and 1 never came home. Oh, his body did but he left his soul in the Kuwaiti desert. Such is life I guess.

It doesn't matter. It's as if none of my, or their experience matters. I realize now that it was all for naught. In fact, I am (thanks to your guidance) becoming sorry I ever served.

When I used to come home on leave, walking through Dulles Airport in my Class A Uniform, people used to thank me. They knew I was not a 'war hero'. They assumed I had never been wounded. But their eyes. Their eyes were proud of me as a young man.

If I were to walk through the same airport today, I fear I would see band-aids with my ribbons on their cheeks. Not Purple Hearts mind you but my Good Service Ribbons, my Marksman medals, my Ranger Training Ribbon and my Achievement Ribbons would all be "mocked".

Wow. How times have changed. In the 60's, it was the "Left" who supposedly had no respect for military service. That is what "The Right" wanted you to believe. Although many Veterans came home to join "The Left" against the war, there were "radicals" who detested everything they stood for. Today, I watch "The Right" on my television wearing Band-Aids on their faces mocking a Vietnam Veteran who was in the line of fire, shot at and hit. A man who happens to be running against a man who chose not to serve at all. How respectable.

Their admiration is gone. Their "thank you's" silenced. All for ideology.

What a shame.

My friends Steve and Jimmy came back from the desert with holes. My friend Rupert wasn't so lucky. But that was an easy war. Sorry boys. None of you apparently earned it. The Band-Aids say so.

Had I a fence to throw my peace-time medals over, I probably would. My service evidently means no less than a man who fought and was wounded. We are collectively mocked. The "Left" understands it now. The "Right" superficially talks a good game but it is clear to me that none of them give a rat's ass. If I don't fall into lock-step with your ideology, I, as a veteran, am not worth your time. Thanks.

Suddenly, I feel like a disgrace to the vast majority of all Americans. Damned if you do and damned if you don't, apparently.

You call me a traitor because I refuse to support my President in this time and in this place. You spit at me, not for returning from Vietnam but for DARING to have an anti-Bush bumper sticker on the back of my truck.

I have one thing to say to you regardless if you agree with my ideology or don't. I think I have EARNED my opinion. It is all I have left. I fear even that, thanks to my President, no longer exists.

This Veteran is casting his vote in November. It will be for the 'War Hero'. If you don't like it.... Band-Aid it.

And don't bother thanking me or any other man or woman who served. YOU don't deserve to be that condescending.

It used to mean something to me. You have shown me that it doesn't any longer. Thanks.

Oh, and you GOP'ers and you "Mr." President? Stop the ostensibly supportive rhetoric. Those are Speciously Empty Words.

[agincourt]

48. Best post,

that I've seen on this subject, I am impressed.

[obiwan]

51. Matcom- first of all, welcome home...

...second of all, thanks for your service and for protecting all of us knuckleheads from the Soviet Union. You are a braver man than I am.

I think you'll find that DU is not a band of wild-eyed anarchists that want to destroy America.

We are rational, thinking people who call a spade a spade, and speak out when something or someone is wrong or unjust.

We are patriots in the truest sense, and I feel you are too. We love America; so much so that we don't want to let anyone or anything destroy her. America doesn't just belong to the Radical Right; it belongs to EVERYONE.

Once again, welcome, and thank you for your service.

[ignatius 2]

53. Matcom, thank you for your service and for all you do on this board in

trying to get rid of the real asses of evil..Bush Cheney and co.

My dad is a WWII vet and a good democrat. He never talks about the war, I think he has real painful memories but he is mad as hell about what the lower than whale shit repugs did last night. Not only do they dishonor all vets and soldiers, but they are causing much pain to many who have served their country and have put things they had to do in war behind them.

Thaks again, you are a good man, Charlie Brown.

[Jaybird]

54. fuck 'em matcom...

fuck 'em all....they aren't going to get away with this shit...believe it dude.

every last one af those fuckers will pay

[marlakay]

55. Wonderful post!

I put a Vet for Kerry sticker on my car today. My husband is a nam vet and when I picked up more stickers to hand out this week to my volunteers I knew I had to keep one for myself.

With all the hoopla out there this one speaks the most.

