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IrishBloodEngHeart Donating Member (815 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 10:47 PM
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Is Frank Luntz really that stupid
1) Why does Tweety not introduce him as Republican pollster Frank Luntz?

2) Does he really believe all of his swing voters believe Kerry is soft on terrorism and are super pro bush? All of his "swing" voters found Zell very convincing.
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Chomskyite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 10:49 PM
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1. Luntz picks everyone who gets into his "focus group
He's a fraud. He's the "focus group" equivalent of a push-poller. No one with any serious grasp of politics doubts that. And if you do doubt it, watch how he leads the participants with his questions. He sounds like an elementary school teacher trying to get them to say the right things.
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 11:32 PM
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9. Agreed.
It's transparent. Thankfully some of his "focus group members" are smarter than he is and thwart his efforts. :-)
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 10:49 PM
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2. Did he poll them about his atrocious rug?
If Luntz swung from anything his hair-piece would fall off...
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annxburns Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 10:49 PM
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3. Luntz hand picked a group of freepers
That was totally clear.

But what MSRNC promote this as "Zell Miller rocked"

Bleech.
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 10:50 PM
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4. It is a cherry picked audience
Edited on Wed Sep-01-04 10:50 PM by xray s
Luntz is pathetically trying to spin the psycho meltdown of Zell Miller into The Greatest Speech In The History Of Humaity.

What a loser.
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 11:34 PM
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10. Ah...
This makes sense now.

I've been talking about some of Luntz's findings from the Cheney speech. I must have missed his kneeling at the altar of Zell. (That sounds freaky.)

Ah well...I'll keep up next time. :-(

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 10:53 PM
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5. It's all smoke, mirrors, and bullshit! And not necessarily
in that order. frankieluntz is a mook.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 10:56 PM
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6. Only 1 or 2 big minded Dems in the group
My goodness, they even liked Cheney. They're Cheneyed!
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 11:26 PM
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7. Won't matter
Anyone who is undecided this late in the game is an idiot. They most likely have the attention span of a gnat and will have long since forgotten Zell The Cracker's speech by election day.

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Protected Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 11:31 PM
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8. His "live" graphs are crazy junk
They showed at least 50%+ of the "Dems/Independents" always giving a favorable rating to the Cheney and Zell speeches. Either all of his "independents" were Republicans or his computer can't add properly.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 11:40 PM
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11. Luntz is the sole manufacturer of election-winning words and phrases
This guy is the Oxford English Dictionary of fuzzy-warm vocabulary. Look at the results of his work.

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Chomskyite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 11:41 PM
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12. That list of words was leaked to the press when he worked for Newt
n/t
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