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zwielicht Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 10:38 AM
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Peking: 36.000+ protesters arrested
Edited on Thu Sep-09-04 11:31 AM by zwielicht
Crackdown on protests

10sep04

MORE than 30,000 petitioners have been detained before a major meeting of China's communist party, witnesses say.

About 36,000 people had been rounded up during the past week in an apparent move to ensure public order before the fourth plenary session of the Central Committee, New York-based Human Rights in China said.

It said police had been seen storming into petitioner settlements, confiscating and destroying personal belongings.

"Many of them were brutally beaten or otherwise abused. Some of the abuses reported to HRIC include sustained beating and kicking of detainees, and prodding in the face with high-voltage electric batons," the rights group said.

more: http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,10718798%255E663,00.html

On Edit: Deleted my translation of http://derstandard.at/?id=1787827, thank you I_like_chicken for the Herald Sun link!
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da_chimperor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 10:43 AM
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1. Here's a weaker translation from babelfish - LOL
Mass arrests in China alleged 36,000 persons briefly before annual convention of the kp arrests Chinese prisoners up in line and member  

Peking - before the annual convention of the central committee of the kp in China the police in Peking arrested than 36,000 humans after information of a human right organization more. Background is obviously the desire to guarantee the public order explained the organization human to Rights in China with seat in New York.

With the arresting act it around humans out of the entire country, who traveled to Peking, in order its complaints over corruption, abusing by the police and other topics to state itself there. Many of them would have met before the highest people's court. The police used electrical batons, in order to together-drive the quantity, reported human Rights in China. The annual convention of the kp is set from 16 to 19 September.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 10:46 AM
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2. And I bet there are discussions in the White House right now about
trying to figure out how they can do the same thing.
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zwielicht Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 10:50 AM
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4. lol
Edited on Thu Sep-09-04 11:33 AM by zwielicht
It would be nice if you could tell me how to correct my "translation" to make it readable without turning your stomach around :P

Or even better, find an English page reporting this and post it in LBN :thumbsup:
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I_like_chicken Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 10:50 AM
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3. heres an English version
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zwielicht Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 03:26 PM
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5. 36.000
sorry if there's already another thread on this somewhere
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 03:27 PM
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6. So, we still haven't fallen to Commie China tyranny yet
Hooray.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 04:14 PM
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7. maybe only because we don't have big enough holding pens yet...
How many brownshirts did it take to round up
36,000 and how much orange netting?

Someday the protesters will outnumber the shirts....
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 04:17 PM
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8. How many were arrested at the RNC?
nt
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 04:28 PM
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9. 1,800 but hey, its a damn good start!
http://www.alternet.org/rights/19779 /

First They Came for the Protesters

By Rachel Neumann, AlterNet. Posted September 3, 2004.

The demonstrations in New York offer lessons on future strategies to get protesters' messages across to the public
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Tourists, old ladies and gentlemen, a building superintendent who was taking out the garbage, teenagers on their first date to a play, ministers, students, bicycle messengers and a good number of bruised and dirty yet singing and chanting protesters. It's the kind of diversity that New York City is famous for, and during this past week, the best place to find it was in the makeshift jail at Pier 57. The biggest underreported story of the Republican National Convention was not Laura Bush's Botox or conservative women making fools of themselves for California's manly governor. It was this: how could 1,800 people be arrested when they had done nothing wrong with the exception of crowding the sidewalks or block traffic? These events happen a thousand times every second in New York City. If these are crimes, all of New York should be arrested every single day.

In a country that engages in preemptive war against a small nation that had neither the intention nor the ability to attack us, preemptive suppression of dissent is the next logical step. But the word "preemptive" is misleading here, because it implies that a crime was about to be committed. It implies that Barbara Gates, 78, whose plans were as nefarious as walking at a slow pace to somewhere near the Convention and lying down, is a criminal and a threat to society. It implies that Julia Gross, 24, arrested while walking away from a "kiss-in," is a potential terrorist. These arrests, the lack of media attention concerning them, and the simultaneous pageantry within the convention imply that there is a legitimacy, in these "unsafe" times, for arresting anyone who has the audacity to even think about speaking up for dissent, even before they do so. After all, the Boy's Choir of Harlem is about to sing and the show must go on.

<snip>
At the 2000 Republican National Convention in Philadelphia, 420 people were arrested – more than 75 of whom were locked up for sleeping in a large space used for making puppets. It wasn't until April 2004, almost four years later, that the final arrestees stood trial and were acquitted on all charges. The arrests and protesters' subsequent treatment in jail brought heavy criticism from the ACLU, Human Rights Watch, the National Lawyers Guild, Amnesty International and other civil rights organizations, but so far there hasn't been either acknowledgement or compensation to people who experienced the excessive arrests.

..more..


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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 11:14 PM
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10. Beijing police abuse and detain 30,000 petitioners
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