[Craig Roberts]

56. As someone who never served in any capacity

I have always honored and respected those who did regardless of the fact I have always been a leftist. I'm not old enough to speak for the 60's generation. I just know it has never been a personal controversy for me - veterans deserve respect. And I agree, it has been shocking to see the Republicans sneering at and mocking veterans the way they have been. It confirms the increasingly inescapable conclusion that these people have no integrity or decency. I hope that's not true of all Republicans or conservatives, and I hope many of them will vote against Bush in November. But it very depressing.

I hope you and other veterans do not feel this way after November. If Kerry wins, I think you should take that as a repudiation of their anti-veteran tactics. I think they have been backing away from their initial attacks because they know it is not resonating with Americans.

We love you guys. Don't ever doubt that.

[stevedeshazer]

57. I'd thank you, but

You said not to. :)

[tishaLA]

59. Thank you so much, Matcom

you've said so much, so eloquently, that needs to be said.

[anarchy1999]

60. Dearest Matcom, May I share this with the Texas Truth Convention.org

Subject: Dearest Matcom, May I share this with the Texas Truth Convention?
Message:
We are having a rally at the Arlington Convention Center, we are having a rally in Austin, in San Antonio and I'm sure Houston is right behind us. We here in Texas do not love Dubya and we want to send him home to someplace OUTSIDE of Texas. There are lots of us here feeling this wayand it is so sad to have the DNC give up on Texas. You would think that Texas would be a state "they" would want to take back.

Interestingly enough, Texas used to be a DEM state. No one can remember, I guess.

www.texastruthconvention.org

[Wonk]

67. See posts #4 (he says ok) & #47 (for a proofread and edited version). nt

[underseasurveyor]

72. Isn't Wonk the BEST!!!!!!!!!

:bounce:
A DU gem I've always said :loveya:

[anarchy1999]

85. Thanks ever so much, my computer seems to be acting up this evening.

or it may be me.

Once again, thanks ever so much. I just got word that GrannyD is going to send Texas a special shout out. I'm very excited to hear about it. The good Rev Al Sharpton was going to come but we could not afford his fee of $25,000. And then today apparently, Martin L. King the III (or II), couldn't make it because the we said no to $15,000.

I've got to admit, I am just a little dammned confused here now. Is this how we win?

I can't wait to have someone read your eloquent statement, Mat. I just might have to do it myself. The last time I took the stage was the night they started dropping the bombs and I read from Eugene Deb's speach from Canton Ohio, 1916 expressing his support for jailed antiwar protestors.



" Every solitary one of these aristocratic conspirators and would-be murderers claims to be an arch-patriot. Every one of them insists that the war is being waged to make the world safe for democracy. What humbug! What rot! What false pretense! These autocrats, these tyrants, these red-handed robbers and murderers, the "patriots," while the men who have the courage to stand face to face with them, speak the truth, and fight for their exploited victims -- they are the disloyalists and traitors. If this be true, I want to take my place side by side with the traitors in this fight! "

Go here to read the whole speech:
http://www.pbs.org/greatspeeches/timeline/e_debs_s.html

Please keep in mind everyone, this was 1916 and this man went to jail for this speech.

Also go do a google and Smedley Butler and "War is a Racket"

We all have lots of work to do.

[CHIMO]

61. I Don't Know Where To Start

As a young person we are all willing to believe in principles and that we are going to sign on. It is our nature. We want truth and something to stand for. It has always been.
From where I am today I would have to say that the hardest thing is to be able to deal with life. It will throw things at one from out in left field. It is hard to deal with.
As a young person one is invincible and life is no problem. However, from my perspective, life is going to throw everything at you.
Death of loved ones, people gone astray, our principles being undercut, whatever it is could happen.
My philosophy right now is to roll with the punches, stand back and then reconsider things.

[azval]

62. Thanks

Thanks for saying it. My son is an active duty Marine in Najaf currently and while I am relieved he hasn't been hurt, I can't help but wonder if he were, in 20 years is there someone who is going to denigrate his service? He already earned a medal for his first time in Iraq, is there some dirtbag in the future who is going to question it? I am about as liberal as they get in Southeast Arizona but I am not ashamed to say I love the Military. I am also a Veteran from the Cold War days (1979-1981 and one of very few women soldiers), when I really believed the Russians were rolling over the Fulda Gap at any time. I am so angry at the Bush administration for the way they wear the flag when they want but at the same time tear down those who did the actual fighting. Anyways, there are still people who honor military service out there.

