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Sputnik Donating Member (347 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 11:52 AM
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Will new film "Silver City" hurt Bush?
The film opens this Friday and stars Chris Cooper who obviously portrays a Bush-type politician named Dickey Pilager. Go to this link to see the trailer:

http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&cf=info&id=1808580602&intl=us


If you have a Salon subscription, you can see the first eight minutes of the film there. I don't go to a lot of movies anymore (the last I saw in the theater was F9/11, but I defintely want to see this one!)


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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 11:53 AM
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1. Looks great, and John Sayles is a wonderful filmmaker.
It'll have no effect on Bush or the election.
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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:03 PM
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2. I worry about this movie. In the trailer it appears that the character
starts off as an idiot and ends as a hero in the end. I may be reading the story line wrong, but it seems they try to make the Bush character likable in the end.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:06 PM
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3. Why is that a worry? It's not a biography — the film is fiction. (eom)
NT
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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:13 PM
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5. Because clearly Sayles is making reference to Bush in this character
If Cooper's character comes out likable in the end then he is sending message that someone's bad qualities, i.e. intellectual incuriosity, are okay as long as they "do the right thing" in the end. A character who is not real smart and rises to a challenge is always the hero in a movie. This quality is usually reserved for the working man in films. The over-privlegded idiots usually come out bad in the end.

Like I said, I don't know how the movie ends, so I could be wrong, but the trailer suggests it.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:43 PM
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7. Even so, it's fiction, and the people who are going to see a Sayles film
are not the kind of folks who see mainstream films. Sayles makes (for lack of a better word) "art" films, and the people who see the latest blockbusters aren't likely to see "Silver City" playing in their megaplexes. "F9/11" was a real fluke, and it's broad release was prompted and helped along by the early contretemps between Disney and Miramax.

Although the character is loosely based on Bush, it's not that anyone would think it is Bush.
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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:50 PM
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8. Sayles is an independent film maker and there are films he has
made that people seen on a more mainstream basis. Also, I see no reason why people will not associate this character with Bush.
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ChocolateSaltyBalls Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 02:46 PM
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12. I saw an interview with Sayles with (I think) Charlie Rose..........
and from the things he said, I heavily doubt that he'd ever make a Bush-like character sympathetic.
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Sputnik Donating Member (347 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 01:18 PM
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10. I didn't get the same thing from the trailer
so I guess we'll just have to see it to know how it ends, lol. :)

But, if Chris Cooper's character does do the right thing in the end, maybe Bush needs to have a White House viewing of the film, eh?

Nah, just as he doesn't do nuance, he doesn't understand subtlety either.


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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 04:06 PM
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13. You know I watched it again and I don't think the story line goes where
I thought it did. But had it, I stand by what I said.
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:07 PM
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4. I doubt it.
But when F9/11 comes out on video, we're gonna see a nice poll drop for Bush. It happened when it came out in theatres, and I suspec that the poll drop will be even larger since more folks will get to see it at home and/or at parties.

I predict a 3-point drop for the Chimp in ensuing polls.
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:40 PM
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6. Can't hurt.
Now, can it?

Gyre
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 01:04 PM
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9. undecided voters don't see independent films
Edited on Sun Sep-12-04 01:04 PM by maxsolomon
they're too busy figuring out how to walk & chew gum at the same time. i have nothing to back that up with.

but i bet its true.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 02:19 PM
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11. Great! The more exposes out there
the Better! Love Chris Cooper and I know for sure where Richard Dreyfuss' politics are.
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renegade000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 04:09 PM
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14. probably not
i mean it is fiction after all.
f9/11 has and will probably hurt bush more.
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VladTheImpaler Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 04:30 PM
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15. Most people won't make "the leap"...
...that's required for relating a movie to life. It'll never occur to 95% of the people who see it, betcha!
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 04:35 PM
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16. It looks like a great movie regardless
:hi:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 09:27 PM
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17. Here's a review I read in "Entertainment Weekly"
Edited on Sun Sep-12-04 09:31 PM by zidzi
Silver City

Chris Cooper, Maria Bello, Danny Huston, Billy Zane, Daryl Hannah, Richard Dreyfus


"As Dickie Pilager, A Clueless, Inarticulate Candidate for governor with a powerful politician for a father, sinister corporate backers, and an Everyman's Midwestern twang, Cooper mimics our president's(sic) inflections down to the last malaprop. But Sayles intended his film--about a disgraced ex-journalist(Huston)who uncoveres a conspiracy while investigating a dead body on the set of a Pilager TV ad--to be a much borader attack. "I based the character on bush because I wanted people to connect the dots between the movie and what's going on in our Country," he says. "But when you get past that, there's stuff that applies to all politicians and our whole system." Sayles wrote, directed, and finished the sprawling drama in a year, intent on a pre-election release tht he hopes inspires the public to think..and act. "You can't expect Spider-Man to come and fix .," he says. His cast seems to be equally dedicated: When asked if she's nervous about being in such a partisan film, Bello(who plays Huston's es) replies, "I'd be happy to be a part of any film that helps get george bush out of office." That would be a no,then."

There is no link..I typed this from the magazine.

Sounds like a Winner to me!~ And maybe it will have some impact.
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