Screw my Karma: I'm going to gloat my ass off!

[Tyler Durden]

There is a Bushite Clown here at work who during the 2000 election said I needed a shirt with "LIBBIE" on it and target on my forhead so "Real Americans" like him (Republicans) could keep track of me. He was an active Bush supporter, spreading campaing literature everywhere he legally could (and sometimes where he illegally could). After the "Selection," he congratulated ME on my "Birthday Present" (my birthday is December 12th, the day the SCOTUS "Selected" Bush). He then posted a 2' x 2' poster that said "Seal of the Democratic Party" around the face of an infant throwing a temper tantrum, and kept it up until last year.

He belongs to a Maintenance Company of the Michigan National Guard, and he just got his orders: before Christmas, he and his unit will be reassigned as MILITARY POLICE and sent to patrol the corner of ISLAM and MOHAMMED streets in good ol' DOWNTOWN BAGDHAD.

In my not so humble opinion, he has gotten what so rightly deserves. As so many have not deserved to go to the most dangerous job in IRAQ, I can think of no one I know who should be sent than this person, and I am far from alone in this opinion. The Leftists here have made it known amoungst ourselves that we believe he bought this fate, and for once, someone who did so can now PAY for it.

Call me an asshole, I don't give a shit. He wanted Bush, he can enjoy the consequences.

[drdigi420]

1. tit for tat, dude gets just what he deserves

[niceypoo]

77. Now he can be the "real american" he brags he is!

Wonder how he feels about his hero Bush now?

[TNOE]

2. Agree

and I'd tell him that if he should happen to get shot - you hope he bleeds enough that it will matter to his party. I wish they'd all just shut up and sign up. Go fight for their pResident if they love him that damn much. Good riddance.

[Eloriel]

12. That's a good line --

And you could remind him of how little they care about the wounded, the dead, their medical needs once home after being wounded, vets' benefits, etc.

You can also remind him that they don't even think very much about Purple Hearts, since they've been wearing them on bandaids.

Edited to drive the point home: IOW, they don't much give a damn no matter HOW much he'll bleed.

And btw, gloat away. I think no one should have to serve unless they've been gung-ho Bush and gung-ho Iraq War.

[trotsky]

3. If only ALL * supporters would have to personally fulfill his promises.

It's quite easy to "rah rah" and cheer invasion after invasion, but something else entirely when YOU'RE the one whose ass is on the line.

[bloom]

4. How is acting about this?

Does he act "happy" to be serving his country? Just curious.

[Cat Atomic]

5. What does he think of his new assignment?

Is he anxious to do his "patriotic duty"? I'm curious.

[Tyler Durden]

13. He is REALLY SHOOK UP.

And I say to that too: GOOD. He bought the package; time to pay the piper.

[AP]

24. That's a mixed metaphor. It shoudl be something like, "he got the song,

and now it's time to pay the piper."

Or, I don't know, there's something even more apt.

The metaphor is the pied piper, I believe. The pied piper got all the rats to follow him out of town, right. And the citizens didn't pay him. What happened? He lured their children away? Right?

The rats were the voters who followed Bush's song. Bush didn't get what he wanted, and now he's taking the children too?

[ronnykmarshall]

37. Ahhhhh poor widdle baby!

:nopity:

[mitchum]

54. Please tell him mitchum says, "Tough shit, bootlicker!"

[Cat Atomic]

60. Well, what do you know! Justice. That is truly rare.

[Bunny]

6. Your karma isn't involved in this.

This is HIS karma, coming back to bite him in the ass! As long as you're not actively wishing him physical harm, you're covered. So gloat away!

Maybe this is exactly what he needs to fully understand what he's been so gleeful about for the past four years.

[belle]

16. My favorite Somerset Maugham quote (on karma):

"I do not believe that I am a vindictive man; but when the immortal gods take a hand in the matter it is pardonable to observe the results with complacency."

[Bunny]

25. I like that.

I've never heard that before. It's really quite fitting, isn't it?

