CSPAN 2 -- BOOK TV -- Books on Bush --- Krugman & Others - 5PM ET

[Khephra]

On Saturday, September 4 at 5:00 pm and Sunday, September 5 at 2:00 am and Monday, September 6 at 6:00 am --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Books on President Bush
Paul Krugman, Sidney Blumenthal, Joseph Wilson, Craig Unger, and Mark Green

Description: A panel discussion with authors who are critical of President Bush's domestic and foreign policy. The participants are Mark Green ("What We Stand For"), Paul Krugman ("The Great Unraveling"), Craig Unger ("House of Bush, House of Saud"), Sidney Blumenthal ("The Clinton Wars"), and Joseph Wilson ("The Politics of Truth").

Author Bio: The event was hosted by the New Democracy Project. For more information, visit www.newdemocracyproject.org .

[NMDemDist2]

1. that's like in 10 minutes right? I can't wait n/t

[Khephra]

2. Nah, it's like in 6 minutes

now that is. ;-)

It's two hours long, so get your popcorn while you can!

[Kanary]

8. ACK! 2 hours! I didn't know that....... gak.....

Didn't set my recorder for long enough....

~~sobble~~

I don't know how to reset it mid-record.....

:cry:

Kanary

[Khephra]

10. It's repeated

Sunday, September 5 at 2:00 am and Monday, September 6 at 6:00 am

[Kanary]

11. ah, thanks!

I can get it in full at that time....

Thanks, khephra!!!

I really appreciate your headsup on all these...... I was involved in other things, and completely spaced out my usual weekend viewings. You're great!

:pals:

Kanary

[henslee]

14. Super thanks on the heads up. Green smokes.

[Khephra]

3. Showtime kick

it should be on any moment now.

[Khephra]

4. Ahhh...Conason is there too. He's not mentioned on the list.

[Khephra]

5. Is anyone else getting static on their CSPAN 2?

[milkyway]

6. Conason's not there. Here's my original post on the event.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=698960&mesg_id=698960&page=

[Khephra]

7. They just mentioned his name in the intro leading up to the event

I guess the intro was done before the event.

[Khephra]

9. The Progressive Book Club (just mentioned)

http://www.progressivebookclub.com/

[Khephra]

12. The first Progressive Book Club event is archived on their site

Toni Morrison, Joe Conason, Al Franken, Sidney Blumenthal, and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. discussed "Books, Politics, and the Culture War" at First Parish Church, Zero Church St., Cambridge, MA. To view this event, please click here.

rtsp://video.c-span.org/archive/arc_btv/arc_btv072604_panel.rm

Looks like I've got something to watch after this event!

:-)

[NMDemDist2]

62. that was excellent esp RFK Jr n/t

[Kanary]

13. "Are you calling Bush a liar?"

"Apparently it's better to be a liar than to call Bush a liar".

~~guffaw~~

"I don't think it's particularly strong or courageous to be a puppet....."

~~double guffaw~~

Kanary

[Khephra]

15. "It's not just a failed Presidency, it's a radical Presidency."

[Kanary]

18. sigh........ I agree with his sentiments..... I rather he didn't use that

term......

"Radical" is a GOOD WORD (tm), and I really don't like to see it used in that way. sigh....

Radical actually means "root"....... To describe something as radical means it comes from the root.... that certainly doesn't describe RW ideology. But, is accurate for traditional Dem policies.

sigh........

Can't win 'em all, and I won't fault him for it, I just wish he wouldn't........

Kanary

[Khephra]

19. Well, the reason, I think, he's using it is because the Right

uses it against the Left so often. It's one way of depowering the effectiveness of the Right by turning the tables on them and using their own words and methods. By the Right's definition (someone far to one side of the spectrum), it's a valid use of the word.

I understand where you're coming from, though.

:-)

[Kanary]

23. I suppose you're right....... I just hate to see one more good word

cratered because of this criminal gang.

It goes the way of "liberal", etc.

