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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 02:58 PM
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Correct protocol for referring to living former Presidents
Edited on Sat Sep-11-04 03:16 PM by troublemaker
You can use this to drive certain people crazy, particularly by correctly referring to Bush's father as Ambassador Bush.

In America there is one President and one Vice President at a time, and those titles can only be applied to the person holding the office at the time. There is never more than one living person who can be properly called President. The titles does not follow a person into retirement.

"Former President" is an historical description, not a title. The moment a president leaves office he reverts to the highest title he has held short of the Presidency. (Similar to when a king abdicates and reverts to Earl of Whatever) Here are the proper titles of our last several Presidents if you were inviting them to a formal dinner (the dead ones are included only as examples):
General Eisenhower
Senator Kennedy
Senator Johnson
Representative Nixon
Representative Ford
Governor Carter
Governor Reagan
Ambassador Bush
Governor Clinton
Regarding Bush 41, in the rules of protocol Ambassador is a big deal and outranks Congressman or agency director. Ironically, GHW Bush has the same title as Carol Mosley Braun, Eleanor Roosevelt or Adlai Stevenson, all also better known for things other than ambassadorial posts. (Recall that Braun was called Ambassador Braun rather than Senator Braun in the debates)
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 03:04 PM
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1. You forgot Governor Carter.
Also, when * looses in November, he will be refered to as
"Fuhrer Chimp".
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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 03:17 PM
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3. Thanks! Added him.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 03:04 PM
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2. If true, NO ONE in any media adhears to it!
I was never much of a student of protocol, and I have no reason to dispute what you said. I do however find it a bit amusing that all media outlets don't follow this protocal. Actually, now, they seem to have resprted to just using the last name only. I hear Bush, Clinton, Bush 41, etc.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 03:34 PM
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5. Fox blonde bimbo referred to former president Clinton as Mr. Clinton...
I would bet that they refer to Poppy Bush as President Bush.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 03:20 PM
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4. LOL! I suspect that every one of the living former presidents
would have a fit if somebody actually used their "correct" titles.

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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 03:39 PM
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6. As usual, it all started with Regan
He was the first one the news broke protocol for, and unfortunately, Miss Manners and I still cannot get funding for the Etiquette Cops, so we can do little about it except to exert social pressure on those who use it wrongly. It adds up to a lot of letters in a year...
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