[TahitiNut]

7. Give him a sign that says "I Support Bush" (with a target on it)

... that he can wear while in Iraq. Tell 'im the target is so the Iraqis can throw roses at him. Then give him a PHart band-aid - and tell him that's what his fellow Republicans think he deserves. (Those roses have thorns, ya know.)

[TeeYiYi]

11. Good one Tahiti . . .

. . . *lol* the target is for the roses. Hand him the PH bandaid for just in case he gets nicked by some shrapnel or scratched by a bullet. Ha ha. He could give him a whole box of PH bandaids as a going away present. :7

TYY

[jasmeel]

8. Thrilled to hear it!!

My only concern is for the Iraqi's who have this dickhead to look forward to.

[in_cog_ni_to]

9. Bye...bye...freeper!

Don't let the door hit ya on the way out! :hi:

[Ready4Change]

10. Wish him the best, hope he returns safe.

Unlike many of his Bush supporting cohorts, he's putting his life where his words said he would. I may not agree with his politics, but I won't talk down on him.

Someone who's about to face bullets and roadside bombs deserves better words as the last he may hear from me. I'll save searing rhetoric for chickenhawks.

[Tyler Durden]

14. Oh he's not happy about this.

He's let it be known that if he could get out of this, he would.

Tough shit.

[in_cog_ni_to]

15. Tough shit, is right.

HE voted for the SOB...now he can wallow in the glory of his COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF...in Iraq. No sympathy from me. NONE.

[gratuitous]

18. You never regret taking the high road

At least to his face, wish him the best of luck and that he comes home safely. Just as you would for any other human being put into that hellhole.

But feel free to come here and tell us all how this jerk is wetting himself now that the inevitable conclusion of the policies he supports have landed so squarely on him.

[dave29]

22. agreed

He may be facing karma, but that doesn't mean you won't get hit by a truck tomorrow. We shouldn't spit on people's potential graves.

[democrat_patriot]

19. Wanna get out? VOTE FOR KERRY!!!

eom.

[Ready4Change]

34. Ah, well, that's a bit different.

Sounds like he's still got some lessons to learn. I hope he won't learn the ultimate one. (Or any of the others which are just as bad, in their own way.)

But as you say, tough shit.

[progressivebydesign]

45. Your co-worker is speaking as a real Bush patriot!

"if he could get out of it, he would"! Oh, that's rich. Bush-lovin' patriots like him, trying to get out of serving their country, when they agreed to do so, in the event he was needed.. especially after talking up Bush and the GOP. I don't wish the man any harm, I hope he and his family make it thru this okay... but it is interesting to see, firsthand, how brave these people are when it comes time to put up or shut up.

We have a friend who was trained as an MP in the National Guard in the past few years. When the Iraq war was just starting to become a possibility, he pulled some strings (his family are wealthy GOP), and he was released from serving any further. He only put in a year to the Guard.. and he is now home free. Or maybe he isn't... it would be interesting to see someone who attended town hall meetings, proclaiming the Democrats as completely wrong for protesting the Iraq War, then found a loophole to escape serving in Iraq, face the prospect of going over there.

Such are the chickenhawks. Does your coworker know what that means?

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

68. Disgusting (your connected "friend"). So he gets out of the NG as

quickly as he can when he sees war's a comin'. But he still supports the war, and shrubco, as much as ever? And has the temerity to criticize those who protest it?

I mean, at least if some of these people just acknowledge they are greedy and want their rich guy tax cut and that's it, no pretense about other principles, I wouldn't like it but I could respect the honesty. Guys like this should just hide in their hole and be happy that they got out of this nightmare before it really got rolling. Going to town hall meetings and decrying protestors. Gimme a break.

[progressivebydesign]

71. You know.. I've always suspected it's the greed.. not the patriotism. N/T

[kayell]

48. Tell him to try to transfer to Alabama like his hero* did

oh...that won't work anymore, will it. Too bad.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

65. Maybe he could "work something out" with Harvard Business School.

Oh I forgot, only works if you are in the shrub family.

[RummyTheDummy]

83. Fuck that

I hope he gets his ass shot off. Live by the sword, die by the sword. Now he can put his rhetoric into action. He can see if he stacks up against the best THEY'VE got. It's always the gung ho types who get wasted first.

