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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 04:53 PM
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Randi Hannity . . . the new DEMOCRATIC verbal bully.
Yeesh! I thought we were above that behavior. I love Randi, her mind is unbelievable; however, this attitude she screams at people sometimes. Reminds me of Sean Hannity or that other "verbal bully" who Al Franken cannot stand. He needs to tell Randi she comes across that way sometimes. Not that it would do any good.

Whatever. I'm sure there are those of you out there saying it's her show and she can do what she wants and she is not a verbal bully, yada, yada, yada. Everyone gets passionate but she was just plain MEAN to that last guy that called her. One he said he was a Repub, she was verbally screaming at him and would not give him a second to answer her. Not fair, but, may get her the big bucks (which is her main priority I am sure).

Ahhh Capitalism . . . ain't it great?
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 04:55 PM
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1. Big Difference: She lets the opposition talk BEFORE slamming them
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 04:55 PM
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2. If being a left-wing Hannity gets the job done, then I say.....
IT'S ABOUT TIME WE HAD A LEFT WING RUSH/HANNITY!!!

Schultz and Rhodes!!!

:kick:
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:04 PM
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6. I disagree. She is too smart to fall into their stupid little traps,
plus, she has more class in her little finger then hannity does in his whole P-whipped body.

I have just never felt we needed to scream to get our point across. She verbally brutalized that man. I never heard him say anything except that he didn't vote democrat because we spend. Well, Randi went from that (which she was right, but she did not have to scream at the guy), plus went into other things, never let him get a word. It just reminded me so much of Hannity whenever he let a liberal through. I cannot stand someone to treat anyone beneath them. I guess I am one of those so-called "bleeding-heart liberals."

Just because THEY like the slime, screaming, distortions, name calling, etc., we don't have to be like that. Randi doesn't need to scream at anyone. Her wit can cut any of them in half in a heartbeat. I just hate it when she does that screaming and talking down to anyone. Just like hannity the jerk. Unacceptable in my opinion. So we can agree to disagree.

I still think Randi is the best thing we have on talk radio. I just cannot stand the screaming. Sue me????
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bookman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 04:59 PM
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3. Another difference...
.. she has facts and challenges opponents to look it up.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:02 PM
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4. I'd like to see her rip O'Reilly's balls off or make Rush cry
Edited on Mon Sep-13-04 05:02 PM by billbuckhead
It's about time we had someone like this.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:50 PM
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37. LOL. Now that is funny. . .
Brutal . . . yes; funny . . .yes.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:13 PM
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14. Not always. She *is* well-informed, but does sometimes....
... allow herself to go off a bit half-cocked. (I can imagine a Randi response to that phrase.)

And her factual credibility is not helped by her screaming at callers. Bottom line.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:03 PM
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5. At least she qualified that they do their homework first before calling
She doesn't suffer fools gladly.

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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:08 PM
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10. There's no way to judge whether he'd done his homework or not.
Randi never let the guy actually state what he was calling about. Anybody can be made to seem unprepared and ignorant when harassed by a bully. (Just go watch an episode of O'Reilly.)

He could have been VERY well informed on the subject to which he wanted to speak... but we'll never know. (Nor will we be immediately ready to respond in the future should this guy's question pop-up.)
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:11 PM
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13. You are putting an aweful lot of importance on a call in to Randi.
She has a limited amount of time on her show. She cant hear everyones opinion on everything in a desperate attempt to answer every point ever imaginable.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:15 PM
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16. Were you listening to the segment under discussion?
Or are you generalizing?

The truth of your point is inarguable, but it's not applicable to the incident under discussion.

Randi didn't let the guy make *any* point, let alone "every point ever imaginable."
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:37 PM
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28. You missed my point.
You are arguing that this fella, who called in, should be heard. Randi chose not to let him make a point (although she really did, if he chose to say liberals spend too much, as his first statement, he should not be surprised if he gets to make no more assertions) Randi exercises her judgement on every caller of how much she lets them say on the air. Some get alot, some get a little. Now if there was some special reason why this guy should have gotten more time... fine. But you havent argued that.

You just wanted to hear what he had to say and Randi didnt. She wasnt wrong to cut him off, anymore than she is ever wrong for limiting any callers time. If it is so valuable to our cause to hear his point, why isnt it valuable to hear all points. Randi should be critisized every time she doesnt let a conservative caller say everything he or she wants to say.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 06:05 PM
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39. A point was missed, indeed.
    You are arguing that this fella, who called in, should be heard.

No, I could give a crap about his opinion, and often express my view to Air America Radio that I prefer not to have to sit through Al Franken's Republican/Conservative "friends" -- and similar r-w propaganda.

I was primarily opining that Randi's approach in this particular instance was abrasive and likely doesn't help my cause. I'm of the opinion that this type of violent exchange only appeals to the believers, and will do little to inform or convince uneducated or right-wing brainwashed listeners.

