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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 11:11 PM
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It may already be too late for our democracy....
Go to the polls in November (bring as many people as possible) and vote for Kerry and the Democrats.

But if Chris Floyd is even remotely correct, it may already be too late to save our democracy....

"The Bushist movement also entails the destruction of ordinary politics. Any opposition to the "single sustainable model" --
even the timid deviations offered by the thoroughly corporatized
Democrats -- must be crushed, and relentlessly demonized as an
"attack on America from within," as the Bushists declared at their convention. Even the democratic process itself -- the Constitutionally mandated presidential election -- was scorned from the podium as nothing more than a "manic obsession to bring down our commander in chief." Thus the very idea of free, contested elections -- "the consent of the governed" -- is now openly dismissed as a dangerous
notion, a sign of mental illness."


http://context.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2004/09/10/120.html


Even with a Kerry win, the Bush residue will live on. I realized, when I was younger, that a Presidents' defacto declaring of war (no matter how legislatively packaged) appeared to be unconstitutional....I'm sure there are legal arguments to make the case, but I never understood them when the words in the Constitution seemed so clear....one example on how the Constitution has been twisted beyond the obvious.....

I feel sorry for you younger people, my children and grandchildren.....



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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 11:16 PM
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1. What does "Beslan" refer to in the article? nt
nt
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 11:20 PM
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3. The school hostage tragedy n/t
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 11:20 PM
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4. Isn't that....
....where the Russian school atrocities occured last week?
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NEOBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 11:20 PM
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2. Then we'll just have to FIGHT BACK!
You should say that the death of this U.S. government may be inevitable, but it's by no means the death of democracy, or the idea of America.

Remember, the founders included the Second Amendment for a reason. They knew very well the potential for people in government to become maddened by power.

If things get out of hand, we'll just have to set things straight!
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21winner Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:02 AM
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5. Oh MY!
Now we need a communist to advise us.
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:09 AM
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6. pay attention....
...to the message, not the messenger....
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:16 AM
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7. Not sure if he's a communist or not
But at this point I'll take a communist over any fascist.

What I DO know about Chris Floyd, after reading his columns off and on over the last 2 years or more, is that his political analysis is top o' the heap, easily right up there with Krugman and other stars. Ignore him at your peril. Dismiss him because of the publication he writes for at the risk of showing your ignorance.

I also have to say that I'm reminded that one of the key battle cries of fascists everywhere, from Nazi Germany on through the Cold War and beyond, has been an anti-communist near- or full-blown hysteria. I've come to understand that as a distinguishing characteristic (tho not necessarily the ONLY one or even a de rigeur, defining, or sine qua non feature -- yet another reason I'll take a communist over a fascist any day.
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