[belle]

17. My favorite Somerset Maugham quote (on karma):

"I do not believe that I am a vindictive man; but when the immortal gods take a hand in the matter it is pardonable to observe the results with complacency."

[npincus]

20. typical...

...they have no qualms about sending OTHER people's sons and daughters into the Iraq shooting gallery.

[truebrit71]

21. Don't wish to appear mean but....

..fuck him....He voted for the twat in the first place, now he gets to reap the "reward"...If he whines about it, just tell him to "Get Over It".....

BTW, it is HIS karma coming back to haunt him....NOT yours....

This is the problem with ALL rethuglicans...they act all tough and macho...but when the time comes to actually put up or shut up they cry like a bunch of 5 yr-olds....

[depakid]

23. He's getting EXACTLY what he deserves

I guess you can call me an asshole too, but I think that the more Republicans who suffer personal consequences from their policies the better. I have no sympathy for them whatsoever.

[Surf Cowboy]

26. Wonderful.

Really. This is what is needed. For the "no consequences" Bush supporters to actually have to live his dream. When all their jobs are gone, none have health care, and all their kids are getting shot to shit for some dumbass chickenshit war monger, then maybe they'll wonder if they've been had.

We all know better though--when that happens, they'll just blame the liberals!

[fdr_hst_fan]

27. I'm sorry; I guess I'm not a very good person,

but if that yahoo had treated ME the way he did YOU, this is what he'd get from me: "Isn't it a shame your daddy isn't rich, so you could get a cushy Guard position like your Commander-in-Chief did when it was HIS turn to fight, like it's YOUR turn now! By the way, here's a little something to remember me by-" and I'd hand him a t-shirt with his picture on it in the middle of a bullseye! The freeper bastard would get NO SYMPATHY from ME!

:evilgrin:

Revenge is a dish best sereved COLD!

[sniffa]

28. can i share this story

i think it's wonderfuL. :D

[Wind Dancer]

29. Who is he voting for?

[DS1]

30. Tell him you'll reserve him a parking spot for when he comes back

and give the fucker a handicapped tag.

[Clinton Crusader]

31. if he gets shot....

he better make sure it's a horrific wound or his own repug friends will 'band aid' him too..

What you give is what you get returned.
:kick:

[VOX]

32. If he supports * and the RW agenda, he should go and serve with pride...

After all, as a Bushite, he should stand firm in the conviction that he's helping sow the seeds of democracy in a land hungry for freedom, etc., etc. He should be thoroughly pumped up about this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity afforded to him by his commander-in-chief. He has a chance to have flowers thrown at his feet by a humbly appreciative Iraqi population. His party has told him repeatedly that this is how it really is in Iraq -- does he accept his party's stance on this or not?

He can't have it both ways, as much as he'd like to -- all the "sorry I can't go, I have other priorities" slots are have been taken up by his party's wealthier constituency.

[ET Awful]

33. Give the asshole a purple heart bandage and tell him

to keep it handy just in case.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

35. Give him a bandaid wth a purple heart on it and tell him that's what

his party will think of him should he get wounded and disagree with the war when he comes home. He is living proof that people get the government they deserve.

[Jim__]

36. As a going away present ...

... you could give him a bumper sticker with "4 more years" on it.

[Ishoutandscream]

38. I hate to say it, but he deserves it

Instant Karma took 4 years, but he's now getting his.

Wonder who he'll vote for in November?

[ncbiker]

40. LOL

That boy got what he deserved!! I bet he wishes that Gore was Prez now! LOL!!!!

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

67. Instant Karma's gonna get you...

Gonna slap you in the face....
Better get yourself together...
Join the human race!

[calimary]

39. MAN, I'm torn on this one. YES it's his karma and NOT yours.

YES he deserves this - since he was SO for the "bring it on" boob.

And I would LOVE to gloat straight into his face. Too much Catholic guilt for too long, though...