    ...although she really did, if he chose to say liberals spend too much, as his first statement, he should not be surprised if he gets to make no more assertions)

I wholly agree with this. I'd love for the AAR hosts to follow a no BS rule, where they cut-off callers who just parrot the right-wing sound bites; however, I would hope that the interaction with the caller would be ended in a manner reciprocal to the caller's manner. Going off on a maniacal rant over top of the caller is... (see above).

    Now if there was some special reason why this guy should have gotten more time... fine. But you havent argued that.

Yes. I did. He was given "more time" but Randi chose to rant over top of whatever the guy was trying to say.

    You just wanted to hear what he had to say and Randi didnt. She wasnt wrong to cut him off, anymore than she is ever wrong for limiting any callers time.

No, I didn't "want" to hear what the guy had to say. And Randi didn't "cut him off." Randi kept the guy on the line and started yelling over whatever he was trying to say, ala Hannity, O'Reilly and the other right-wing bullies, until she finally ran out of steam and then disconnected the caller.

    If it is so valuable to our cause to hear his point, why isnt it valuable to hear all points. Randi should be critisized every time she doesnt let a conservative caller say everything he or she wants to say.

Again grasping out of thin air a point I did not make. Randi is being criticized for yelling over top of a caller while peppering his w/ rabbit-punch questions.

I'm comfortable enough with "our" facts that I don't feel we need to adopt the Hannity/O'Reilly bully approach. You, Randi and others are not, and that is OK, too.

(click)

see how it makes *me* look? did that last sentence help my argument? :)
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 06:07 PM
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40. Nah, she bullied the guy when his first sentence he stated he was . . .
a Republican. She laughed at him from the start. When she saw he was from Mass and a Republican, she asked him why he would be Republican when Mass has the best schools in the Country since dems were the majority there. She asked would he prefer their schools be like Texas and be 50th? He stated there were a lot more Repubs in Mass and growing.

Okay, he got a few words in, but when he said that, she went nuts, screaming question after question and not letting him answer any. Who knows what he was calling about. She kept demanding what he didn't like about Dems. He said "spending" which was stupid on his part. Well she went into a whole diatribe about that and more. He said something about 9/11 changed everything and she went into more screaming. Yes, she was screaming facts, but when he said, "you are not going to let me ask my question (probably not that long of a sentence). Randi said, "nope" and hung up on him. I just don't like verbal bullying and that is exactly what she was doing because she had the controls of the whole discussion. Haven't you ever heard the neocons get on their shows and someone asks a question and they smart off and say, "when you get your own show then you can and talk down to them and hang up? That's pretty much what she did.

She's above that. She's too smart for that. She would have made a better impression if she had let him make his statement then take him apart one piece at a time. Not just screaming this issue at him then another issue at him and not letting him answer hardly anything. She never took a breath.

All I'm saying is I never thought a liberal radio show would sound so much like listening to Sean Hannity. That's why I put the Randi Hannity.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:54 PM
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38. If someone comes on and loves her and agrees with everything . . .
and lets Randi do all the talking, hey, great ppl per Randi. When you question anything she says, it's like a hurricane was let loose on that person. I don't like that Hannity-type of talk radio. I had to quit listening to him when I started having images of homocide. (just kidding skinner). No, really, he just got on my last nerve. Really, really unfair.

I just feel Randi should have been a little fair to the guy. He never raised his voice once, and then when he finally got two words in, she hung up on him. She obviously tells us to try to convert; however, these little fits she has from time to time sure are not gonna bring any new voters on our side.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:05 PM
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7. Yeah, she was offsides on the Rethug who called in.
I'm left feeling empathy for him -- and not Randi -- because she never allowed him to make *any* point, for which he could have then, rightly, been reviled or pitied.

She needs to allow these idiots to at least make a statement. (Though I *will* concede that the caller *did* make a few side comments before trying to get to what, he said, he was really calling about. Randi shouldn't have to let the callers shotgun a bunch of nonsense at her, but it would help her cause if she didn't scream over the callers.)
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:07 PM
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8. It's funnier when she lets them say their usual things
their usual stupid things ("tax and spend") and then verbally eviserates them.

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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:09 PM
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12. Yes, give them enough rope with which to hang themselves...
... rather than coming across as a one-woman lynch mob.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:20 PM
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19. Yeah, but if you disagree with her, you are given the very typical
. . . response of "don't listen to her", "turn the channel."

I thought this WAS America and we could post our opinions. Like I said before. We agree to disagree.

I never told anyone they do not have a right to their opinion just because I do not like their opinion. I just voiced my opinion and used Hannity as the example she was coming across as. I think Al called O'Reilly a "verbal bully."

She didn't let the guy get out one word, hardly breathe really. She was too eager and chomping at the bit.