DANG 'EM ALL!!

:nuke:

Kanary, who is being silly being upset with one word, when there are so many other things to *really* be upset about, but still......... :)

[Robbien]

16. Bush has such a high regard for the truth

that he uses it sparingly.

It is worse to be called a liar than be one.

[MrScorpio]

17. Star Wars

Oh boy, don't get me started on Star Wars.

Shrubya's national/military defense team was orginally designed and built to expand Star Wars to unreal proportions.

But we got hit off-guard by the TERR-A-ISTS instead.

Know wonder everything is so fucked up.

[Khephra]

20. Krugman's up now

:toast: to the Krugman!

[Khephra]

21. Krugman -- the authors up here are like a reverse of the

blind men touching the elephant fable. Each one has grabbed onto a part that they understood. Krugman--economics (and he did the others)...and they all got it right and could tell that something was definitely wrong.

I really like that analogy.

[Khephra]

22. This isn't really about Bush. Bush is the guy the movement found

to push it over the top.

(paraphrase...all my quotes are in this thread, btw)

[Khephra]

25. If Bush said, "The Earth is flat"

The headline would read: Shape of the Earth--Views Differ.

[Kanary]

26. I would certainly hope so......

If you can remember everything, word for word, whilst typing it in, then...... I'll be very afraid of you.

:hi:

Kanary

[Khephra]

30. We have a few people like that

During the Iraq Resolution speeches in the Senate they would get almost every word.

I think a lot of them had TVIO to help. ;-)

:hi:

[Kanary]

29. "People like myself have been asleep for a long time"

That's so important to remember..... how are we going to really impress this upon the next generation? How do we make sure they really know that they cannot ever again take this system for granted?

That's assuming, of course, that we are ever able to reclaim it again......

sigh.....

Kanary

[milkyway]

24. Krugman's next book will be on the right movement that began with Barry

Goldwater. "This movement didn't begin with bush and won't end with bush. He is the man the movement found to put them over the top."

[Khephra]

27. "over the top"....thanks....I'll correct my paraphrase!

:hi:

[Khephra]

28. "We need a mega-Watergate."

[Khephra]

31. Unger up now

"9/11 did NOT come out of the blue."

[Tatiana]

32. Krugman was good.

Very profound. I also liked how he made the point that this is bigger than Bush. I also liked the assertion that we need a "mega-Watergate." Which network, which journalist will be courageous enough to expose these vermin for who they are?

[Khephra]

33. I can't really take notes anymore...company came over

But I'll kick it every so often if no one is posting.

We're only at the half-way mark. A whole hour left.

[milkyway]

34. Unger was great. He pulls back the curtain to show us the truth.

I would love to see someone like him do an investigation of 9/11 that either proves or disproves LIHOP/MIHOP.

[Kanary]

51. I'll second that, and I've wondered why it hasn't been done.

I suppose because everyone is being *very* careful to make assertions that are clearly proveable, and will sway people. I suppose nobody wants to be labeled "kook" from all directions.

sigh....

I'd *still* like to see someone do an investigation of 9/11. Does that count? :)

Kanary

[Khephra]

35. Joe Wilson up now

After he's done then they'll have the Q&A.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

37. Wilson is great

this has been a great show

[milkyway]

36. Joe Wilson: "I am absolutely certain that we will have redemption in all

this, thanks to Pat Fitzgerald and others."

[Robbien]

38. It is a shame that Wilson felt he had to justify his background

There is so much we could learn from this man but due to BushCo, a great man such as Joe Wilson has to waste his time justifying himself.

[Stephanie]

41. If Wilson has faith in Fitzgerald that is very good news

This is awesome - can't wait to see the whole thing. Just tuned in.

[Kanary]

52. I'm relieved to hear him say that. I just wonder *when* that "redemption"

will be....... before or after the election?

sigh.......

Kanary, who is NOT IMPATIENT........., NO, I"M NOT!!!! :)

[MrScorpio]

39. Joe Wilson is on fire

This is the first time I've ever heard him give a speech. He's damn good.

