Who sold Saddam his weapons?

[Massacure]

I showed some guys the pic of Rumsfeld with Saddam, however one of them said Europe sold Saddam his weapons. How can I prove him wrong? I'm not having good luck on google. I think I'm typing my search wrong. :(

[BlueEyedSon]

1. Which weapons.... the ones he didn't have?

LMFAO!

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

2. We sold them during the Iraq/Iran war

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein

[Massacure]

8. That doesn't mention Rumsfeld by name.

Thanks anyways. It is a good reference, i'll be sure to bookmark it. I'm sure it'll come in handy sooner or later.

[stavka]

16. Your site doesn't say that....

It says both the US and Soviets supported Saddam.

I would guess we gave some aid, but weapon systems were entirely non-American - Chinese/Soviet/Eastern Bloc (Remember the Eastern Bloc?) Some French and some other European.

We also flagged their tankers

[rinsd]

3. Which weapons?

Conventional arms were primary supplied by the then USSR and Franc as well as China and NK.

The US assisted in bio/chem development and so called dual purpose equipment. Germany also likely had a hand in bio/chem development.

[Massacure]

7. WMD. I'm looking for a artcile that shows the link between Rummie-Saddam

[maveric]

4. This pic may answer your question.

[Massacure]

6. Thats the one I gave him when he said Europe sold him the weapons.

[xchrom]

5. that's the joke, isn't it?

how did we know saddam had weapons of mass destruction?
we kept the receipts.

[AlCzervik]

9. This IS a joke but it's funny

or maybe it isnt?

http://www.whitehouse.org/news/2003/061303.asp

[RebelYell]

19. Ooops

You beat me to it. Sowwy.

[RebelYell]

18. Receipt? Did someone say receipt?

[enki23]

10. we gave him plenty of aid, but not military aid

not directly. we simply ensured that channels were opened to him, so others could sell him weapony. that includes weaponry that was made in the USA. in other words, we sold it to him, only we did it a little bit indirectly. and we did, of course, give him the resources to purchase it.

at least, that's how i understand it. i could be wrong.

[Aidoneus]

11. Russians, Germans, French, British, Americans..

The guy isn't really wrong, but I suspect he'll lie about the context. "Old Europe" were US satellites then and did what they were told. Ah, the good old days..

[frylock]

12. an excellent read on the subject is unholy babylon..

If you are interested in learning more, you should read Unholy Babylon: The Secret History of Saddam's War, written in 1991.

enki23 is correct in stating that we didn't provide direct military aid, but our government turned a blind eye to US firms who provided Saddam with equipment to produce weaponry. US firms such as Bell Helicopters, Global Research International, Hewlitt Packard, Hughes, McDonnell Douglas, and a host of others.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0312065310/qid=1094683192/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-7605274-6797603?v=glance&s=books

[Trajan]

13. From the Sunday Herald ...

http://www.sundayherald.com/27572

How did Iraq get its weapons? We sold them


By Neil Mackay and Felicity Arbuthnot


THE US and Britain sold Saddam Hussein the technology and materials Iraq needed to develop nuclear, chemical and biological wea pons of mass destruction.
Reports by the US Senate's committee on banking, housing and urban affairs Ð which oversees American exports policy Ð reveal that the US, under the successiveÊadministrationsÊof Ronald Reagan and George Bush Snr,ÊsoldÊmaterialsÊincluding anthrax, VX nerve gas, West Nile fever germs and botulism to Iraq right up until March 1992, as well as germs similar to tuberculosis and pneumonia. Other bacteria sold included brucella melitensis,ÊwhichÊ damagesÊmajorÊorgans,Êand clostridium perfringens, which causes gas gangrene.

ClassifiedÊUS Defence Dep-artment documents also seen by the Sunday Herald show that BritainÊsoldÊIraqÊtheÊdrug pralidoxine,ÊanÊantidoteÊto nerve gas, in March 1992, after theÊendÊofÊtheÊGulfÊwar. PralidoxineÊcanÊbeÊreverse engineered to create nerve gas.