I wouldn't miss Randi . . . but I'm not going to kiss her butt when I disagree with her. She is not ALWAYS right. However, she does make sure she has the facts. I know there are not any lies that come out of her mouth. Also, I get so tired of her calling a lot of the liberals that call in "lazy democrats." I mean, what does she do for the Democratic Party? Isn't she making 6 figures for her work? Where is her volunteer work for the party? Don't call others "lazy Democrats when she doesn't do anything either. She's getting paid well for what she contributes. I think that is unacceptable and I have told her that. I got put on probation on her board.

So much for democracy on The Randi Rhodes Boards. I said it just like I said it above . . . no obscenities, just voiced my opinion. Got put on probation. Asked them why, never got a reply.

Go figure?????

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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:32 PM
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23. "She didn't let the guy get out one word,"
See my other post

Sorry you got banned.

Her salary is not your concern.

Are you volunteering for the good fight?

Private web boards are not a democracy.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 06:16 PM
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41. The comment wasn't strictly about salary
The poster was commenting on Randi's labeling callers as "lazy" without really knowing what else they have going on in their lives.

Assuming, as a total w-a-g (though likely underestimating), Randi spends 12 hours a day on her job -- researching, prepping and doing her broadcast, is it reasonable for her to label a caller as "lazy" if they have to work 12 hours a day on some job in order to make ends meet, leaving little time for political research? (Aside from the fact that not every caller has Internet access -- high-speed or otherwise.)

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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 06:18 PM
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42. Wow.
Didn't know there was a list of Internet rules that applied to every board.

Thanks, but I didn't get banned. I am just on probation.

Her salary is not my concern . . . you are absolutely 100% right. However, she brings it up every other day.

I am a poll watcher every election. Do not get paid. Plus, I volunteer to design fliers and the like. Don't get paid. Do not make six figures. Do not yell at people I debate. Best friend's hubby is a neocon. We discuss it, he gets loud, and I just kinda sit back and wait for him to finish and then show him where he could possibly be wrong. You know . . . actual debating.

Private web boards are for every opinion I thought. I think her board should practice what she preaches.

She is not perfect I know. She is a human being, I know. Did she treat this man humanely, uhhhhhhh, I guess it depends on if you heard it or not.

Also, she is not always right and OBVIOUSLY cannot take constructive criticism.

I still love Randi. I just hate when she turns into a neocon verbal Bully.

If you want to see how to get on probation on her site, type the above sentence. That's all I said. Seems a little over sensitive to me.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:32 PM
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24. Probation... funny. (And a little sad.)
Your comment re: volunteer work vs paid is an intriguing one, especially from the perspective you present of Randi's deriding "lazy" callers. That *would* be interesting info to review. Of course, she has to spend an inordinate amount of her time digging up all the info she brings to the show. I doubt that she has much of a personal life.

As for Randi's truthfulness, I agree with your statement that "there are not lies that come out of her mouth"; but would qualify that not everything that comes out is factually accurate. She *does* do a good job of *trying* to be factually accurate, but she's burdened, it would appear, with a lack of support -- and sometimes goes a bit virtual-reality when in a full-blown rant.

Regards...



p.s. Just to be clear. I'm in nearly complete agreement with you. Your reply to my post gave me the impression that you might have mistaken my post as criticism of your criticism.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 06:27 PM
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43. Oh no, I meant my response for the poster above you.
I am glad someone else is open minded enough to call a spade a spade. Just because she is the best liberal radio has right now does not mean she cannot be criticized on some of her behavior.

I agree with you. Randi will get the facts, but like you said, she will get a little wild when she is on a rant. Also, her interpretation may be a little different then someone elses, but if they call in and state that (even though both comments are true), Randi wants to chew them a new A-Hole because it is not exactly like hers.

She probably doesn't have a lot of time, who knows. Also, she doesn't know how much time any of her callers have to volunteer. She is quick to call people "lazy liberals" and blame them for everything wrong in the Democratic Party. It's a little bit over the top sometimes. However, I will give Randi credit for one thing . . . she is hysterically funny and nobody, NOBODY on either side of the isle can touch her when she uses her wit and comedic talent to make her points. I love that. Always my first laugh of the day.

My favorite is when she called Dick Cheney's Lesbian daughter a "vagitarian." (lol) She wasn't disrespecting his daughter, that is her life. She was making a joke about Cheney finally admitting he had a lesbian daughter. Her "vagitarian" comment was hysterical.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:09 PM
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11. Why dont we let Randi choose
which callers she thinks are going to provide for good radio?
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:19 PM
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17. And why don't we let each DUer choose...
... how they feel about Randi?

The discussion has nothing to do with an email or letter campaign to force a change in Randi's behavior, or early planning for a radio coup. The original thread post simply expressed concern that Randi's approach was less-than-optimal, in *that* DUers view.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:39 PM
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30. I am not discussing feelings about Randi, I am discussing
comparisons to right wing radio personalities and the concept that Randi is doing something bad for the cause or in some sense less than ethical just because she doesnt appeal 100% to one listener.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:03 PM
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57. I really do not think I am the only one . . . do you?
She sure isn't helping our cause screaming at people over the airways. She will call you a "lazy liberal" in a heartbeat, yet every bit of the work she does for the Democratic Party she is paid for.

