PHOTOS of WH Cabinet room - with CRUCIFIXES......OMG !!!

[diamond14]

while OUR soldiers are KILLED by bush* policies...laura dallies around the White House and re-decorates the cabinet room (with OUR money) to now include crucifixes (Christian crosses) on BOTH sides of the elegantly altar-like set-up....



A photographer takes pictures of the newly redecorated Cabinet Room in the White House, Wednesday, Sept. 8, 2004. The Cabinet Room in the West Wing of the White House was refurbished this summer for the first time in 22 years. The refurbishment, completed under the oversight of first lady Laura Bush, includes a new rug, draperies, paint color and lighting. (AP Photo/Susan Walsh)



with STARS on the carpet :puke: :puke:

[Jack_Dawson]

1. You don't believe in Jesus?

Sinner.

[buff2]

4. That is a cruel thing to say.

:thumbsdown:

[Jack_Dawson]

18. It was said in jest

Jeeeeeeez touchy place today.

Signed,

Confirmed Catholic and biannual churchgoer.

[arwalden]

57. I Got It...

no worries!

[friesianrider]

29. No, not in my government...

nom

[Oddman]

47. What is that reflected in the table?

The Virgin Mary??????????

Oh My Bush!

[daddybear]

2. Hate her hubby...

but good for her on the crosses... exellent reminder of what they SHOULD be doing and are NOT...

[Dhalgren]

20. What? You mean crucifying the innocent?

I think they are doing a splendid job in Iraq, if that is the concern...

[bobbyboucher]

25. Do you want to understand?

Think from the point of view that he drinks kool-aid by the bathtub full. Then it all becomes clear.

[daddybear]

41. Indeed....

... that plus giving of THEMSELVES (if they want to -- and NOT our soldiers - in a Bush-provoked war!) Let THEM (Bush and Cronies) take up a bayonet and go over there...)

[madmax]

3. Are you sure?

They could be wall scones. No? Sheesh, who knows with this gang.

[catzies]

38. Not a "scone," but a "sconce." Scones less controversial by far.

n/t

[madmax]

60. Oy oy my spelling is atrocious.

:hi:

[smirkymonkey]

45. Or, Hot-Cross Buns! Mmmmm.....

:)

[madmax]

61. ok ok

:spank: ;)

[NJCher]

62. OMG, that's so funny!!

Best laugh of the day!!

Hot cross buns! Oh man.


Cher

[Scooter24]

5. Really...

did the stars make that big of a difference? LOL...I hope he didn't think it would make the room appear more presidential

[Peachhead22]

6. Aren't Wolfy and Rumsfeld in there a lot?

Well, there goes that myth. I thought vampires were afraid of crosses.

[hermetic]

7. Pardon me but

crucifixes are for Catholics and crosses are for the Christian bunch that insist that it's more important that Jesus rose from the dead than that he died. I am not interested in getting into that argument but I don't think Laura would put up crucifixes.

[Bill McBlueState]

14. good call

Catholics use crucifixes: Jesus is still on the cross.

Protestants have generally used empty crosses.

I'm not gonna rehash the theology behind it, but it would be odd for the nominally Protestant Bushies to use crucifixes.

[Malva Zebrina]

8. It's as dull looking as Laura

She has little, if any, imagination. Do you think she took the old drapes and made dresses or suits out them? Sure--Texas is the lone star state--just as in her choices in clothing, as well as her two daughters, it is the wearing of badges or individual attention to things such as buttons--lots of buttons, big buttons, barbi doll tight gowns embellished with belly bows and lots of rick rack rather than something that is complimentary to the woman.

[The_Casual_Observer]

9. Be careful about this

Those might be sconces that aren't turned on.

It does have a sanctuary feel to it though.

[jackstraw45]

10. *shaking my head*

I CANNOT believe they put crosses in the cabinet room.

It looks like, from this distance, that they have Jesus on them.

But, I guess if you WORSHIP war and death like this administration, the WAR CABINET room is their church.

We have to get these sick, crusading f*cks out of office.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

11. I see no crucifixes

or is it crucifi?

[jackstraw45]

12. Look at the end of the room on the mantal....

I zoomed in and they look like it to me...I HOPE we're wrong.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

17. They look like the wall lights on the side

thats what I see

[RivetJoint]

21. Right and since Bush is a Protestant

I doubt he'd have a crucifix hanging in the meeting room.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

22. Exactamundo - that was my first thought

[KansDem]

13. This reminds me of a trip to the Truman Museum a number of years ago...

The museum (Independence, Missouri) had a display entitled "Dinnerware of the Presidents" or something similar... On display were the dishes, silverware, crystal, etc, that (selected) Presidents had used during their administrations.

I remember being impressed with what the Kennedys had: simple, austere yet elegant; pieces that projected a sense of class;

The Reagans however contrasted this with seemed like every piece emblazoned with "United States of America"--plates, glasses, everything with "United States of America" printed, etched, or engraved. Very gaudy. I wondered at the time the Reagans must have had a lot of crooked types to dinner...

[jmowreader]

16. This is what the Dubya Bush administration uses, right?

[Bunny]

27. ***snarf***

Too funny! Yep, that's what they use all right! Little Georgie needs a divided plate cause he just can't stand when his peas touch his mashed potatoes!

[jmowreader]

58. And he gets upset...

when he finishes all his din-din and can't see the bunny smiling at him from the bottom of the bowl.

[dmr]

30. I also heard

that they counted the china each time they held a dinner. They said people had a habit of taking a piece of their china as a souviner.

I forget who told the story, but it was told during Reagan's extended week long funeral.

[Guy_Montag]

15. I think we got communists in the white house

That carpet looks awfully like the Chinese flag.

[JHB]

19. Nah...

Stars are par for the course in WH decor, though you're right, the RED carpet is suspicious.

[AntiCoup2K4]

35. Are you suggesting the Bush family is in bed with the communist Chinese??

President George Bush, Siva Yam, President of Us-China Chamber of Commerce and Prescott Bush Jr., Chairman

What an absolutely ridiculous insinuation....

[Hubert Flottz]

23. I'll bet those light up and burn on special days!

Prolly a present from Trent!

[Xithras]

24. They are NOT crosses

I got curious and checked it out.

The Whitehouse website has online video and panoramic tours of a bunch of the Whitehouse rooms, including the Cabinet room which can be seen here: http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/life/cabinetroom.html#. If you click on the video tour and skip to about the halfway mark, you will see this stuff clarly.

The "altar" you are seeing is actually the mantle to the fireplace. The "crosses" aren't hanging on the walls...they are actually a pair of white urns with dark trim sitting on the mantle. In the grainy distance of the photo, the white portion is vanishing and only the tarket detail work is showing, giving it a crosslike appearance in the photos. Up close, they look nothing like crosses.

[jackstraw45]

28. Thanks.....whew.

Glad that was a false alarm.

[diamond14]

31. b*sh-sh*t....your photos are OLD, not the NEWLY remodeled cabinet room

OLD photos of WH cabinet room, trying to convince REAL DUers that THIS is the newly laura-remodeled Cabinet Room...hah ! it's just SOOOO blatant....



White House curator Bill Allman, right, shows reporters the newly redecorated Cabinet Room, Wednesday, Sept. 8, 2004. The Cabinet Room in the West Wing of the White House was refurbished this summer for the first time in 22 years. The refurbishment, completed under the oversight of first lady Laura Bush, includes a new rug, draperies, paint color and lighting. (AP Photo/Susan Walsh)

[RivetJoint]

32. There STILL are no crucifixes on the wall... so there!

:-)

[Catshrink]

26. Well, he is the AntiChrist, right?

[dmr]

33. They look like wall scounces to me

and I don't think this administration would ever use a crucifix.

[Spider Jerusalem]

34. Wow. Overreact much?

Oh, and it's "crucifices", not "crucifixes".

[RivetJoint]

36. Thanks for the spelling help

I made that same error!

[BeHereNow]

37. Carpet Stars: Let's play RAPTURE!

Nice touch- after the prayer circle,
they all stand on the table, look down at
the carpet and pretend they are
being raptured- the stars of course represent
being swept through the sky with Jeebus,
and the red background is the earth where
the rest of us are being consumed by the fires of hell...
Great touch Laura!
BHN

[theboss]

39. I don't see any crucifixes

And I'm not sure why a Methodist would hang up crucifixes anyway.

[RivetJoint]

40. Some see only what they want to see..

I'm with you on this BTW.

[daddybear]

42. In he top photo...

look on ether side of the (whatever) at the far end of the table (middle of photo)... a cross on each side... and Methodists use crosses as most Christian denominations do...

[RivetJoint]

44. A cross is not a crucifix...

HUGE difference.

[daddybear]

49. Not at all...

we have crosses with Christ (personification) on them called crucifixes, but we just CALL them all "crosses"... Catholics may make a distinction, but most Christians don't... a cross is a cross is a cross...

[RivetJoint]

50. Look up the definition of crucifix

and then tell me again that a crucifix and a cross are the same thing--they CLEARLY are not.

[daddybear]

52. Yes...

they are.

[RivetJoint]

53. No, they are not

A cross doesn't have Christ on it. A crucific does. It's simple for most.

[Individualist]

51. "Born agains"

in TN most certainly make a distinction. They would never display a crucifix rather than a cross, and the majority of them are anti-catholic.

[daddybear]

54. The distinction being...

that we "normally" do not have Christ ON the cross (crucifix) because He is no longer there.. glory! BUT...the distinction is sorta petty... the cross (with or without a figure of the Christ) is the cross to Christendom. Now, that is all I will say. on that subject (carry on if ya like).

Putting the crosses (or crucifixes) in that room seems fine to me...

[RivetJoint]

55. Not to Catholics

it is a crucifix when Christ is depicted on it. A cross when he is not. PERIOD.

[Individualist]

56. nor to born agains

In their twisted minds, any indication of Catholicism is "evil".

[Oddman]

43. God asked Pickles to redecorate - - -

[Surf Cowboy]

46. The world's most expensive trailer...

For the world's most powerful trash.

(I'm from Appalachia--I can joke about TT, dammit).

[Obamarama]

48. Those are not crosses...they look like a pair of urns to me.

Looks like there might be a fireplace at the end of the room, and these look to be urns or some other similarly shaped object d'art sitting on the mantlepiece.

As much as we all want to find something to nail them on (no pun intended, since we're talking crucifixes here) I really am pretty confident they are not crucifixes. Besides, I don't think those born again types go for the Catholic religious accoutrements.

[telamachus]

59. OMG

can't see it...wait is this one of those pictures you stare at funny and see things?

[daddybear]

63. This is good...for those who understand...

Bush is my shepherd,

I shall be in want.

He maketh me lie down on park benches.

He leadeth me beside the still factories,

He restores my doubts about the Republican Party.

He leadeth me into the paths of unemployment for his cronies' sake.

Yea, though no weapons of mass destruction have been found, he maketh me continue to fear evil..

His tax cuts for the rich and his deficit spending discomfit me.

He anointeth me with never-ending debt.

Verily my days of savings and assets are kaput.

Surely poverty and hard living shall follow me all the days of his administration,

And my jobless child shall dwell in my basement forever.