[obiwan]

65. God bless your son, Adval...

... I hope he makes it home OK.

[abburdlen]

69. Served from 1989 to 1992

In the US Army. I went to Saudi Arabia and Iraq In Desert Shield/ Desert Storm. I remember the all the words of support from stateside while there. When we returned there were ticket tape parades in the streets. Though I didn't feel I deserved praise- I did little more than sit at a desk moving paper from one pile to another- most of us felt that the applause we received should be shared with the the veterans of Vietnam who never got the thank you they deserved.

You are right Matcom, this week I learned to many it none of it mattered. I never have felt like I was any kind of hero but having served I better understood how much others have given. It is for those folks that I'm disgusted by the Band-Aid crowd & the Swift Boat crowd, Bob Dole's political hardball & Bush mock praise. The media's equal time to all claims however lately false.
I'm also ticked at those here who wonder how do we use this to our greatest advantage. I know you are well meaning and I'm looking forward to getting rid of the current administration as well but some things are out of bounds. We can call them on their insensitivity without sinking to their level.
Too many wounds are being opened up by this crap and it must stop.

Thanks Mat for helping me find my words.

[trogdor]

128. May God keep your son safe.

And welcome to DU.

Regular Army 1982-1997 (Germany, Korea)
Reserves 1997-2004 (and happily retired, thank God!)

[calimary]

129. Yes, we DO still honor military service here.

Welcome to DU, azval. Thank your son for his sacrifice - on our behalf also.

It's just ashame what these people have done. I don't know what's worse - what they actually did and said, or what makes them believe in it so fervently.

They may not burn the flag, but they sure are happy to burn the people who served under it.

I hope the Kerry people make a campaign commercial out of the purple heart bandaids.

[Longhorn]

131. Welcome to DU!

My son is an active duty Marine, too, though he was just sent to Iwakuni, Japan, so he is out of harm's way for the time being.

I'll keep your son in my thoughts and hope for a safe and swift return. Thanks to him for his service, to his family for their sacrifice, and to you for your service and raising such a fine son!

[Sparky McGruff]

66. But, Newt Gingrich says it's "funny"

Newtie wouldn't lie, would he? (only with every single breath, I guess)

You should feel proud of having served. I thank you, and any decent American thanks you.

The Bushistas destroy so many things that they touch, all for political gain. I'm a scientist-- a profession I'm very proud of -- and it's hard to explain the damage they are doing to science for political ends. Some of this damage, I fear, may last a long time. I guess that's minor compared to the damage that's been done to our standing in the world. The rest of the world sees us as dumb bullies -- and with regards to Bush, they're probably right. What's sad is that they do these things to score points in a political game, and I suspect that they KNOW the damage that's being done. They just don't care, as long as they get more money, more votes, more power.

[Tight_rope]

68. May they all burn in HELL!

[coder]

71. Repugs have hit a new low

I served 20+ years in uniform, from Viet Nam to Desert Storm, and yes I've got a Purple Heart. So did my father, he was wounded at Bataan at the start of WW II. Two of my uncles earned them when they were wounded on D-Day, one at Omaha Beach, the other at Utah Beach. I'm glad for the first time that they have all three passed on, cuz if they were still here they would be out hunting Republican blood. In just a short time starting with the Swift Boat Liars for Bush and finishing with the Purple Heart Band-aid the GOP has succeeded in insulting every man and woman who ever wore the uniform of this country all the way back to the Revolution that their sacrifice doesn't mean shit. They worship Dubya and Go Fuck Yourself Cheney as real American Heroes, even though they are both moral and physical cowards. I hope this trash with the bandaids will finally convince the Vets out there that the Republican Party could give a rat's ass about them or the people who presently serving today.

[ignatius 2]

75. Wonderful 1st post, thank you for your service. Now let some of

your friends know if they don't already about the purple heart band-aid smear.

Many tears and much blood has spilled for what those medals represent.

[blm]

70. Well, matcom, are you ready to march with other vets to the White House?

Seems to me that should be your plan of action.

[AngryOldDem]

73. Thank You For Your Service and For This Essay

Please, please share it with as many people and in as many media outlets as you can. Everyone needs to read this.

[jokerman93]

74. Bravo Matcom

Hang in there bro. There's more of us then there are of them.

