Abu Ghraib, CIA says "if they weren't al Qaeda by the time we captured

[ConsAreLiars]

them, by the time we release them, they sure will be."
(edit to add: This was two years ago, 2002)

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/09/14/1351212

Sy Hersh, Chain of Command: The Road from 9/11 to Abu Ghraib
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/09/14/1351212

Transcript: http://www.democracynow.org/static/hersh_trans.shtml
Read carefully, there's a lot here. For example:


Quoting a CIA agent who looked at conditions there to determine why no good intel was coming out Hersh says:
"if they weren't al Qaeda by the time we captured them, by the time we release them, they sure will be."

Regarding the defeat in Afghanistan, Operation Anaconda:

"One air force colonel, who is a wonderful, bright young air force colonel said to me, "Well, the army demonstrated that they were able to send a bunch of boys up a mountain to their death." That's what they showed in this mission. Complete disaster. They tried to tell the press as many as 700 al Qaeda were killed. Newsweek reported ten bodies were found. Shades of Vietnam again. But I didn't write it.
...
"Everybody denied the story like crazy. And Wes Clark, to his credit, told a bunch of newspapers, "Look, I know this is right." I had said 13 people were hurt and he said 12 was the number that he had. I saw in him somebody with a great streak of integrity, difficult he may be. In any case, I called him about this story while I was doing it. He encouraged me to write it. I didn't write it. About a year-and-a-half later, he's running for president. I mention this in the book, and I bump into him, and he jumped all over me. He said, "Why didn't you do that story?" I said, "Well, I just thought, it just would have been -- I just didn't do it." He said, "You should have done it. That was your job." Pretty scary. You know, he was right."

[EnfantTerrible]

1. I'm so fucking pissed!!!!!

I'm 70 pages into this book and I find myself pacing around and muttering to myself in anger... anger seated in disgust and fear of this administration. If this book doesn't bring this administration down WE ARE ALL FUCKING DOOMED!!!

[ConsAreLiars]

2. Agreed

I haven't read the book, but watching Hersh simply and clearly lay out the facts of what is happening was enraging. The monsters controlling the US government couldn't be doing more damage to America if they were under direct orders from the fundie death cult they claim to oppose.

[DeepModem Mom]

3. kick

[jwirr]

4. Thank you Sy.

I wonder what the reporters and editors at the other news sources think they are going to have left when they play the bushie game? It is all about freedom of the press - stupid. Thanks to people like Sy Hersh, Dan Rather/60 Minutes, Mother Jones, In These Times, Common Dreams and a few others for standing up and fighting for our right to know. If bushie wins this election it is the idiots in the media who stand to lose the most. When there is no freedom of press/speech then there is no confidence in the system. Soon everyone will be turning off their televisions. Why bother to watch what you know is not true?

[proud patriot]

5. Isn't that special

:eyes: bush is a completely failure at the
"war on terrorism" not only does our "homeland
security" get funds diverted to Iraq, but our
National Guard is not here at home .

bush is sticking a stick in a hornets nest created
larger threats to us , of pissed of bees that were
content to leave us be before bush's stick came along
to destroy their home.