I knew guys who got out early and still got an Honorable Discharge

[trumad]

When I was in the 82nd Airborne back in the 70's, I had several friends that were busted for drug or booze related incidents. Each time they had to go to counseling and had to submit to urine tests.....

If they failed the tests or did not attend their counseling they were kicked out of the Army without a proper discharge. After several months after they were out of the Army, they would receive an Honorable Discharge and that would be it.

I actually knew guys who did this on purpose just to get out of the Army. They said what the hell, they'd get an Honorable anyway.

So..... Getting an Honorable Discharge really ain't that hard to do even if you did not fulfill your contract obligations.

[EST]

1. Wish I'd known this back in '66

The big problem is the coverup- all the lies and distortion coming from the douche mafia. For me, the brass ring will be exposing the the horror of the evil empire for the last hundred years, imprisoning the baddies and giving the country to the people.

[RobertSeattle]

2. I have similar story from the 80's

As a platoon leader, one of my E-5's came down with a positive for Coke in a urine test. He was nearing his re-enlistment date, so my commander offered him an Honorable Discharge if he'd just not re-enlist (and avoid UCMJ) or otherwise risk UCMJ. He chose the former, probably got on with his civilian life without a nasty mark against him.

[leesa]

3. But did they refuse an order to take those tests?

[oneighty]

4. My brother

received a General Discharge (under honorable conditions) because of pot, also an early out. Years later after appeal it was up-graded to Honorable discharge.

One can also get a general discharge "For the good of the service" My BIL has that.

180

[Blue Wally]

5. In 1973....

The draft was coming to an end. The active forces were scaling back in size (Army went from 1.5M down to 788K). Lots of active trrops were being put out on the street like Christmas help and were looking for National Guard and Reserve postions to be able to keep from wasting the time they had spent on active duty. The NG and reserves were also trimming down in size. As a result, commanders at all levels were being very liberal in allowing "reluctant warriors" to leave before their obligations were completed (not discharged, just transferred to the inactive reserve) to make way for the able and willing. Not surprized that a less than stellar pilot would have been given the green light to go to grad school and that the Massachusetts units had no space for him.

[KansDem]

6. Bush's "honorable" discharge has little to do with his service...

...or lack of it.

It has everything to do with what one can get away with if one's grandfather was a US senator, and father was a US Congressman, RNC chairman and US Ambassador to the UN...

http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/gb41.html

[truthspeaker]

7. Buddy of mine kept failing his PT in the '90s

So they let him go with an HD.