TheÊSenateÊcommittee'sÊrep orts on ÒUS Chemical and BiologicalÊWarfare-Related Dual-UseÊExportsÊtoÊIraqÓ, undertaken in 1992 in the wake of the Gulf war, give the date andÊdestinationÊofÊallÊUS exports. The reports show, for example, that on May 2, 1986, two batches ofÊbacillusÊanthracisÊÐÊtheÊmicro-organismÊthatÊcauses anthrax Ð were shipped to the IraqiÊMinistryÊofÊHigher Education,ÊalongÊwithÊtwo batchesÊofÊtheÊbacterium clostridiumÊbotulinum,Êthe agentÊthatÊcausesÊdeadly botulism poisoning.

One batch each of salmonella and E coli were shipped to the Iraqi State Company for Drug Industries on August 31, 1987. Other shipments went from the US to the Iraq Atomic Energy Commission on July 11, 1988; the Department of Biology at theÊUniversityÊofÊBasrahÊin November 1989; the Department ofÊMicrobiologyÊatÊBaghdad UniversityÊinÊJuneÊ1985;Êthe Ministry of Health in April 1985 andÊOfficers'ÊCity,ÊaÊmilitary complex in Baghdad, in March and April 1986.

-snip-

Sorry bout the weird symbols .....

[EDT]

14. The French were helping with Nukes till Israel bombed the facility

As much as I poo poo Israel, they did the world a favor bombing the Nuclear plant the French helped Iraq with, as well as assassinating Iraqi Scientists in France who were key in building the plant prior to the bombing. And lets not forget their sabotage of the French facility milling several key components with explosives.

The Iranians tried bombing it as well, but their air attacks were unsuccessful.

I always suspect the US was involved in the 1981 Israeli attack, though they publicly condemned it.

[nyc_lib]

15. Read "Treachery" by BILL GERTZ

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1400053153/qid=1094688800/sr=8-9/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i9_xgl14/002-3422219-3232009?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

Just released, already has a high ranking -- but I'm not sure how trustworthy Bill Gertz is on this matter.

See the Washington Times for excerpts. Today's Part I had some interesting info related to your question.

"A Defense Department-sponsored report produced in February identified France as one of the top three suppliers of Iraq's conventional arms, after Russia and China. The report revealed that France supplied 12 types of armaments and a total of 115,005 pieces."

[istruthfull]

17. Regan

I thought Regan sold him his chemical weapons. *Liked the guy(Regan) but we are feeling the results of his initiating the corporate takeover of America*

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

20. Google the "Reigle Report"

In the early 1990's, the U.S. Senate investigated claims of returning veterans regarding Gulf War Syndrome. The 500+ page report resulting from these investigations came to be known as the "Reigle Report". Much of this information is still classified, concerning the names of individual U.S. companies, but read the introduciton to this long report:

"...U.S. Senate Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs

Staff Report on U.S. Chemical and Biological Warfare-Related Dual-Use Exports to Iraq and The Possible Impact on the Health Consequences of the War

INTRODUCTION

In October 1992, the Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs, which has Senate oversight responsibility for the Export Administration Act (EAA), held an inquiry into the U.S. export policy to Iraq prior to the Persian Gulf War. During that hearing it was learned that U.N. inspectors identified many U.S.- manufactured items exported pursuant to licenses issued by the U.S. Department of Commerce that were used to further Iraq's chemical and nuclear weapons development and missile delivery system development programs. ..."

[clu]

21. a bit to comb through

But this is the best site I've seen. You have to read between the lines a bit, but in the end you can see that US firms were supplying chemical weapons precursors to Saddam after Iran had complained that these weapons were being used against them.

European countries gave him armaments, but we didn't want to see Iraq lose the war.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/index.htm

[oblivious]

22. Here's an excellent, well-documented timeline.

http://www.unobserver.com/index.php?pagina=layout5.php&id=815&blz=1