Do you know of any volunteer work she does for free? She probably does but doesn't mention it, who knows. I'll say it b4 you do . . . it's her own business, but she judges people in a heartbeat.

Randi is entertaining, sometimes educational, and sometimes obnoxious. I suppose a typical woman. Nuff said!

Reminds me of a poster I use to have. (Don't get your panties in a wad now I'm just saying what the poster did but using Randi's name. She would laugh if she saw it).

Randi Rhodes can go from zero to Bitch in 2.3 seconds.

Also, you could put any woman's name in there, and it pretty much is true. Yes, I am a woman too.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 06:30 PM
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44. We do . . . don't we. Do we have some control I am not aware of???
Just kidding. I know what you are saying. I just love the way she can get her point across with her wit and comedic talent so much better than screaming. I wouldn't miss her show AND I record it everyday on line.

I'm a huge fan, so huge I have an archive of her shows so far. So, just because I don't like something she does, and feel I can voice it here to discuss it does not mean I'm cutting RR or trying to insult her. It's just my opinion . . . and you know what they say about opinions . . . they are like A*****, ever body's got one.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:07 PM
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9. Why do you think your taste is objective?
Randi isnt serving as a judge on a federal bench, she is not obligated to give people time to speak on her show. She doesnt even have to take calls. She could use an entirely different format. Her callers choose to call in to her show, she can treat them however she wants. People can than choose to listen to her or not and choose to call in to her or not. If people are choosing to listen and call in, it means her attitude is fine for them, and just not fine for you.

So dont listen, or listen and cope, dont smear her by comparing her to right wingers who are bombastic with lies when Randi is bombastic with facts. The fact that you dont totally like the way her show goes, doesnt mean she is doing something ethically bad, her format just isnt quite your cup of tea.

I dont come her talking about how the friends spinoof Joey is alot like sean hannity because they both annoy me with thier stupidity.

You dont like radio personalities who talk over people and yell at people and cut people off. Fine, its called different tastes, this isnt an issue of ethics.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:31 PM
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22. couldn't agree more............
when randi heard this guy come out with his tired old republican meme of "tax & spend" liberals, she didn't let him finish, and i don't blame her. these guys call in to progressive shows & spew right wing talking points & hang up. randi, being the cunning & brilliant talk show host that she is, doesn't allow them to make those stupid points without challenging them before they have a chance to hang up on her.

GO RANDI!!!!
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:14 PM
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15. Hezbollah!
:D
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:20 PM
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18. NOT ONE POINT!!!!!!!!!!
I guess all you nay sayers missed the caller Say "Everything changed after 911"

Is that not a talking point?



Geebus
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:40 PM
Response to Reply #18
32. Yes, I heard that. And agree that it's nonsense.
But he said that only after being thrown into defensive mode under the barrage of Randi's wooords.

And when one of Them use a pat phrase like "everything changed after 9/11" I'm even more eager to hear what point they *REALLY* called to make, because it's almost guaranteed to be easily-refuted and ridiculed nonsense. Randi's preemptive strike minimized the potential value of the interaction, by making herself look intolerant and bullying.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:48 PM
Response to Reply #32
36. "Barrage" my sweet patooty
Joe Paycheck only gets the sound bites.

When folks making slave wages with ZERO bennies vote republican something is broken.

Wow "The devil" Randi just called the current Moran Sweety?!?
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:34 PM
Response to Reply #36
65. I gave a simple opinion and had a few people agree with me and . . .
it has turned into "The Evil Randi."

That is your words, not mine. I never said that, never implied that, ever claimed that, and never WOULD say that. You would make a good politician.

This has totally been blown out of proportion.

You have totally twisted my post from a post of my own personal opinion into Randi is evil.

I give up. I'm totally switching parties because I cannot believe how my fellow democrats have attacked me over such a small statement. I am no longer a democrat and will vote for Dubya. I will also campaign for him. I have never felt so much hate because of one statement. I just have one more thing to say . . .

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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:40 PM
Response to Reply #65
67. I said "the devil"
Or did you leave the D off on accident.


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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:54 PM
Response to Reply #67
71. What do you want me to say????
I feel if I told you it was overlooked, you are going to tell me how stupid I must be. However, I also feel if I tell you I did it on purpose, you will say that I'm now putting words in your mouth.

So, which do you want me to say???:shrug:
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 10:15 PM
Response to Reply #71
77. I have never called you stupid
I have never accused you of putting words in my mouth.

Can't we just hug and listen to Malloy?
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 10:22 PM
Response to Reply #77
80. Well, okay. I've been listening while I've been on line too.
He screams and hollers, but he does that all the time. It's just his style. I love the way he refers to the "Bush Crime Family." I love em both ppl. I've been saying it for over 80+ posts (thank you all for contributing. This is the very first time one of my posts has remained a hot topic). Who is Pedro Pahn?????

