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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 01:11 PM
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OMG....Michael Savage sent love letters to Alan Ginsberg!!!
According to Mark Crispin Miller. The info is in recently released letters of Alan Ginsberg.

(OFF OF CSPAN2 right now...2:11PM ET)
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 01:12 PM
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1. I am loving this Mark Crispin Miller talk on cspan - wish it would last
longer. He's great.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 01:12 PM
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2. Thstop it, you thsilly! n/t
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 02:32 PM
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13. Ha, ha, say, that's funny! Because all gay men lisp!
Edited on Sat Sep-04-04 02:32 PM by belle
:eyes:
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 01:13 PM
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3. "It's strictly projection"
"I don't care about these headcases....... We don't have time for a cure to kick in..."

I was disappointed in him at first, but he's rollin' now.....

Kanary

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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 01:14 PM
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4. Savage Weiner used to be some kind of beatnik, that is his background.
I remember seeing some old photo of him in front of City Lights bookstore in San Fran (one of the great bookstores of the world, IMHO).

That accounts for his particular type of verbal style. The guy is not without some some wit and talent, he's just an ass. I assume people like this actually made a cold conscious decision to play the knuckle dragging role to make money when they figured out RW hate was hot.

I wonder if he ever talks about his old background, to explain his switch to become a wingnut?
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 01:18 PM
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6. you are right
I assume people like this actually made a cold conscious decision to play the knuckle dragging role to make money when they figured out RW hate was hot.

This is exactly what he is doing and exactly what Rush is doing and it makes them more dispicable than the worst of the real zealots. People like savage deserve to live under a bridge.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 01:26 PM
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8. not necessarily - when your world view is B/W and you figure out
black doesn't work you have only one alternative - white (or vice versa) which is why some extremists flip extremes. They'll flip again when they realize their new extreme doesn't make them happy either.
Or just remain miserable forever.
I wish they could see complexity in the world, but I am really starting to believe that the choice to see complexity in the world is not available to them. Their brains may actually be hardwired to only see B/W. We'll see.
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zmdem Donating Member (546 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 01:19 PM
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7. Savage is a curious guy
I listen to him on the drive home from work. When he talks about his background, it is either his youth in NYC, or the time he spent in the south sea islands.

I've also wondered about the oppurtunist angle. Of course, sometimes people with extreme views move to the other extreme. Consider David Horowitz, politically, or Geo. W. Bush, personally.
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Citizen Daryl Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 01:16 PM
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5. "Savage My Weiner, Alan!"
:)
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dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 01:29 PM
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9. Wow, he's got

McCain's number!!!!
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 01:44 PM
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10. The deep irony is Crispin couldn't post at DU --he'd be booed off
He just said it...... he replied that he believes the election will be stolen.

That kind of "doom and gloom" would get him roundly hissed and booed here, until he left.

Kanary
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 01:51 PM
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11. I think the only way shrub will get 4 more is a disaster or he steals the
election...either way..he would steal the election.

I did not know about his past..I will check it out...even if he crossed over to our side for ulterior motives..I like what he is saying now...but will hold my enthusiasm.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 01:55 PM
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12. Yup, sounds like you'd "boo" him, also.
Saying something you don't want to know causes you to doubt his very credentials.

How........interesting......

No wonder the saying "Dems eat their own"

Kanary
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 02:36 PM
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14. What exactly did he say?
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 02:53 PM
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15. What I posted.
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