You MIGHT, if you see him, just mumble something about "sorry to hear that, man - I sure tried hard to stop this war so people like you wouldn't have to get sent over like this." And you might GENTLY add - "hope you don't get wounded. Some yahoos at the convention this week would laugh at you and give you a purple heart bandaid, and then probably start questioning whether you just made it up. What a shame..." And then wander off.

I'm having a similar battle within myself. Freeper-type artist I know crowed like a rooster immediately after Selection 2000 about the party she was going to attend in a few days. She said she knew it was going to be full of Gore supporters and she intended to go, wearing her cowboy hat and boots and that she intended to gloat. Every day I find myself wondering what I'll do when Kerry beats bush, and I see her. I did do one thing. She invited me to an art show and sale and I attended. And walked around. And ate the food. And talked to friends. And left. After saying hi to her, too. At the end of our conversation, she hinted around a little, saying hopefully, "I'll wrap up your painting for you..." I smiled sweetly and excused myself. I wouldn't buy a painting from her if she becomes the next Van Gogh.

[ronnykmarshall]

43. I love your story.

Ms Freeper walks around mouthing off and then wants you to buy her crap art.

Too much.

[calimary]

51. How 'bout that? I don't think she conected the dots.

Perhaps she doesn't even remember that post-Selection encounter. But I sure do. And I was CLEAR in my revulsion to the outcome. Later on in that same encounter, by the way, she and another bush-supporter friend (who had NOT been boasting about wanting to gloat to anybody, by the way) suggested that I send one of MY art pieces (since I'm an artist, too) to the bushes. I gaped at them in genuine horror and told them I would NOT want my creations owned by those people. So she clearly knows how I feel about bush. We've seen each other numerous times since then, and it's always been civil.

By the way, after the "I'm going to gloat" encounter, I resolved not to buy or wear cowboy boots, either, until LONG after the bushies are gone. I don't EVER want to be mistaken for a bush supporter by the way I dress. In fact, I'm not sure I may EVER buy a pair of cowboy boots, at all.

[AmerDem]

41. Karma, my friend is what this repuke got for himself!

It all balances out in the end. Thanks for this post!

[Name removed]

42. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[RandomKoolzip]

44. If I may quote rapper Common here:

"Payback is a grandmother."

[Tyler Durden]

46. I probably won't rub his nose in it.

Although I would purely LOVE to. He made a great big deal when the war started about us going in to "...save the Iraqis from themselves..."

What a patronizing fool.

[JETS]

50. You should get him a T-shirt with a bullseye on it

His "war president" is now going to send him to Iraq to be target practice for the evildoers.

[kayell]

47. I can't believe this went on at work for so long

It's a classic case of creating a hostile workplace. Are your employers total fools?

[mitchum]

49. Sounds like the kind of smug asshole who may get fragged

[mitchum]

52. Please keep us updated until his deployment...

something tells me that he is the kind of weasel who will try to avoid his "patriotic duty"
Don't worry about your karma, it's fine. But that piece of shit certainly got bitten on the ass by his, didn't he?

Thanks for your post, it really brightened my day :)

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

53. Libby... target... forehead... he should be in JAIL FFS!!!!!!!!

But I'll settle for Iraq and join you in evil satisfaction.

Tell him he's spreading happiness through all corners of the world. :evilgrin:

[kispoko]

55. yeah

i agree with some others' sentiments, of public etiquette anyway, tell him you hope he stays safe..... it's going to be some kind of hell for him anyway even if he does stay well. so sit back on that, not open vindictiveness, and tell him since you are a REAL AMERICAN, that's how you handle these situations when they come up :)


but this about made my day, thanks for passing along. if everyone were made to suffer some of the consequences for their actions, taking *real* responsisbility and not just talking about it while others do so in your stead, things might change a little...... it's the only way.

[Mandate My Ass]

56. I'd commiserate, that would really chap his ass

Something along the lines of "I hope you come back safely because Bush's cuts to veterans' benefits are resulting in many vets waiting months or even years to be seen stateside. Oh, and their drug benefits have been slashed to the bone (no pun intended). Not to mention the veterans hospital closings at the worst possible time. If you get hungry over there because Halliburton is serving rotten food, us libbies will be here to help you out with a care package. Good luck, you're going to need it."