:toast:

Okay, everybody else, come on . . . :grouphug:
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 06:34 PM
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46. No, I posted that in a message above. He also never said anything
about "taxes" He did say spending though. (I went back and listened). I could type verbatim what she said, but it would not change anyone's mind.

He really did not sound like the typical Repub that calls in and is a pure a-hole. He never raised his voice once. I wonder what he did call about??????
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:27 PM
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20. The 'murikkkan hate-fest
is an equal opportunity activity for those both
"left" and "right!"

Anyone remember "Animal Farm" by George Orwell?
HELLO?

BHN
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:38 PM
Response to Reply #20
29. Yes-I read Animal Farm in the seventh grade.
Put me into a depression for two months.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:46 PM
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35. Me too-
It's hard to watch the sequel happening all around us.
Funny how people don't recognize the behavior when
it is exhibited by so called members of "the movement."
BHN
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 06:36 PM
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47. Just two months???? (nt)
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:29 PM
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21. Big difference
She has a radio show, you don't.

I'll stick with her...

RL
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 06:38 PM
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48. How can you be so judgementally subjective when I have not . . .
even been offered my own radio talk show? I may be the best thing since backed bread on the airways. My ratings could possibly beat Randi's even. Anything is possible. It's America afterall.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:34 PM
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25. Capitalism IS Great
mealy-mouthed monotone "liberal" radio has been tried before and is never too terribly successful (Pacifica for example.)

Glad we can give back the way the right has.

Funny, democrats always scream "why don't we fight back???"

When we do, we get dribble like yours.

...and the daily anti-Randi thread.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:36 PM
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27. Along with the nightly anti-Malloy thread
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:39 PM
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31. which I never participate in
:)
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:44 PM
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34. !
:yourock:
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 06:45 PM
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49. Excuse me please. I would appreciate your . . .
not calling my opinion "dribble." I think the appropriate term is "drivel" if you are trying to insult me (which is not a very nice thing to do to someone for just giving their opinion).

I don't think we have to copy the Conservatives radio format or Faux News . . . do you? So you are saying unless we scream, put people down, out-and-out lie (Sean Hannity is unbelievable), and constantly have to tell everyone that anyone that does not think our way is ignorant, is not patriotic, is against our troops, hate God, etc., that we will not have a successful Liberal radio talk? I disagree.

Randi has it all hands down with her comedy routines. She does not need to yell like a menopausal woman having a hot flash to make her point. Randi has more talent in her little finger than any other talk radio out there . . . conservative and/or liberal. Also, I do not think she got to where she is today by constantly screaming. I think it is her intelligence with the issues as well as her sarcastically funny opinions. Randi Rawks.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 07:00 PM
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53. If you prefer drivel, then drivel it is
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:45 PM
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69. Actually, I liked the "dribble"
Made snot come out of my eyes. (chortle, chortle!)
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 10:13 PM
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76. Two votes for dribble
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Kipepeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:36 PM
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26. I love Randi
She is not Al Franken. they cannot be expected to have the same style. I think both are necessary and have an audience. I happen to love both for different reasons.

The difference between Randi and Hannity is that Randi lets people talk first, then she slaps them down with facts. Hannity just shouts people down without any facts or information to back up his opinions. He's not just a bully, he's a liar. Randi speaks the truth, even when she has to bully some idiot with it.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:41 PM
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33. The far left has a new enemy. Her name is Randi Rhodes
Blast from the past:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1338082

Well, not really. But to some of you, she is Satan.

Shaking my head in wonder. It is so sad how some on the far left LOOK for things to piss them off. Amazing how knocking Ralph Nader down a notch or two inspires such vitriol.

Randhi Rhodes is the thing that pulls this station down. She is absurdly rude to many people. She shouted down Ralph Nader to the point where he hung up. Before that she sarcastically replied to dozens of callers. It's just generally mean. -- Alexa Review


First let me say my politics are left of most points made by Randi Rhodes. I find Randi to be SO OFFENSIVE. She is precisely
what gives Liberalism its BAD name... I must say I was hoping
for something other than the FLIP side of Micheal Savage... I hope TALK LEFT RADIO can do one thing TALK RIGHT has yet to do. CHANGE someones OPINION. Randi Rhodes is a HUGE LIABILITY. -- GJEMD, Air America forum.

Randis got what I call radio bitch fever, I'm on the radio, I have power, I can yell and treat people like dirt, Hey Randi, cool it your acting no better then the Republican scum we are trying to change. Hey Al you would have done way better to have gotten Ed Schultz on your show!!!!! -- Democratic Kid, Air America forum.


More like those in the Alexa reviews, Air America forums, and DU's own discussions.

I'm so glad I'm a democrat. I'm so glad my beliefs finally have a presence on the air - being led by a strong liberal with a proven record in garnering huge ratings in radio.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 06:57 PM
Response to Reply #33
51. I never went that far and for you to post such an extreme post
was completely unnecessary. Obviously we liberals feel we can voice our opinions regarding another liberal without totally being exiled like Freepers tend to do to each other. Then again, after this thread, I'm starting to wonder if anyone is allowed to even question another liberal's opinion without getting their head bitten off.

I was just voicing an opinion (of which others agreed); however, most have attacked me for even having an regarding an incident that was an exception of the rule. I have not been mean spirited and over and over have repeated how much I enjoy Randi's Show.

I feel like I'm in the "Twilight Freeper's Zone" or something.

I hope God will forgive me. Obviously, some of you hope I burn in hell because I voiced an opinion regarding Randi yelling.

(signed off this subject for now. The debate was actually interestingly stimulating until it started getting mean . . . why does it always have to be like that???)
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 06:59 PM
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52. oh, c'mon!
No one here is stopping you from posting anything. You just can't post something and not expect to be disagreed with. If you want that power, start a blog.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 08:51 PM
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56. Hmmmmm . . .
That is so involved. I do not have that much time in the day to keep up with a blog and the research involved.

I'd love to have my own political board; however, and again, a lot of work for one person. Plus, if it becomes popular, it gets expensive.

Randi Rawks:headbang:
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 10:36 PM
Response to Reply #51
84. YES- I WILL. ALL IS FORGIVEN.
Heehee!
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 10:29 PM
Response to Reply #33
83. So sorry I had to go feed the family.
Edited on Mon Sep-13-04 10:42 PM by RevRussel
Ain't DU wonnerful-like a time machine- I get to come in hours later and rudely interrupt a private argument. I must respectfully disagree with you. Rude, loud -mouth lefties are not what gives liberals a bad name. The bad name we get because ditzy, foul, adolescent-brained r/w fascists call us bad names and we, in our much vaunted tolerance and thoughtful conscience-driven lack of repartee hump up and take it. We eat way too much skit precisely because we are who/what we are. Is this bad? No, it is not good or bad; it just is what it is.

The problem gets a boost when these school-yard bullies stick their waggle handed thumbs in their ears, pointing and yelling yah-yah and the rest of the group-think idiots gang up and join in. Even if the rest are not r/w idiots, the natural tendancy of human beings, who have not gotten the habit of thinking before reacting pounded into their reflex patterns, is to join in with the pack and drag the injured prey down! They may be sorry as hell for it later, but that is later, and they can't help themselves.

I, too see Randi as embarassingly abrasive at times, but, I suspect, whether she knows it or not, this is a kind of control device, a kind of rattrap-with-chain-attached locked on testicles dragging. This accomplishes at least two things. Remember- the bastard at the other end of the phone had every option to hang up, and he did no such thing. Why?

If he were a normal liberal, he would be absolutely stunned at such a ferocious attack, might sputter and stutter, might hang up. This guy sat right there in fascinated semi-silence and allowed her to abuse the shit out of him. Have you ever wished you could just saw the balls off a loud-mouthed idiot thug? I bet she just loved it. The second thing she did was serve notice, without having to say anything about it, that she was abolute master of the universe and everyone who opposed her was at her mercy-she was totally in control and no damned mistake. This was just one caller and she, of course, gets thousands. As you most certainly know, from this very thread, a thug will sieze advantage in a heartbeat, with absolutely no remorse whatsoever, if he senses weakness-which, as also I'm sure you are aware, is the way that most of those bullies on that side of the line view us, on this side.

So, is RR mean, nasty, downright freaky sometimes? Yep. Probably has to be-sometimes.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 06:33 PM
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45. THE SKY IS FALLING!!!
again.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 06:51 PM
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50. She does go overboard sometimes...so I know what you mean..but..

...she is EXTREMELY well-informed, and does her own research. I think it's just personal preference, because I can tolerate (and even enjoy) her a lot more than Mike Malloy, which is almost like being treasonous around here on DU I guess.

I LIKE RANDI!
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:22 PM
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63. Where have I gone wrong . . .
I LIKE Randi too. I'd never miss Randi. I record Randi's show everyday and even keep an archive of her shows for my own personal use for reference because Randi is such a fact freak, and I love that about her. She doesn't just sit and say, "Oh, that's not true . . . that's a lie." She would not only say that but then she would prove where the person's statement is a lie.

I LOVE RANDI. Please do not banish me DU's. I beg of you.

Next time Randi yells, I promise, I'll keep my opinion to myself. Will that work for some of you?

I guess the reason it does bother me is because I kind of put myself in that person's place. Obviously, my own fault, and I shall punish myself with a timeout later tonight. They say a timeout should last as many minutes as a person is old. That means I'm going to have a very, very, very long time out. But I will have atoned and will find peace on DU. If need be, I'll get some friends to throw some stones at me.

