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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 08:49 AM
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First They Came for the Protesters
http://www.alternet.org/rights/19779/

First They Came for the Protesters

By Rachel Neumann, AlterNet. Posted September 3, 2004.

The demonstrations in New York offer lessons on future strategies to get protesters' messages across to the public
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Tourists, old ladies and gentlemen, a building superintendent who was taking out the garbage, teenagers on their first date to a play, ministers, students, bicycle messengers and a good number of bruised and dirty yet singing and chanting protesters. It's the kind of diversity that New York City is famous for, and during this past week, the best place to find it was in the makeshift jail at Pier 57. The biggest underreported story of the Republican National Convention was not Laura Bush's Botox or conservative women making fools of themselves for California's manly governor. It was this: how could 1,800 people be arrested when they had done nothing wrong with the exception of crowding the sidewalks or block traffic? These events happen a thousand times every second in New York City. If these are crimes, all of New York should be arrested every single day.

In a country that engages in preemptive war against a small nation that had neither the intention nor the ability to attack us, preemptive suppression of dissent is the next logical step. But the word "preemptive" is misleading here, because it implies that a crime was about to be committed. It implies that Barbara Gates, 78, whose plans were as nefarious as walking at a slow pace to somewhere near the Convention and lying down, is a criminal and a threat to society. It implies that Julia Gross, 24, arrested while walking away from a "kiss-in," is a potential terrorist. These arrests, the lack of media attention concerning them, and the simultaneous pageantry within the convention imply that there is a legitimacy, in these "unsafe" times, for arresting anyone who has the audacity to even think about speaking up for dissent, even before they do so. After all, the Boy's Choir of Harlem is about to sing and the show must go on.

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At the 2000 Republican National Convention in Philadelphia, 420 people were arrested – more than 75 of whom were locked up for sleeping in a large space used for making puppets. It wasn't until April 2004, almost four years later, that the final arrestees stood trial and were acquitted on all charges. The arrests and protesters' subsequent treatment in jail brought heavy criticism from the ACLU, Human Rights Watch, the National Lawyers Guild, Amnesty International and other civil rights organizations, but so far there hasn't been either acknowledgement or compensation to people who experienced the excessive arrests.

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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 08:53 AM
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1. I think, First they came for the twice elected President....
The neo-nazi republicans gained their strengh when they were able, for 8 years, cook up an almost successful Coupe against President Clinton.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 11:35 AM
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2. originally, it would be safe to say
'first they came for the Native Americans'.

As for very recent history, I would say it was black, male youth.
Just look at our prisons.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 12:06 PM
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3. not sure why, but this subject
Edited on Mon Sep-06-04 12:13 PM by G_j

often seems to meet with a wall of indifference here.
:shrug:

This very type of thing is what inspired the original "first they came for.." quote, which is now so well known.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 12:26 PM
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5. Particularly chilling
was the announcement that the police were using a military weapon against protesters that could cause permanent hearing loss, and it hardly caused a ripple. :shrug:
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 12:43 PM
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7. there is a huge industry
growing around crowd control weapons and the lines between military and law enforcement become increasingly blurred. Preemptive arrests and incarceration of dissenters is a very serious matter.
This article points out how the media and public have given their consent through their silence and apathy.
I'm not sure how anyone could read this article without big bloody red flags going up.

I feel somewhat the odd one out, in that I've been posting about this here for a few years now. I won't give up though. IMO, silence on this is going come back to bite us all.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 12:20 PM
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4. But..but we have freedom of speech, the press, assembly!
Just don't say anything that isn't "patriotic".

Our press/media is free to say anthing..as long as their corporate masters approve.

We can assemble and seek redress of our grievances..in "free speech zones" - otherwise known as cages or jails.


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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 12:32 PM
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6. The roots of this in NY are more in Giuliani than Bush.
Giuliani introduced to New York City zero-tolerance policing:

arresting people for jaywalking and other crimes which were met with a ticket before Giuliani.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 04:50 PM
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8. ~kICk~
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 05:25 PM
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9. good for Newsday
http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local/bronx/nyc-rncprotesters0906,0,1408812.story?coll=nyc-manheadlines-bronx

Protesters arrested early and often

September 5, 2004, 8:44 PM EDT


Will Hewitt from Olympia, Wash., came to New York to protest during the GOP convention, and ended up arrested for climbing a tree.

During a peaceful but unpermitted rally of a few hundred protesters in Foley Square, Hewitt climbed the tree to get a better view. A police officer shouted at him to get down. Hewitt complied, and when he reached the bottom, was surrounded by a dozen officers in riot gear.

"I don't even know whether I'm under arrest," a bewildered Hewitt said as they cuffed him and led him away. "They told me to get down from the tree so I got down from the tree."

A police officer replied in deadpan: "You're under arrest." One police source later said Hewitt had violated a park regulation.

Hewitt's arrest was one of more than 1,800 during convention week, arrests that revealed a police strategy combining rapid and overwhelming force with a tax attorney's application of obscure city laws.

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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 08:38 AM
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10. ~kICk~

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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 08:51 AM
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11. Dupe
Edited on Tue Sep-07-04 08:52 AM by Q
dupe
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 08:51 AM
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12. One thousand protestors were arrested on one day of the convention...
...and hundreds more were added to that each day. Their only 'crime' was being anti-Bush* or anti-war. They committed no crimes...but were swept off the streets and placed in holding pens without charges or due process.

- Welcome to New America...where dissent is illegal and Bush* is king.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 09:11 AM
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13. First they came for the bumper stickers but I said nothing
because I had no bumper stickers.
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tXr Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 09:12 AM
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14. Your local police force...
they're out for you!

<snip>
"It's part of doing business," a police source said. "Were there questionable arrests? Yes. Were there arrests that shouldn't be made? Sure. But when you're dealing with these people, there's going to be. We think we made out all right."
<snip>

The mind set of these people is simply unbelievable - but all too frighteningly true.

:wow: :grr: :nuke: :scared: :thumbsdown: :mad: :puke: :wtf: :silly: :freak: :hurts:
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 10:44 AM
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15. Sounds like we need protesters for the protesters!

The only thing that gets some attention in America,for our side, is something dramatic.

Now that the convention is over,the protesters children,babies included and families and grandmothers in wheelchairs need to stage a protest in front of the Dept. of Justice in New York.

It has to be something that touches the hearts of those police and justice officials that see it.

An ACLU official standing in front of a microphone will not do it.
Writing to newspapers won't help much. It must be visual to send the message.

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