[Jacobin]

57. I can't think of ANYONE who deserves his fate more

He wanted Smirky, he got Smirky.

Now he can do the Smirky dance.

Fork him.

[coalition_unwilling]

58. I've read the entire thread and, as a quasi-lapsed Buddhist,

think I know a thing or two about "karma".

First of all, your co-workers' karma may be not so much getting sent to Iraq after supporting Bush. (That's a bit simplistic interpretation of the principle of 'karma'.) Instead, your co-worker's karma may be that going to Iraq offers him the opportunity to replace ignorance with wisdom.

Remember that gloating by you(and some posters' hoping he gets wounded in Iraq) may be incurring a karmic imbalance for you and those posters as well.

Having said that, and noted the W. Somerset Maugham quotes, I'd like to quote a saying by La Rochefoucauld (17th-century French epigrammatist): "There is something in the misfortunes of our friends that does not deeply displease us."

By the way, Buddhists never really lapse. But I have stopped practice.

[PassingFair]

75. That German word ...

Schadenfreude


It's only human!

[Bluebear]

59. Bury the hatchet, throw him a nice going away party!

Personall I would get olive drab and taupe streamers, something really festive; butI would forego the cherry bomb tomato appetizers and the cake in the shape of a Humvee. Anyhow, you get the idea. Make it a big, big sendoff and thank him for his service to our country! Hopefully by then we will have a new President-elect and his deployment won't last too long. If not, encourage going away gifts of toiletries and entertainments that will last him at least a year and a half. I love parties!

[burrowowl]

80. I think this suggestion is the best

noblesse oblige! Or politeness can be the greatest insult.

[OneTwentyoNine]

61. Tell him not to let the door hit him in the ass on the way out.....

It would be one thing if he just voted Repuke in 2000 and let it go at that. Nope,had to grind it in that Dems were whiners when all they wanted is legal elections for both parties.

Fuck the SOB,hope he enjoys his little em..vacation. Har har.....


David

[Joefess]

62. Rub it in his face every chance you get.

.

[NuttyFluffers]

63. it is true that revenge is best left in God's hands

only God could be so creative and accurate in administering appropriate punishment.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

64. Now, if only we could have a draft, drawn from the pool of people voting

for shrub.

It's a lot different, cheerleading for this crap when YOU are the one liable to getting blown up by a mine or RPG.

Even if this guy makes it out of there in one piece, he will at minimum have to endure half a year to a year of probable substantial pay cut, crappy food, deplorable living conditions/hygiene, and UNBELIEVABLE heat.

Unless they've improved things substantially since my friend, who is a senior officer (O-6), was stationed there.

[Tsiyu]

66. If he pays his dues and opens his eyes

he may be a new Democrat.

[scarletwoman]

69. I think the thoughtful thing to do would be to congratulate him!

Big smile, pats on the back -- "Wow, guy, that's GREAT! You're going to be part of your Great Leader's historic project of liberation! How proud you must be! You've been given the marvelous opportunity of REALLY showing your support for pResident bush*, by personally helping to spread democracy and freedom in Iraq! Good for you!" :D

sw

[Jokinomx]

79. Scarletwoman... I have read all the posts and I like your response

Of all the opinions posted here... I like yours the best. A person doesn't have to be rude or obnoxious... as you have shown with your post. Just agreeing that he was right in the first place... he is helping free Iraq, good for him. We need people like him to do what is right... Wish him well and a safe return. Then I would let him know that I was taking a nice vacation to my favorite spot in the world and would send him a post card.

:bounce:

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

70. Seriously though, what was this guy thinking? If he stayed in the NG, and

didn't expect to get his ass shipped to Iraqnam or Afghanistan? :shrug:

Do these guys even read the freaking newspapers? Do they have ANY IDEA of what is happening? I guess they must not or else they might not be such fans of the boy king.

I spent 15 years active duty and planned to get out even before shrubco because the military was getting stretched rather thin even before the shrub. I tell anyone I know contemplating reserve or guard service that unless they PLAN on going to Iraq or Afghanistan for at least a year they should do something else, because they can pretty much COUNT on going.

