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Doomsayer13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 10:49 PM
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compare the keynote addresses - Miller vs. Obama
Obama's speech was full of optimism, stressed unity in these times of trouble, and was an eloquent defense of the Democratic way. Obama is a youthful rising star, the fresh new face of the Democratic party and a new breed of straight talking, honest, and bright politicians.

Miller's was a vicious rant filled with lies and half truths fed to him by the RNC. He was soundly destroyed on CNN after his speech and could barely provide a coherant answer to the simple questions that Wolf and Co. proposed. He's old, nearly senile, and retiring - the face of the Republican party. Vitriolic and unrepentent.

Which brand of politics will America choose? Obama's politics of optimism or Miller's politics of divisiveness?
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the Kelly Gang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 10:52 PM
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1. Obama's speech was inspirational
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 10:55 PM
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2. And Yet! WE have people in this Country who say...
"zell was more convincing because he's a democrat"!!!

What Planet are they from?
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 02:56 PM
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10. I agree. I'm getting the same response at work.
People think they are smart because they "put that together," never realizing that that was the whole trick.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 10:55 PM
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3. I loved Obama's speech...I think the whole damn Dems convention
was optimistic...this Repub convention was a disgrace. Doom and Gloom.
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YNGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 10:58 PM
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4. Face It
>Which brand of politics will America choose? Obama's politics of optimism or Miller's politics of divisiveness?

The country is going to remain divided either way. I think we all need to recognize, if we haven't already, that neither side will ever rally behind the other side.
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Doomsayer13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 11:00 PM
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6. I think we're all tired of being divided
I'm so tired of this partisanship and divisivness. I can't turn on the TV without being insulted becuase of my political affiliation. I think this country needs someone to heal it's partisan wounds.
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YNGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 11:04 PM
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8. That would be nice.
But I don't see it happening in 2004.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 02:46 PM
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9. I hope that don't mean you believe we won't win....
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 03:05 PM
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13. You're right, but don't expect it from the GOP as of this moment.
I know there are Republicans who are unhappy with the philosophy of destroying the opponent rather than winning on merit. I know there are Republicans, including very distinguished ones, who have been the victims of Bush snubs and smears. I know there are plenty of Republicans who can work in a bipartisan way, who have camaraderie and perhaps even affection for their Democratic and independent colleagues.

But they don't control the party, that nasty old bald man and the undeserving plutocrat do, and they are disciples of Richard Nixon, Joe McCarthy, Lee Atwater, and Karl Rove. Those unholy, hellish people may well destroy this country.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 03:07 PM
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14. The Republicans are too heavily invested in division
No money to be made in unity. People at each other's throats means more dough for the uberclass. Or at the very least, you're too concerned with fending off an attack to wonder why things are the way they are. I think it was Father Romero who said that when he fed the hungry, people called him a saint. When he asked why ther were hungry, people called him a communist.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 11:00 PM
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5. Obama - UNITED STATES of america ...rethugs don't believe in that
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 11:03 PM
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7. Easy choice
... for me. But the thing is, so many people in this country operate on the fear factor, prone to believing such vicious lies from Miller just because he sounds tough, props the Bush campaign with a flag and Patriot missile. Miller looked downright vengeful and mean when he spoke -- a far cry from the hope and moral clarity that sprang from Obama.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 02:57 PM
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11. Hitler did the same thing and his speeches played pretty well
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 03:01 PM
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12. A fine wine versus vinegar.
Barack Obama's speech looked towards the future, embraced the American people, called on our best instincts. There was an openness and expansiveness to it that I found refreshing.

Zell Miller's speech looked to the past, prodded at the American people's fears, embraced hatred and contempt and invited Americans to sink to their worst instincts.

I saw a scowling old white man and a fresh-faced African-American. No prizes for guessing which I'd like to have a discussion with and which I'd dread having for a neighbor.
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