Fellow Vet,
Jokerman
1st Bn 1st SFG(A)

[LiberalUprising]

76. Thank you matcom

As I read your letter, I am hearing the Harlem Boys Choir on the tv singing Glory, Glory Halehua at the RNC.

I just don't know what to say anymore.

[hobbit709]

77. Apologize for being a veteran

I served in the Air Force 1969-1973 and I feel the same way.
How dare these bastards?
I emailed Col. Hackworth and this is his response to my email almost immediately.

"Thx. Am looking into this. Probably will write something on this latest insult to our heroes soon. Hack"

[ismnotwasm]

79. I wish we supported all our Vets better

I've been a long time lurker here, and have been so busy, even
though I did finally sign up, am still unable to post much. 
But I have cared for Vets from just about all American wars in
the last century (not quite!)long term care facility I worked
for, most need far more than they get.  My daughter is a
soldier in Afganistan, currently here on two weeks leave.  She
is a single mother, and we have our grandchild for her year
deployment.  She joined the army seven years ago, and will
have eight in when she finally is allowed to get out. She is a
good soldier, a motivator.  She knew being in the army might
mean she would go to war, and was emotionally prepared for
it.She will not reenlist.  She tells me that they redeploy
soldiers from Afganistan to Irag, and vice-versa.  She tells
her son "Mommy has to go away, because her job is really
important" I avoid talking politics with her because she
says she is a victim of politics, and literally cannot stand
to hear about it.  She wants to do her time and come home to
her son. She is bitter. And angry. I'm going to ask her,
because it hadn't occured to me until I read your post, if she
feels like her service means anything.  If it doesn't, that
explains a lot.  Thank you for your insight Matcom, because
this mothers heart breaks every time she looks into her
daughter's eyes.

[DinahMoeHum]

104. Welcome to DU, friend.

Our thoughts and prayers go out to you, your daughter and your grandson.

:grouphug:

[DemonFighterLives]

80. Another Serviceman

I did my time 77 - 80 in Germany before the wall came down. The East Germans were about to come across at any time (not really). The hostages were taken by Iran and B*sh daddy and Raygun shipped weapons all over the place to steal the election from Carter. My time was not valuable either, I couldn't even join the VFW and the Legion did not accept you unless you served during combat. Of course Grenada vets(win one for the gipper) were able to join.

I now see that all GI's are expendable. You do the nations bidding and then have some chickenhawks make fun of you. I'm stealing a copy of Matcoms writing to show some Freepers who laugh at Kerry and the bandaid story.
:dem:

[Dhalgren]

81. Very moving letter, mat.

If ever there was a time when the people in power have said right out loud that the soldiers of the US military are nothing but dispossable tools, to be used and discarded, to be wasted and then mocked, it has been these past few weeks culminating in the "Band-aid Purple Hearts". I don't know what to say to you except, you have stood up every time you were called on to do so - don't stop now.


US Army 1972-75

[greblc]

84. Right on.

I will forever take pride in My own and all other Veterans Service. No matter what political spin others may put on it. It's mine they can't take it away and I wont give to them. How could any Egocentric Neo-Con Chicken Hawk understand Military Service? They have no ability to empathize.

Let them challenge our service they may need more than a Band Aid.

[Dem2theMax]

87. I sent this to places where I hope it will be read, discussed,

posted, printed, and thought about for a long time to come.

Matcom, both of my parents served in WWII. When you are raised in that kind of family - well, I can't NOT thank you for your service to this country. The people on this board KNOW who's in the right and who's in the wrong. That is why we are all here. And you sir, are in the right. I wish I could make the hurt go away for you. I know I can't. But I'll keep doing everything I can on my part to make sure that Mr. Kerry has the word 'President' in front of his name come November 2nd.

:grouphug: for all the vets.

[Tsiyu]

88. tears in these eyes

Matcom, don't you be ashamed about anything. Big'n, you have much to be proud of and we love our Vets more than we can express.
Here's something to cheer you up:


As I exited to go on an Air Force base this evening, I shot a big fat bird for all the Vets. Coming down the mountain is treacherous on a dry day, so I let this yahoo see if he could do it better than this old mountain gal. He was riding my booty ( Pass or get off my...).
Anyhoo, as he sped by I noted the */Cherny Sticker on his car, and he no doubt noted my Kerry/Edwards sticker in the rear window next to a picture of some Vets i know.

