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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 11:18 PM
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Neoconservatism and Espionage AIPAC Spy Scandal: Crimes of the 'Clean Brea
According to Green, his visitors "were extraordinarily well-informed" and very focused:

"It was apparent they've been at this for awhile, I asked them if there was a current reason for them asking questions about things that go back over 30 years, and they sort of looked at each other and said, 'Yes, it's a present issue,' but wouldn't say specifically what. Though they did ask very specific questions about one individual in particular."

Ledeen's Israeli connection, as the chief go-between with Israel in the Iran-Contra affair, is well-known, but his storied history didn't prevent employment as a "consultant" to the Office of Special Plans.

Vest and Rozen report that the agents never brought up Franklin's name: they wanted to know about Wolfowitz, Perle, Feith, Ledeen, and Bryen. Another node of interest: the Pentagon's "Office of Special Plans," which is widely credited with funneling enough phony "intelligence" into the White House to expose its occupant to the charge of being a world-class liar. "The only name that didn't come up was Larry Franklin," avers Green.
more
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=3521
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baby_bear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 11:22 PM
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1. Can someone give me a nutshell here?
I have been trying to follow this story, mostly in the WA Post, but there are subtleties regarding Israel and Washington that I personally am just not getting. I need a primer here. Is this all about historical and consistent spying, or is this something that is corroding the Defense Dept from within?

Insights, primers, anything would be helpful to me here....

thanks
s_m
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 11:26 PM
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2. sure here sierra_moon
Edited on Tue Sep-07-04 11:45 PM by seemslikeadream
sorry I can't do nutshell right now
Secrets: Classified Info: Springing a Leak
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x803017
Behind the AIPAC Probe, Neocons Seen Battling Rivals
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x807922
War of words over espionage probe
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x806736
Dual Loyalties The Bush Neocons and Israel
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x805489
Israeli spy nest in the U.S. - Ashcroft says: ’Don’t arrest them!’
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=802249
Ashcroft Nixes Arrests in Israeli Spy Probe
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=796806
Secrets: Classified Info: Springing a Leak
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x803017
FBI probes Jewish sway on Bush government
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=802725
Spy Case Renews Debate Over Pro-Israel Lobby's Ties to Pentagon Cons
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=804314
Israel's Mole Inside the Pentagon
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=783161
Pro-Israel Lobby Has Strong VoiceAIPAC Is Embroiled in Investigation
of Pe
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=803035
Defense, Cheney Iran Specialists Questioned in (Israeli Spy) Probe
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=801031
Leak Inquiry Includes Iran Experts in Administration (WaPo)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=801678
White House Learned of Spy Probe in 2001
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=800454
LAT: Israel Has Long Spied on US,Say Officials(but CIA, Mossad "intimate")
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=798631
Wider FBI Probe Of Pentagon Leaks Includes Chalabi - WaPo
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=798333
Serving Two Flags The Bush Neo-Cons and Israel
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=799167
Israeli political advisor may have received U.S. secrets
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=795817
Pentagon leaks connected to battle over Iran policy (this is big!)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=797846
Pentagon Office in Spying Case Was Focus of Iran Debate
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=796889
Alleged Pentagon Leak to Iraqi Is Under Investigation
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=798060
Spy probe scans neo-cons' Israel ties (long article from Asia Times)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=794029
AIPAC hires lawyers
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=794332
IAEA: No proof of secret Iran plan
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=793930
WP: Spy Probe Expands/Linked to NSC Probe
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=795385
Pentagon Office in Spying Case Was Focus of Iran Debate
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=795432
U.S. Spy Probe Focuses on Two Lobbyists -Guardian
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=794973
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 11:30 PM
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3. That's the whole damn tree, isn't it?
Seemslikeadream, you're remarkable.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 11:34 PM
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4. I had to do something to keep busy
waiting very impatiently for something BIG!

:hi:
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baby_bear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 11:39 PM
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5. Whoa!!! Looks like I'll be up all night with this homework!
Thanks, seemslikeadream....I think!!!

s_m
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umtalal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 12:16 AM
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6. sierra_moon
can you share with us your conclusion.

Beautiful nick by the way!
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 02:31 PM
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7. This absolutely
deserves a :kick:
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 02:56 PM
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8. I'll second that and raise you one
book mark.

:kick:
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