I suspect the Russians thinks their tragedy is worse than 911

[skjpm]

God forbid anything in the world be worse, but I suspect this absolutely evil attack against children is seen to be as more important to those it happens to than 911. But of course, they're over there, and they're not as white, so what happened to us is infinitely more important.

I pray for them. I absolutely hate this. And yes, I blame Bush, for inciting terrorism throughout the world.

[Kazak]

1. Does it really have to be a horserace?

What does that prove?

[skjpm]

3. Yes! 911 is worse than any tragedy ever! Are you anti-American?

Those parents should look at their kids' bodies and think how lucky they were it wasn't 911! Our tragedy changed everything! The world changed! Their kids are just dead, and for that, they should be thankful!

[veracity]

9. That's pretty arrogant.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were far worse than 9/11...no matter what the rationale. The Shock and Awe bombing of Iraq - killed far more people than died in 9/11. Our tragedy was terrible, but there is something really horrific about people who don't recall the blitzing of Britain, or the seige of Stalingrad. People die in political conflicts all the time.. and it's ALWAYS horrible. To set American lives as more valuable, and our tragedy as more horrible is to follow the GW Bush attitude that we are better than other people. The Holocaust was far more horrific than 9/11 as well. Does that minimize the horror of 9/11? Does it always have to be a contest about whose deaths are more important?

[xcmt]

11. Long live Vonnegut.

Nobody ever remembers Dresden.

[Cascadian]

12. Murder is murder is murder.

No matter how big or how small. All are tragedies. I cannot believe the shallowness of the statements made in the initial posting. Russians love their children as much as anybody else in the World. The loved ones who have lost their own or those lying in the hospital beds must be going through hell.


John

[renegade000]

13. i think (i hope)

that was sarcasm

[Gore1FL]

17. Psst

You are mistaking Sarcasm of GOP talking point with an actual statement!

He's kidding.

[NEDem]

15. Why is an American life more valuable than a Russian life?

You arrogant flag wavers disgust me!

One dead human is no better or worse than another dead human, just because someone is of one nationality or another doesn't make their life more valuable.

I'm so sick of this nationalistic crap going on. In case you haven't noticed, no matter where you live in this world, we're ALL in this shit together.

[madmax]

2. I saw Putin visiting the injured in the hospital.

Has George been to Walter Reed? Yes, but no cameras to show his compassion??

If he tries to visit now it will show his true colors. Photo-op pres.

Bet Putin will be attending funerals, also.

[LosinIt]

4. Of course it is to them, but it's not some sort of perverted race

one thing was that it wasn't one swift blow and then you deal with the consequences, it was drawn out over days as the parents agonized over the fate of their children.
what scares me is it could so very easily happen here.

[Deja Q]

5. Terrorism always existed

* just made it worse and unleashed it further into the non-Islamic parts of the world.

Oh, to put this issue aside, all religions teach good. They also mix the good sayings with scary things to ensure people conform. Unfortunately, some people put 1 + 1 together and make 3, and those are the 'terrorists'.

Christianity is not too different from Islam in principle. A nice try to keep the populace from going nuts, but it doesn't quite work.

[madrchsod]

6. putin blew the shit out of a people and their country

he turned their lives into a daily match with death and he expects no revenge? but according to bush the world is safer now...tell that to all the people who lost loved ones in russia george....

[theboss]

7. I suppose. I don't really see what that proves though.

This is a pretty horrible event regardless of where it ranks in the all-time list of tragedies. (And I don't know who would keep such a list or what the point would be).

Personally, I blame Putin for continuing and absolutely insane war in Chechnya that started out as a purely nationalistic fight and because of Russian brutality, evolved into another fight between radical Islam and the West. I do think it shows Bush failure to understand the world that he has not worked to stop this madness. Mainly, because I think it has the potential to create another hotbed of Islamic terrorism that can then be turned against the US and Europe.

[veracity]

8. tragedy is tragedy, not numbers....but there were so many children...

And this came on top of the two airliners going down.... So it's a terrible tragedy, by any measure. Hundreds of little kids were burned to death. Are American lives the only ones that have value? This is a tragedy...and the whole damn world is facing more and more and more of this. That's even a greater tragedy.

[soupkitchen]

10. The real lesson to be learned here is that the biggest terrorist threat

to America is domestically inspired terrorism. In the sixties the inner cities burned, but I suspect the disenfranchised, if pushed far enough, will have no qualms pushing back with the more deadlier means they have learned from TV.
I've said before, "sharpen class distinctions and you sharpen the guillotine." Which simply means squeeze people hard enough and they will lash back.
Take an issue like health care. So some 60 year old guy goes to the Hospital with cancer and he gets the run around because he has no insurance. Maybe he comes back with a bomb strapped to him and blows the hospital to kingdom come. "Fuck me, Fuck you." Which pretty much seems to be the National Slogan anyway these days.
And I think the more that the Republican policies influence American domestic policy, the more people that get disenfranchised, the more likely these type of terroristic attacks are going to happen. It's almost inevitable. Those who live by the sword die by the sword.
The Democratic Party is pretty much about having as large an economic center as possible. And Yates warns us what happens when things unravel.
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned."

And I for one am drowning in Republican bullshit.

[JCMach1]

14. Can't compare the two it is a different circle of hell

:(

[veluthukaran]

16. I suspect Iraqis feel there's is worst.

imho

[RebelOne]

18. What do you mean by

"they are not as white"? That sounds like a bigoted statement.

[TryingToWarnYou]

19. Here, this might help.

One entry found for sarcasm.
Main Entry: sar·casm
Pronunciation: 'sär-"ka-z&m
Function: noun
Etymology: French or Late Latin; French sarcasme, from Late Latin sarcasmos, from Greek sarkasmos, from sarkazein to tear flesh, bite the lips in rage, sneer, from sark-, sarx flesh; probably akin to Avestan thwar&s- to cut
1 : a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain <tired of continual sarcasms>
2 a : a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual b : the use or language of sarcasm <this is no time to indulge in sarcasm>
synonym see WIT

[kayell]

20. Removed by poster

removed by poster

[kayell]

21. I suspect that most people who are directly affected by a tragedy

see that tragedy as worst. If it is your children or husband or wife who has died, it is hard to see things in some kind of intellectual global perspective. I suspect that the Chechans whose village was wiped out by the Russians see their tragedy as worst, and the Iraqis whose children were maimed and killed see their tragedy as worst. And there always seem to be plenty of people on all sides who see their own worst tragedy as an excellent reason to visit tragedy on somebody else. And there always are evil people willing to take advantage of the grief and anger and direct in just the direction they would like it to take.

[lil-petunia]

22. another big difference

Putin expressed dismay and sorrow at the inefficient way the pros onsite responded. And he promised to make changes to fix it.

Since when has our feckless leader ever come close to admitting a mistake?

[mainer]

23. Shooting children in the back?

In some ways, I understand why the Russians might feel that theirs was worse. Instead of attacking authority figures or adults, these terrorists -- women among them -- targeted the most vulnerable members of a single village. This was murder on a personal level, the killers able to see each of their victims face to face, forcing mothers to make a Sophie's choice and leave one or more their children behind. That women terrorists went along with this just astounds me.

[kerrywins]

24. they're not white?

aren't Russians white?