[Khephra]

40. Q&A time!

And I agree with the above--Wilson was on fire! If you didn't believe his story before, you should watch this on repeat then. You could tell that he has been personally freeped over by the Bushies. His anger has become his guiding light.

[MrScorpio]

42. Good questions so far

The (large) audience is on the ball

[0007]

44. Faith Based programs.

Sidney Blumenthal is rocking and coming out wotj some truths that are funny about Karl Rove.

What a wonderful two hours.

[kskiska]

43. This is absolutely wonderful

I'm going to tape it at 2 a.m. and pass it around.

[Robbien]

45. Yes, it is refreshing to have a panel of people speak what they feel

is the truth, using straight forward talk with none of the political speak.

[Khephra]

46. If you didn't read all the above posts, go up and read 9 and 12

For information on The Progressive Book Club and the link to the other archived author panel that happened before this one.

[Robbien]

47. I signed up about ten days ago, hope it was early enough

to be one of the ones who get the free early bird goodies.

The Progressive Book Club could be a winner if run right.

[Khephra]

48. I'm going to sign up tonight

Today was the first I've heard of it.

[Stephanie]

49. Important question: Is Krugman married?

He is much younger and handsomer than I expected.

[Khephra]

50. That IS an important question

;-)

I hope you get the answer you want!

[Robbien]

53. Sorry, he is taken

He lives in Mass. and is married to Robin Leslie Bergman. He is also about fifty one years of age.

[Stephanie]

54. Dang!

Well keep your eyes peeled for me. I want one just like him.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

55. He lives in Mass? I thought he taught at Princeton...

[AmerDem]

56. That was a very good program

A must see thru C-Span archives for those who missed it.

[Kanary]

57. Don't even have to use the archives..... it'll be repeated... twice...

Hurrah!

:hi:

Kanary

[AmerDem]

58. It first aired on Monday

C-Span only runs shows a couple times at most. The Archive are always great to schedule your time around.

[Kanary]

59. Sunday, September 5 at 2:00 am and Monday, September 6

Monday, September 6, 6am

as per initial post.

[AmerDem]

60. got it

Thanks

[Kanary]

61. yer welcome...... that picture is a HOOT!

~~gigglesnort~~

Thanks for that..... I needed to clean off my monitor anyway....

:hi:

Kanary

[Kanary]

63. pushing this back up to the top for the night crowd

September 5 at 2:00 am and Monday, September 6 at 6:00 am

definitely worth watching and/or recording....

Kanary

[Tellurian]

64. Ah, thanks..merh, for pointing me to this thread..

I'll be the Sunday 2 am viewer, having missed the 5pm spot on Sat.

Everybody-- your reviews are enthusiastically inspiring. I hope all the guests appearing on the show are on fire. Wilson has a (mega) dog in this fight and is key to opening the door to the larger aspects regarding the rampant corruption of the Bush Administration. I hope Fitz can take the heat, not buckling under all the pressure/extortion/undue influence/threats coming his way. <sigh>

I hope BC's recovery is swift. We can't afford to be without his insight for a moment, battling the demons from the darkside is his forte. May the saints protect him in his hours of vulnerability.. and I hope to God Hillary hires private security to sleep at his bedside 24/7 and trusts no one, not even his doctors.

[Stephanie]

65. I taped this and I will transcribe if somebody can coach me

on how to transfer audio from VHS to audio cassette.

[otohara]

66. Notice How C-Span Ran Conservative Bob Barr Panel 3 Times

on Saturday. There was Barr and part 2 featuring Cal Thomas series - which ran 3 times on Saturday during decent times vs this bullshit schedule for Krugman/Wilson etal. Conservaties Saturday - 3PM-4PM, 12PM,1PM, 9PM,10PM....

2AM & 6AM for the liberals - 6Am in my city is 4AM

[Misskittycat]

67. It was amazing (eom)