DISCLAIMER: (The above BS is meant to be humorous to all. Hopefully, it will not offend anyone. If anyone is offended, please call 1-800-kiss-my-grits and file an official complaint. If you do not feel that you have been treated fairly, then I strongly suggest you get your head out of (CENSORED . . . )
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 08:01 PM
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54. Did Anyone hear the Franken David skit last week?
Davis kept cutting of the speaker and trying to finish their sentence.
It was funny.

Yeah, Randi lacks a bit of professionalism. She is great and a pleasure to listen to for the most part, but she has a know it all, "I don't even have to let you finish you sentence" type of persona that makes it less pleasurable for the listener. She frequently doesn't even let the caller make a point before she starts paraphrasing what she thinks they were going to say and then clobbers them with her canned response in that area.

But you can't tell her anything because she's he greatest thing to hit radio since electricity and she's been doing it for 20 years, (after a pause she then realizes it's only 15, but then, who's counting?)
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:13 PM
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59. Amen to that. That was all I was pretty much saying but some . . .
of the folks on the board took it kind of personal. I have said over and over through the thread that I would never miss Randi . . . but isn't there ALWAYS room for improvement for everyone (including myself 4sure). Randi is not good at taking any constructive criticism.

I think it was during her first week or two on in New York. A lady called in and told her how she admired her . . . the usual. Then the lady asked Randi if she could say one more thing and Randi said sure. The woman then proceeded to tell Randi that she loved her show in every way, except when she gets so brash with some of her callers. Randi and the lady had been having a very nice conversation up until that point. Then Randi told the woman, "This has worked for me for the last 10 years so I guess I'll keep doing what I'm doing." Then Randi just hung up on the lady. Constructive criticism was all she was giving. Randi cannot handle it.
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stavka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 08:08 PM
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55. I don't like the fact she just makes shit up...
Like today, she said no police officer had been killed by an assault weapon since the ban....

I knew one that was, and certainly know of three within 20 minutes drive for Christ's sake.....

She's sexxxyyyy though....gonna have to get that issue from this last weekend (Boston)
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:06 PM
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58. So you are hot for Randi. For Christ's sake puh-leeze call that
woman. She stated that she was feeling bad one day, so she decided she needed to see a gynecologist. She said she picked the oldest gynecologist she could find because his hands would shake. She said you gotta do what you gotta do. (Prime Randi Rhodes) laughing . . .
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stavka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:22 PM
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64. ...if she doesn't know she already has her pick, she's really sick...
She would need a psychiatrist....She is who she is - she can either pick from the herd, or go her own way. (No intended Fleetwoodmac royalties intended there)

I'm willing to fly to the New York/New Jersey area if it makes that much of a difference in a young woman's life - but I think we can all agree it won't.

Rock On!
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Hanover_Fist Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:16 PM
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60. Randi is a funny one
I love what she has to say, but have to experience her in small doses.
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BeachBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:21 PM
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61. I will probably regret this but........
I want to throw my two cents worth in here. First of all, Randi and Mike Malloy are the hardest working pair in the industry. Both come to the studio each day armed with facts and pure talent. In my humble opinion they are the best in the industry....bar none!

As for the yelling now and then? Let me tell you its very difficult to keep quiet when you have spent all your waking hours preparing for a show so you can have all the facts for your listeners and then have some bozo call in and start spouting BS with nothing behind it but hot air. Sometimes there is nothing else to do but shout them down. The callers certainly do it to the host when they have the chance. But, when they are spewing pure nonsense and you see you are never going to make your point there is nothing at all wrong with verbally kicking their asses. Thats what they deserve. If they want to verbalize their Right-Wing horse crap let them call their Right-Wing idols and do it there. When we host a show with our time and our money the callers speak at our discretion. The callers do not have the RIGHT to speak but, rather, are granted the PRIVILEGE to speak on our programs.

Lastly, when you condemn a host for getting a little nasty with callers, remember that part of the program mission is ENTERTAINMENT. Never forget that.



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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:45 PM
Response to Reply #61
68. Okay, I did not "condemn" anyone, but you need to remember . . .
something too, if it were not for the listeners who are sometimes callers, you would not even have a show. Now tell me I am wrong. If you have a show doing great now, you may feel that you will go on forever, but one wrong word, one complaint, and how many stations dropped Stern? You are being paid (very well per Randi) to Entertain US . . .Yep US, cause without US, you would be nowhere.