He couldn't handle the curves, the downhill or the speed, which was cool because it became symbolic at that moment. Who would make it to the finish first? ( Okay, dumb road trip game, but I was bored.) I was ahead but then I LET HIM PASS ME. Damn!

When he pulled to the right in fear I slid past and kept it at well, a very high rate of speed, but no more than my normal hillbilly self. I beat him by half a mile at least. Then Karma ( and a bunch of sweet truckers) kept him off my butt. He finally caught up to me as I exited, stuck behind two semi's side by side on the two lane. Perfect Op.
As I exited next to the big "Air Force Base" sign, I showed that wuss what I think of their bandaids.

Childish. But damn, I felt better....Love you matcom :yourock:

[JohnnyRingo]

89. "Impactive".....'Nuff said

[leftbend]

90. Great letter Matcom

Thank you for speaking for us Veterans. I wish the mocking freepers could experience even a fraction of the pain and ruined lives that many Veterans endure daily as a result of their service. Where would they put their purple heart band aids then? How dare these bastards do this to people that have given everything on their behalf. I have never been a hater, but its difficult not to hate these rnc jerks. Thank you Matcom.

[Swamp Rat]

91. Republicans hate veterans.

They just use them until they're dead... and even after they are dead.



Yes, republicans hate veterans. Since they hate my father, uncles and cousins, I hate them.

[Carla in Ca]

92. Oh, Matcom

I loved your letter. My husband was drafted in 1968 and only by luck of the draw did he go to Germany, not Vietnam. They went down the line after basic and his unit got Germany. He is as much a hero to me which ever place he would have been sent BECAUSE he would have gone to Vietnam. "It would be my duty to go" he says.
My mother said, about 6 months ago, that it didn't really count; he wasn't "in war".
I have not talked to her since.

[namvet73]

94. THE GOP OWES US VETERANS AN APOLOGY!

Sorry, but I do not apologize.

As far as I am concerned, Bush not only should denounce the Swift Boat Veterans..., He should personally apologize for this contempt toward veterans!

I served for four years, but did not get any purple hearts and I am glad! I never knew any GI who WANTED a purple heart. I'm sure Kerry did NOT want his. Ribbons get awarded to you, sometimes without your knowing it. I got out of the service in 1973 without knowing that I had received the Vietnam Service Ribbon and the Vietnam Campaign ribbon. My WWII veteran father pointed it out to me on my DD form 214 (discharge document).

My first year of service was technical training. My second and third years of service were cold war service at K.I Sawyer AF Base where we had to work on Airplanes, sometimes at 30 degrees below zero in blizzards. There was 270" of snow the first year there. We maintained B-52s, some carrying nuclear weapons and KC-135 tankers. For the fourth year I trained for service in Vietnam and was assigned to Tan Sun Nut AB in Saigon, but was, fortunately re-assigned to duty in Thailand to repair F-4s in 100+ degree temperatures. The skin of the aircraft was hot as an iron. The water tasted like formaldehyde.

I missed all four Christmases and my sister's wedding. My father's hair turned from black to gray. I also had "better things to do" than serve.

Many of us don't actually see direct combat, but do jobs none of those GOP conventioneers would think about doing.

I hope Pat Peale doesn't hear the last of it.

To me, every veteran is a brother or sister, including John Kerry. When you serve you become bonded.

So, for GOP conventioneers to mock John Kerry for his service is a personal insult as well as an insult to all veterans. Bush got us into the war. The least he can do is insist on decency to all veterans. John Kerry gave specific orders not to attack character in the DN Convention, although it was violated in some cases.

Nope, I do not apologize! I await their apology!

This further alienates me from Republicans and gives me more resolve to get get Bush out this November. If he wins, we should work to get him impeached!

Thank you
Namvet73 (Former SSGT USAF)

[WindRavenX]

95. excellent letter matcom

:hug:

[Norbert]

96. I've sent this to my brother, a Vietnam vet.

I've never spoken to him since this latest barrage of purple heart band-aids but has been upset about the Swiftboats for Smear, saying that this has crossed a line he thought would never be crossed. He served in the Air Force at Cam Rahn Bay(sp?) for 11 months. It was not front line and not the most hazardous duty to pull but he went over when called to duty.