Anyone who joins ANY branch of the military, active, reserve or NG, and assumes they are NOT going to go to Iraq or Afghanistan, is woefully uninformed, misinformed, or in serious denial.

[Tight_rope]

72. That's wonderful news...need to send more Bush supports to Iraq!

[Green Lantern]

73. Check in with him when he gets home and see

if he is still a true believer.

[HEyHEY]

74. Any reaction to his new found place of employment?

Or has he just shut up?

[sendero]

76. It would be a better world....

... if the criteria used for selecting people to go to Iraq was the vehemence of their support for the war.

What could be closer to justice?

This is the most heartwarming thread I've read tonight.

[2bfree]

78. Praise be to God!

LMAO! :)

[AnnitaR]

81. Tyler, please don't take the high road!

He didn't and wouldn't if the roles were reversed! Use some of the suggestions here and give him a little taste of his own medicine. He deserves. He's like all the rest of those damn Chickenhawkes! Loves War as long as it somebody else's blood that flows!

Please give him hell!

[RummyTheDummy]

82. GLOAT ALL YOU WANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He's getting EXACTLY what he deserves. Things can get ever so tedious over there. It's a crapshoot, really. Keep us posted.

[0rganism]

84. Be sure to give him a farewell card...

...maybe something with a desert background, and a circle with a big crying baby face front & center.

Put it on a goin' away package with safety glasses and a pack of smokes, cos you know he'll be needing them.

[loudsue]

85. This is quite a thread, Tyler Durben. I've got an idea here....

After reading all the replies on this thread, and after contemplating the post by our 'lapsed' Buddhist, coalition_unwilling, (concerning your co-worker's opportunity to replace ignorance with wisdom) I think there's a way for some healing to take place...for both you and your co-worker.

You say your co-worker (let's give him a name...how 'bout we call him "Bob") is pretty nervous about his up-coming comeuppance. And, as a freeper-type, he surely didn't see the relationship between his enthusiasm for bush, and the probable human consequences of that support.

And if our Buddhist friend is correct (which I believe he/she is), "Bob" is probably feeling the 'wisdom' beginning to set in somewhere close to his tail-bone (the root chakara...where our basis is....also related to where he's about to mess his britches). But it may not be really clear to him, at this point, that there is such a glaring relationship between dubya and what "Bob" is facing.

And, the truth is, he may find it comforting to hear it from someone, in an understanding way, that there ARE people in this country who understand that there are THOUSANDS of reluctant soldiers like him, already in Iraq, who us "liberals" are supporting, and trying to bring them home. NOT because we hate them, but because we UNDERSTAND that unless we, ourselves, would be willing to go over there to fight and die, then we should not be sending ANY AMERICANS over there. You can explain that Dems aren't out just for themselves, or just for their party. That we feel that, if something is good enough for ONE American, it's good enough for all of us.

It's important to let him know that his reluctance to be in Iraq is the same reluctance you would have....no different! But you can point out to him that the reason you did not support bush was also because you felt that he would be the kind of president that would only support the wealthy, and wouldn't have respect for EACH, INDIVIDUAL American citizen, as he would his own family. And that you didn't think bush's level of maturity concerning the gravity of the job of President was sufficient that you wanted to trust the well-being of your fellow citizens (and co-workers) to his stewardship.

Tough talk is real easy when it's not YOUR ass on the front lines, and you just felt Al Gore would have been more "reserved" (isn't that the word the media hounded Gore with??) than to send American citizens to a country that had not done anything to the U.S., and had nothing to do with 9/11. You might point out that "reserved" doesn't make for a glitzy personality, but it also doesn't get people's loved ones killed in a hot desert, half-way around the world.

Well, Tyler...you get my drift. My guess is the guy could use someone to talk to, and it's a great opportunity for you to offer your support to someone who surely needs it. At the same time, it gives you the opportunity to pass on some 'wisdom' about what INCLUSION means to the Democratic party.

Compassion is the way to heal all emotional wounds, and you certainly suffered some wounds at the hands of this guy. And compassion, when expressed in strength, is a powerful teacher.

:kick::kick::kick: