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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 02:55 PM
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I just don't get it
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 03:03 PM by Carla in Ca
Not taking polls into account or how each campaign is being managed but the mindset of so many in this country is what I find disturbing.

Any thinking person knows that * did not inherit a Clinton recession. It started March 2001. The surplus is gone. Deficit beyond belief.
Do Republicans think their kids won't suffer this burden?

September 11, 2001. Our worst attack, on his watch, with warnings including the August PDB but he is a hero and a great leader?
Are Republican friends and family of the dead voting for him?

War. Misled. Not enough troops. Getting worse by the day.
Are Republican friends and family of the dead and wounded voting for him?

Economy. Health care costs out of control, and that is not including the 45 million of us that don't have it! Poverty on the rise and no net-gain jobs created (a first since Hoover).

Say good bye to pollution regulations and hello to assault weapons. Don't Republicans go camping? Are all criminals Democrats? Do all Republicans have their kids in private schools?

What progressives find disturbing is a willingness by conservatives to keep this man in office for one thing...power. They must get it, keep it and use it for their own purposes. They want a Conservative, Christian-only nation. And when Clarence Thomas becomes the Chief Justice, with two new conservative justices, they shall get it; Democracy be damned.


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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 02:57 PM
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1. Don't understand it either
If ever there were more clear reasons why not to reelect someone, Bush has the clearest. I guess the general public is collectively lacking a few brain cells.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:01 PM
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2. That's why I have my Backside Of The Bell Curve Winner...
on my blog (usually on Fridays).

http://ascrivenerslament.blogspot.com/

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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:02 PM
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3. The Bible says in the last days,
there will be a fog of delusion settling over the people.

Sometimes I wonder . . .
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Beausoleil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:09 PM
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4. Here is a portion of a response I sent to my brother
when he referred to the hate infecting politics today. He is on the "dark" side.

" I agree with you that the political atmosphere is so highly charged that hate has replaced discourse. Kinda blows the 'uniter, not divider' theory out of the water (another Bush lie). However I contend that the Republicans represent the party of hate and intolerance, not the Democrats. Blame Newt Gingrich, blame Lee Atwater, blame Karl Rove. These are the hatemongers that have created the conditions we now see. Their lust for political power, and their ability to acheive it using any means necessary whether illegal, immoral or unethical are more important to them than the concerns of ordinary Americans. It's ironic that after a couple of decades of having the right-wing declare that liberals are evil and Democrats are corrupt (both lies), when Democrats stand up for themselves and start to throw a few punches back (even though true), they are accused of hate. Democrats recognize the total incompetence and danger represented by Bush II; it has nothing to do with personal like or dislike. You might see it as hate, but it is really disgust and sadness over what will become of our great nation.

And I am truly sad and disgusted."
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:11 PM
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5. I blame it on the company they keep.
It only takes one silver-tongued politician to convince a whole demographic of people with scare tactics to vote against their best interests. If they hear the same propaganda points in their church and if their friends are in agreement, then they will accept the premises without question.

I always was amazed at people I knew, who took Rush Limbaugh at face value. Many of them swore up and down that if Rush said it, it had to be true, because Rush could be trusted. After all he was one of them. I think he used the fear tactic very well. He appealed to their prejudices and pointed out that if you allowed those liberals to gain power that they would lose everything they had worked for all their lives.
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:10 PM
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9. Exactly!
My Dad worships that fathead. Needless to say we don't discuss politics much. As a conservative, my dad hates the deficit but doesn't change his vote.
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Barad Simith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:15 PM
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6. and here are the freeper answers
I'm friends with a few freepers. We rarely talk about politics, knowing the subject leads to fruitless arguments between us.

But my experience, when the subject of the election does come up, is that they will say anything to justify voting for Bush.

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This is how these conversations tend to go:

Any thinking person knows that * did not inherit a Clinton recession. It started March 2001. The surplus is gone. Deficit beyond belief.
Do Republicans think their kids won't suffer this burden?


"I don't see any of the wealthy liberals giving their tax refunds back."

September 11, 2001. Our worst attack, on his watch, with warnings including the August PDB but he is a hero and a great leader?
Are Republican friends and family of the dead voting for him?


"Why don't liberals want to go after the terrorists?"

War. Misled. Not enough troops. Getting worse by the day.
Are Republican friends and family of the dead and wounded voting for him?


"Don't we have a duty to topple evil dictatorships wherever we find them?"

Economy. Health care costs out of control, and that is not including the 45 million of us that don't have it! Poverty on the rise and no net-gain jobs created (a first since Hoover).

"Bush is presiding over the strongest economic recovery in history."

Say good bye to pollution regulations and hello to assault weapons. Don't Republicans go camping? Are all criminals Democrats? Do all Republicans have their kids in private schools?

"There's nothing wrong with the environment. That's a liberal myth."

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One of these freepers is a civil servant in a very secure job. He has every benefit and perk you can imagine, and all the overtime and double-overtime hours he wants. He can easily gross a hundred grand a year, if he chooses to work enough shifts.

But the rest are in the private sector, and are getting their wallet-ends pounded! Things are getting worse for them every month. And they're voting for Bush.
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:01 PM
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8. Even though I knew the answers
I still appreciate your post. Sometimes my husband and I think we are alone in our thinking, but we are not.



























I appreciate your post. If it gets worse, perhaps a little protest from the people?





















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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:19 PM
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7. I get it: Totalitarianism 201 -- The Final Push to Total Control
Amerikan style.

It's working again as it did in 1933.

We can only hope that if the Busheviks not be defeated that they and their children and their granchildren aren;t as monstrous and vile as the Caesers.

However, Bunnypants* quite resembles Tiberius in all things.

And Tiberius, inevitably, lead to Caligula and Nero, as it likely will here.

Will our quaint Amerikan tradition, dating back to the Old Republic, of shifting our Emperors every 8 years (now that Amerikan elections are a myth and a Third World joke) cause the Fall to come slower?

I don't know. Time will tell.
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