I can't imagine that if he had chosen public service as his calling and had somehow become the presidential challanger to bush that his service to his country would have been minimized and and ridiculed in much the same fashion as what they are doing to John Kerry.

I reiterate in a more somber tone what I said yesterday evening about those sporting those "cute" bandages with the magenta hearts on them. "Don't honor my brother's service in Vietnam." "Don't honor my fathers service in World War 2." They don't or didn't support the party of choice, they would get slandered and their service would be belittled if they would step in the way of "Great Americans" Goerge W. Bush and Dick Cheney. Please don't honor them. Your words mean nothing. Your words are just slogans. Your words actually hurt now because there isn't a hint of sincerity in them anymore.

[matcom]

100. would be interested to hear his reaction n/t

[Norbert]

101. I will fow up on that

.

[Zech Marquis]

97. you're not a traitor

hell, just by seeking to enlist in the Army made you more patriotic than the creatures infesting NYC fr their roach hotel convention :evilgrin:

[Jon8503]

98. Great Point Of View, Agree Completely

Served in Vietnam & I feel the same way. To me it is totally amazing how they are getting away with twisting and lying and really attacking any veteran that does not go along with the republican line.

They talk about supporting the troops, honoring the veterans service but this only applies to those veterans that join them. If you choose as us to have another point of view, than the hell with your service.

Why the hell can't people see this besides us?

[BlueCollar]

99. My sea-service ribbons (79-83)

probably don't mean shit either. 12 hour days, 7 days a week, 180 days at a time, snow, ice, rain

separated from family and friends Christmas, dogwatch on Thanksgiving day...

Fuck it...

I'm with you matcom

I'm voting for Kerry and I could give a shit less about the empty rhetoric coming from the right

[EstimatedProphet]

102. Matcom, you've outdone yourself. Wonderful letter

You did a great job of dissecting the hypocracy of the Republicans. You should send this to every paper in the country, because everyone needs to see it.

[mopaul]

103. your apology is accepted

in the razor sharp sarcascitc way it was intended. satire is a strong sword.

i did not think that they could further descend in discourse since the 'you're not a patriot' days, but they figured out a way. they have a real tight braingrip on their sheep. i've never seen anything like it in all my days. they play hard ball.

AT LEAST YOU SHOWED UP FOR DUTY matcom. at least you did that. you're a better man than the 'president' at least.

[RandomKoolzip]

105. My father came back from serving in a VA hospital during the Vietnam War,

having spent his tenure there stuffing the corpses of young men into body bags, and decided he was going to spend his life and his time on earth promoting the cause of pacifism. He marched on Yale in the front lines with the Black Panthers, did all he could to help end the Vietnam War and taught me that War is almost never justified. He instilled in me a deep hatred of War and the warmongering spirit. I am a dedicated pacifist myself now.

John Kerry didn't exist in a vacuum; his career trajectory (war hero>vet speaking out against the war) is archetypal for a generation. You don't come back from seeing the things both John Kerry and my father saw without having been changed in some fundamental way. You get to questioning "why."

My father, who is now unfortunately deceased, would have had his heart broken by this post. I know mine is.

[Blue_Roses]

106. its very sad for me to see that you

and many other veterans (my parent were veterans of WWII--both in the Army--mom a nurse in the south pacific, dad in Normandy, France) have been slapped in the face with this blatent disrespect for what is good and honest about our country. I know my dad is rolling over in his grave now. All that, for a fat lady with a triple chin to wear glittered-colored bandaide. What a fucking joke. :(

[lapislzi]

107. Thank you for serving, matcom

Many in this nation are still deeply grateful for your service. We are in the majority, and we will prevail.

[LWolf]

109. If there is one truth about the Bush administration, it is this:

Everytime you think they've reached the limits on hypocrisy, disconnection from reality, blatant falsehoods, and Orwellian doublespeak, they surprise you by going even further.

After 4 years, I shouldn't be asking myself, "How can anyone possibly not see the total manipulative, self-serving, contradictory bullshit that this is?"

But they still keep surprising me.

The militarists; the "troop supporters" mocking military service while planning a draft to make sure that no young man or woman is left behind.

They've left sanity behind along with respect and integrity.

