How is Bush a socialist?

[K. F. Gibbons]

I thought I saw a post here about How Bush is a socialist. I'm composing a LTE and need the nity gritty.
please help

[olddem43]

1. Apparently, he has never earned any money on his own

but largely lived off the taxpayers and special interests. He has never really produced anything or had a productive job.

[K. F. Gibbons]

3. same can be said of Kerry

What I need are examples of detainee abuse, CIA in our church etc.
Please help.

[Darranar]

8. What does detainee abuse have to do with socialism? n/t

[Darranar]

6. That doesn't make him a socialist. It makes him a recepient...

of welfare for the rich.

[bvar22]

2. bush* a "socialist"? Don't think so.

Aristocrat, plutocrat, elitist, oligarch, corporatist, NeoCon, authoritarian, Imperialist, Warmonger, racist, white supremacist andFASCISTper the Mussolini definition,
but not socialist

[K. F. Gibbons]

4. Oh come on!!

socialist in that the government spies on its citizen, detained without a lawyer, sighing a pledge at the rallies. I need more specific examples of stuff like that. It need something pithy.

[Darranar]

7. That isn't socialist. That's authoritarian. n/t

[realisticphish]

10. agree with poster above

socialism is an economic situation (i.e. like capitalism). authoritarian or totalitarian is what you're looking for. or facist, for that matter

:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat

[bvar22]

16. First, you should read up on "socialism".

I believe that you are looking for examples of Authoritarian Police State.





"Socialism" is an economic system successfully used by many of the countries of Northern Europe (in a modified form). It can easily be blended with regulated capitalism to produce economic incentive, a level playing field for competition, and a healthy commonwealth.

"Socialism" is more common in the USA than you are aware of.
Our: Police Depts
Fire Depts
Highway system
Public Schools
Social Security
Coast Guard & Military
Food & Drug testing and protection
All are examples of successful applications of "socialism".

Publicly owned utilities are another example, though these have been successfully destroyed by the Republicans (with the help of some "bought" Democrats). See how well ENRON worked?

Hope this helps.

[Selwynn]

21. Umm.. none of those things have anything to do with socialism

[Cheswick2.0]

26. apparently you have no idea what socialism is

google and get beck to us.

[amerikat]

5. Sociopath maybe

I don't think he knows what he is.....he just repeats what other tell him to say.

[K. F. Gibbons]

9. O.K. Listen!

When the freeptards speak of socialism, they mean the big government type of socialism. When they accuse Kerry of being socialist it is in the vain of socialized medicine and big government stuff. I'm trying to throw this back in their face and you guys are not playing along.

[realisticphish]

11. but the things you name are NOT SOCIALIST

i agree that they use this line to describe kerry, but that doesn't make authoritarianism socialism

:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat

[leesa]

12. Socialist? No , but he is a welfare queen to the max

All the money he stole from the public for his fantasy baseball team ought to clue you in. Of course, you don't want to be clued in, do you.

[K. F. Gibbons]

14. Whats this "I don't want to be clued in crap"

I understand that Bush is not a text book socialist. I've got a letter to the editor that I'm trying to respond to where a writer accuses Kerry of being a Socialist using the big government health care crap. I'm trying to throw it back in his face with Bush's big government stuff. Have I given you a clue what I need yet.

[Green Lantern]

19. you might mention

that anyone who has served in the US military, and any service member dependents who have received medical care through the military , has enjoyed our own version of socialized medicine.

We have had this form of socialized medicine for many years, under both dems and Reps. It used to work pretty well.

Bushwa supports social welfare for the wealthy and for corporations.
Bushwa supports the concept of his cronies supping at the public trough of gov't money (Halliburton, Bechtel, Enron etc.), which is a form of socialism.

Enjoy!

[NoPasaran]

13. I think you mean National Socialist AKA Nazi

You know, using an act of terrorism to begin dismantling constitutional government and rule by decree... brand political opposition as treason... launch unprovoked wars of aggression... detain prisoners in secret camps not subject to international inspection...

Is that the sort of thing you're looking for?

[K. F. Gibbons]

15. On the freaken money.

thankyou,,,,,,,,,, jeez what that so freaken hard.

[bvar22]

18. Presidents who have "Grown Government" the most....

...since WW11:
1) Ronald Reagan
2) George W Bush (may have surpassed Reagan with the Homeland Security Dept.)

Presidents who have grown government the LEAST since WW11:
1) Jimmy Carter
2) Bill Clinton

[Gore1FL]

23. But ---

National Socialism and Socialism are two different things entirely (The freepers are unable to differentiate)

NAtional Socialism = Fascism = opposite of Socialism (sort of)

[progdonkey]

24. National Socialism is not Socialism

Likewise, the "Democratic People's Republic of North Korea" is neither democratic, a republic, nor run by the people.

No offense, but you really need to educate yourself on just what "Socialism" is. In a nutshell, anytime the government (aka the People in a democracy) takes over control of a program from private capitalistic enterprise, a "socialization" has taken place. So, George "privatize everything under the sun" Bush is hardly a Socialist.

A major problem is that many people, including yourself it seems, have grown up hearing "socialist" always equated with the totalitarian dictatorships of the Eastern Block. Those goverments were "socialist" the same way Bush is a "Christian" and bin Laden is a "Muslim." Those three share more in common with each other than with the ideology to which they supposedly subscribe, for they are all Totalitarians.

There's an old saying in History: "If you go far enough to the left or the right, you come full circle to Totalitarianism."

[olddem43]

17. Oh, you mean socialist like National Socialist, i.e. Nazi

Well, in that case, everything he has ever done fits.

[morgan2]

20. bush is a chrony capitalist

[BrotherBuzz]

22. Bush is a socialist....and more

The Bush* plan in all things:

PRIVATIZE the profits ans SOCIALIZE the costs...

Simple!

[Zynx]

25. He has shifted the economy more towards the government.