Also, if you are an entertainer that is paid very well and have a successful show, then why are you crying foul over some constructive criticism? Are we that keep you in a job not allowed to have opinions? These radio hosts sure have a lot of "opinions" of their own and they talk about them everyday. They get to express themselves everyday on the airways. Well, as long as WE continue to listen to them; however, if they start to alienate their listeners, they may have to go back to driving a truck.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 11:04 PM
Response to Reply #68
89. This has got to be the most fun
Thread I've seen in a while, 'specially with all the wounded brain stuff on memos, typewriters, freeper attacks, on and on. Listen, Frank Fed, if you go off somewhere and don't come right back here and start another argument, I'll...I'll.. never speak to you again--so there! Teehee
I feel so much better now. All who contributed to this thread have brightened my day and have given the world an inkling that there might be hope for the human race! Thanks! Off to browse a bit.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:50 PM
Response to Reply #61
70. So how much did you save posting here instead of paying for
some advertisement. I think your post should be removed because that is all you are using it for . . . free advertisement.
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BeachBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 10:11 PM
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74. Paying for advertisement?
Evidently, you aren't any smarter than Randi's caller you are defending. When people call with logic like yours the screeners always give a thunbs up and put them at the top of the list. Why don't you call my show with this piece of crap subject of yours? Free ads? God, thats funny!!
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 10:44 PM
Response to Reply #74
85. Yeah, I'm a stupid person for even bringing this up. . .
Of course, I am on a lot of meds so that could be part of it.

I have never listened to your show so I would not know if you are entertaining or not. You are right about Randi and Mike . . . no one can touch them.

Also, none of my posts were meant to take up for the caller. If it came out that way, I didn't mean for it to. My bad! Don't be haten.

I have never heard of you before. (I do not mean that to be insulting); however, it's the truth. I do sincerely hope you do well for yourself.

However, I honestly seemed to me that your post was shamefully used for cheap publicity.

As far as my subject being crap . . . well, a lot of people had something to say about it, even you had your two cents. Either they were with me, or they were against me; there was no gray area.

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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 10:12 PM
Response to Reply #70
75. WTF?
Edited on Mon Sep-13-04 10:16 PM by LincolnMcGrath
It is a sig line.


P.S. My sig line is not endorsed by or in any way connected to the Mike Malloy Program.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 10:20 PM
Response to Reply #61
79. Everything he said. I support Beach buckeye 100% too......
Especially when he yells. Then I support him 200%......
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:22 PM
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62. Yada...yada...yada... another Freeper attack mode.
she is helping us or do you prefer she not help us? Can I suggest that you not watch?
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:38 PM
Response to Reply #62
66. Helping us do what . . . trying to get people to vote
for Kerry by screaming at them. Oh yeah, that should work really, really well. As far as a freeper, you can find them at freerepublic.com.

I contribute monthly to DU and will not be called a "Freeper."

How dare you . . . I challenge you to a dual. (not tonight because I'm way to tired. Maybe tomorrow or maybe hold it off until the weekend).

So this is what it has come to.

Please skinner, lock this up.
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stavka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:55 PM
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72. Randi YES Duels YES - there is no middle ground (NT)
...honestly, I'm just killing time waiting for the Japanese markets to open...

..yeah,...right
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AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 11:22 PM
Response to Reply #66
91. actually, it does help. some people see that shouting down as strength
how many times do you here people say that bush is strong on terrorism? it's certainly not based on any policies, numbers, facts, or reality. but he plays the rogue cowboy act while wearing that empty bravado all the time. it all contributes to the "impression" of strength--stupid as it may be. Like it or not, we live in a society of people like that.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 10:06 PM
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73. Randi Rhodes gets it and I support her 100%
We have to many people in our party who don't understand these people on the right just want us dead. they hate us and there's nothing we can do about it. Randi has moral clarity. If he said Dems spend to much then he was a waste of time anyway. HIS conservative leader (gawd) has spent more than any president in history. he had NO INTENTION of having a real exchange and should have been slammed. I didn't hear it but if she would have hung him on the air it's nothing he wouldn't have done to her. If Kerry acted more like her his poll numbers would shoot thru the roof. When are people going to learn.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 10:16 PM
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78. The main difference between Randi and Hannity is that SHE tells the truth.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 10:50 PM
Response to Reply #78
88. I agree 110%. (nt)
(nt)
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 10:24 PM
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81. The daily "Hate Randi" thread
:eyes:



Randi is a true patriot. She tells it like it is. Unfortunately, after years of Republican-controlled media, people absorb sound bytes and yelling better than the dulcet tones of NPR. It's what they're used of.

Just turn the damn radio off.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 10:50 PM
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87. No, I like her show. Plus, I did not know there was a daily
hate Randi post. That is not what my post was about? I never said I hated Randi. I have said over and over how much I respect her. I just hate when she yells. I feel it brings "us" down to "their" level and I think we can hold our heads high for NOT being like the neocons. Randi Rhodes is the best I've heard yet. I just don't like the yelling. That's all I, basically, have been saying.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 11:08 PM
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90. That dumbass today deserved to be ripped a new one
he didn't have any facts.
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TriMetFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 10:28 PM
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82. Was this the same guy that was anti-choice?
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 10:47 PM
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86. I do not know because he never got his question out.
He could have been a smart ass (he never got enough out of his mouth to tell). Maybe Randi can "instinctively" know by their tone or something.

Hell, after all of this, I don't remember my own name right now.
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