[SiouxJ]

110. Thanks for putting into words everything I was thinking yesterday

No, I never served, but if one has any shred of a soul at all, one can perceive how their disgraceful antics would make a Vet feel. You don't have to have served to see that they just slapped all our Vets in the face. I've been thinking about it for 24 hours now and I just get angrier and angrier. These are our compassionate conservatives. I can't remember ever witnessing this kind of gall, ever. At this point, I wouldn't put anything past them and people should consider that if they are undecided on who to vote for. With their "no low is too low" attitude, they will do anything given another 4 years. These are the type of people they want running our country? Cowards that attack heroes?

[HawkerHurricane]

111. Thank You, Sir

From another non-disabled vet.

I, too, missed the Gulf War by a manner of 'tactics and bluff'... I was told to be ready for the Marine's amphibious landing, which you know never happened.
But I was ready to serve.

What would have happened if it had happened, and (god forbid) I had been injured, then decided to run as a Democrat?

I would be smeared, I'm sure.

If I ran as a Republican?

I would be lauded.

Hypocracy, thy name is GOP.

[fob]

112. Matcom, as a civilian who's never served, I SALUTE YOU.

That was powerful, put that with Bandit's, and put it in a commercial and folks you got a Kerry Landslide.

[Beam Me Up]

113. Thank you; wish I knew what to say.

I read this last night, matcom, and like so many, was very appreciative of your honesty. This whole ploy makes me very angry and also very sad.

Although I'm Vietnam vintage, I am not a veteran. I opposed that war--war in general, really--and used the fact that I'm gay to avoid the draft. (In those days homosexuality was thought of as a mental disorder worthy of a 2-F {if memory serves, which it may not} classification.)

Have you seen the movie "Born on the Fourth of July"? If not, you may want to check it out. I watched it again recently and it brought that era all back to me again. But, more to the point, it underscored that there is little difference between 'that era' and now--indeed any 'era' since Vietnam and possibly before it.

There is something very important here, I think, that deserves some deep psychological ferreting out. I don't know that I'm qualified to do it, although I can 'sense' it. It has to do with social DENIAL. Right Wingers live in a fantasy world, a 'reality bubble', where they--and by extension, their country--can do no wrong. They don't like ANYONE who punches holes in that 'bubble' or who threaten their ability to sustain their fantasy and denial. So, for example, vets returning from a war that has questionable moral integrity, especially wounded vets, especially wounded vets who upon returning take a position in opposition to the war and the society of denial that allowed it to happen--indeed, needed it to happen--all this creeps under the skin and becomes a kind of dis-ease. People in denial do NOT want to be CONFRONTED and if you are brave enough to confront them, you can expect to get the full brutal force of that denial.

These ghastly 'patriots' sporting purple heart band-aids are sick people in denial about their own guilt, their own complicity, their own rage and shame. They see nothing wrong with what they are doing. They never do. When you tell them their 'little jest' is a VIOLENT act, they look at you with fear and rage, like you are insane.

You have nothing to do with them. You are obviously facing your own questions and feelings--a very brave thing and a very difficult thing to do. We, all of us, have much to be forgiven for. Ultimately we are all only human--with all the weaknesses and potential for greatness that that implies. If only we can learn to BE human.

Thank you for your sincerity, honesty and integrity.

[TNOE]

114. Kick

:kick:

[fdr_hst_fan]

115. I was in my teens when Vietnam was raging,

and I thought that war was wrong, as a lot of other people did, and we were proven to be right. But I never spat on any returning soldiers or called them "baby-killers"; I knew that some guys did do that, but they were a minority-the rest of them were decent guys. I was sorry they had to be sent there, to fight a useless war for a people who didn't want us there to begin with (sound familiar?). I'm also sorry we have to send troops to Iraq to fight an illegal war for someone else's unsatisfiable greed. Bush and Cheney and the other Nazis can lie all they want to; their lies won't change the facts: this war is illegal, and history will prove it to be so. And to demean Kerry's war record, and his Puprple Hearts, is to demean EVERY soldier who ever serves, whether he or she is wounded or not. If I were of draft age TODAY, I'd tell Bush and Co to go to hell! They'd either have to jail me, or I'd split to Canada! If people wanted to hate me for being "unpatriotic" or "cowardly", then at least I'd be ALIVE to be hated, not dead for someone else's greed and being (maybe) moourned.

[Name removed]

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[matcom]

117. your PRESIDENT slapped it in my face!

and continues to do so!

HOW as a VET can you support this man?

i hope you are allowed to stay for a while to explain your devotion to your party after what they have done to Kerry, YOU & ME

YOUR PARTY made me ashamed even as they send more off to DIE

[Name removed]

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[Sparkly]

119. You're kidding, right?

Do you have a TV? Read newspapers?

[matcom]

120. he is a fucking DECORATED VETERAN!!

who risked his fucking LIFE!

Swift Boat Vets anyone?

you wonder why i am OUTRAGED over these Band-Aids?

are you FUCKING KIDDING ME??

[RetroLounge]

121. Where the fuck have you been????

on edit: AssHat already got tombstoned.

RL

[prodigal_green]

122. Both this letter and Bandit's post about his 11 year-old grandson

need to be blasted to all the media.

I'm sure there are several other honorable veterens who feel the same way.

It makes me sick.

btw, I just contacted my local VFW to find out about volunteering.

[Ramsey]

123. Beautiful

But I hope that with a truly honorable commander in chief and a rational humanistic foreign policy, you can once again be proud of your service.

:loveya:

[matcom]

130. I love you hon.

but i don't think that is likely to happen. this is how the pukes now feel apparently and that ain't gonna change. just WAIT what they try and do to Kerry once he is elected.

naw, i think i'll just lay low and work on the future while forgetting some of the past.

:loveya:

[ChickMagic]

124. Allow me to still thank you for your service

I missed out because of physical problems - I took the test, did the interviews, all that jazz, but I didn't make it. I love your letter - it's the damned truth. But just the fact that you served puts you light years ahead of the "president" in terms of moral high ground. I luv ya, Matcom! :hug:

[noiretextatique]

125. i can't think of anything more shameful than those bandaids

and awol george smirking about kerry's voluntary military service. you are so right...it's a vulgar slap in the face to all veterans, and it's sickening.
thanks for your service, and your opinion.

[seabeyond]

126. beautiful malcom, thank you n/t

[democratreformed]

127. Speechless....

I am speechless - yes I am. I am crying for you and so many others who are made to feel that your service and honor are meaningless. I am so saddened by what some of us have become.

Please know this: In the coming months, I will take up the fight to restore honor and dignity to the White House - and, by extension, all Veterans everywhere who honorably gave of themselves for the rest of us. Hell - I have already taken up the fight. I WILL continue onward, SIR!

[Longhorn]

132. Mat, you've brought tears to my eyes.

I missed this yesterday so I'm glad it was brought back to the forefront today. There should be outcry after outcry about what those idiots have done yet the silence is deafening.

Thanks for taking the time, as painful as it is, to share how you feel. As an American, the daughter of a sailor, daughter-in-law of an airman, and mother of a Marine, I share your outrage.

[cowboykiller62]

133. Dad is a vet

My dad served with the 101st airborne from 1968 to 1971 and was in vietnam for 2 years. And he is going to vote for Bush. Lol funny story, my sister asked my dad why he didnt go to woodstock and my dad said he was walking around with an m16. LOL

[matcom]

134. funny

m*therf*cker

how do you feel about your party trashing other Vets?

you have an opinion or do you get your "news" from Mallard Filmore?

[matcom]

135. i would appreciate an answer

i hate to kick this but as my last great act of defiance, i think i (and your Dad) have earned it.

[matcom]

136. i'm sorry you were tombstoned before i got an answer

i really am.

but, sadly, i think i KNOW what you would say.

:eyes:

have you NO COMPASSION????

do you not SEE what your party is doing to US?

[wrate]

137. How can anyone call himself/herself American and at the same

time support a group of people (repugs) that literally shit on what should be one of the most sacred symbols of their democracy, their War Heroes?

HOW?

[Name removed]

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[KBlagburn]

139. I am a USAF Desert Storm Veteran and.....

I stand and salute my brother(s) and fellow veteran(s).

[NewYorkerfromMass]

140. Awesome Matcom! nt

[StlMo]

141. Truly impressive post, Matcom.

It is indeed shameful what the GOP has done.

[jukes]

142. eloquent piece, Matcom

cdnt nominate because time limit expired, but this is front page material.


w/you 100%, my brother.