The villiage idiot's TANG record is now a dead issue.

[sfecap]

Thank you CBS.

Noone will touch anything remotely connected to *'s lies and distortions.

The media has been very effectively muzzled.

It's called fear, folks...

[BlueEyedSon]

1. That is proof it was a Rove op

[NewYorkerfromMass]

27. No. I think it's proof of media bias in favor of Bush. eom

[theKnave]

28. and Dan Rather is his agent. n/t

[BlueEyedSon]

32. No, the VICTIM.

[democrat in Tallahassee]

2. I think you are wrong; read the NYT today on bush in the seventies

and then go to Salon. who knows Burkett may have the original documents (or know who has them) and is protecting his source

[sfecap]

7. Those articles were written before CBS got creamed.

The story will disappear. Nobody will touch it. It's over.

Rove set this up very nicely.

[Liberal Veteran]

13. People like yourself are why we keep losing.

You don't know how to roll with the punches.

The moment the opposition fights back in any way, you toss out the white flag and give up.

Is it any wonder democrats are seen as milquetoast and wimps?

[sfecap]

17. Bullshit.

I've rolled with many punches my friend.

The fact is, CBS got set up. They went with a story that could have had enormous impact on this race.

Now they are discredited. It was a set up! All of the other media outlets are watching. They will NOT touch a * National Guard story after this.

They don't want to end up looking like CBS.

Sorry, but that's the way it is.

[Liberal Veteran]

18. Wah! Rove won...I surrender! Wah!

Why bother fighting anymore? You are just gonna lose, right?

[sfecap]

20. Surrender? Who said that?

I'm only saying that this story is dead.

The fact is...most people don't care about the idiot's TANG record anyway. They care about their jobs, their health insurance (or lack thereof...), they care about young American men and women getting killed in a war that was based on lies.

Now maybe. just maybe, after the media is finished with their orgasm over CBS's mistake, we can get on to the real issues.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

37. This story's far from dead...

...CBS will spare no expense to nail the NeoCons after this public humiliation that does absolutely NOTHING to refute the facts. FratBoy was AWOL at best, and probably a deserter, when Americans were still dying in Vietnam.

That may not matter to YOU, but it matters to people like myself as well as hundreds of thousands of Vietnam vets. It also matters to those that have been sent to Iraq based on reasons that turned out to be nothing but a pack of lies. It certainly matters to those that have lost loved ones in a war that should NEVER have been fought.

How about this? Why don't you respond to those issues that you want to discuss and let the rest of us discuss this issue. How's that sound? Does that sound fair to you?

[Rose Siding]

10. That article is great and I think it offers good cover for the CBS hype

The NYT has PAGES of proven, yet seldom covered FACTS which can be brought to any convo of the Rather fiasco. Even his facts are unasailable, according to some of the same folks who dispute the origin of the docs!

[Sparkle]

12. Why would Burkett protect his source?

Is he a journalist or a civilian? Burkett needs to reveal who his source is or STFU.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

40. I guess you've never heard of the word "loyalty"?...

Why don't YOU STFU?

[Sparkle]

43. Geeze. Sorry if I offended you.

[theKnave]

30. They'd still be declared forgeries...

even if the originals are perfectly spaced, on yellowed, 1970s 8.5"x10" paper, they'd be called fakes. The repukes would just say, "Good job, but you should have run these out first." Now, they'd just be called clever forgeries, rather that the inept forgeries that Dan Blather used. This was a great preemptive strike by Karl Rove and his joy-boy Dan Rather.

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

3. ...and so is CBS' credibility.

This was a big hit for CBS.

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. Yep kiss what remained of a free media

and it wasn't much, GOOD BYE

[Cocoa]

5. it's still alive

the memos were an unfortunate sideshow, but they won't entirely obscure the real story.

[oldsneakers]

6. They are frightened of a congressional investigation

Damned pukes-all they had to do is threaten an investigation and CBS folded like a cheap camera-this stinks to high heaven of Rove.

[Pallas180]

8. That's not true if you start emailing a letter like this to the

whore media, that the doc itself was fake - but the holes in dumbya's record remain, and Killian's secretary says what was contained in the
false documents were what Killian had discussed with her.


[e-mail]

Dear Dan,

Keep on the story. YOu have Killian's secretary confirming those were
Killian's words, and the holes in his record still exist. This is the most corrupt government that has existed probably ever in the United States. I'm counting on you to expose it.


Thank you for the investigative reporting and not turning into another propaganda arm of the most corrupt administration in my lifetime , possibly ever.

[dogtag]

21. Just mailed my third email to Dan.

Let's just keep flooding CBS with letters of support. The facts haven't changed. He's not the first guy to get punked by the WH goons.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

41. Nice! I like it...I'll send mine right away!

[Liberal Veteran]

9. Oh, please....no wonder we keep losing.

People who can't take a little bloody nose should get the fuck out of politics because you they have the stomach for the fight.

This is a small setback and you are ready to throw in the towel.

Put some starch in your spine already!

[aquart]

11. Not dead. ACCEPTED.

Privileged boy. Not good ol' boy.

Image destruction. And George is nothing BUT image.

[Demit]

14. Do I have to crush a beer can against my forehead?

I feel like John Belushi's character in Animal House, when he was trying to rally his Delta House brothers that they weren't done yet.

Rally, guys, rally! This story's not over yet...

[nostamj]

15. fake memos do NOT make a real RECORD

of course the cablewhores are doing their thing right now, as you would expect them to.

watch what the evening network news do with the REAL story... which is *'s inability to prove he ever completed his service.

remember... not one serviceman has come forward.

holes in the documents do not patch up holes in his record. turn off the cablewhores.

[TahitiNut]

16. There's no more proof they're 'fake' than that they're real.

:shrug:

[vetwife]

22. More than that Jeff, they are interviewing

Blog owners and using Skinner's analagy about blaming the dems. I would demand equal time if I were Skinner. We are smarter than Free Republic and this Powerline. They are blaming the Dem party as Skinner said they would and people are gobbling it up !

[Eagle_Eye]

19. This is an obvious distraction! Bush's actions while in the TANG

Bush's actions while in the TANG are still and issue. Do not stop hammering home the fact Bush went AWOL just because one piece of evidence looks to be in question. I smell a rat (named ROVE) and when that little story is exposed we will see a quick turn around on this issue.

[knowbody0]

23. fight

liberals by nature are passive aggressive. the emporer is indeed more naked now than ever.

[Pallas180]

24. Instead of whining, encourage CBS - here's my letter

Date: 9/20/2004 1:16:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: Pallas180

To: [e-mail]

Subj: Dan, Keep on the Story-HIs record has Holes that airplanes could drive through

Dear Dan,

Keep on the story. YOu have Killian's secretary confirming those were
Killian's words, and the holes in his record still exist. This is the most corrupt government that has existed probably ever in the United States. I'm counting on you to expose it.

Thank you for the investigative reporting and not turning into another propaganda arm of the most corrupt administration in my lifetime , possibly ever.

[0007]

38. Just got my in.

[wrate]

25. Please name one American News Organization that has credibility.

CBS did not lose credibility. They made a mistake in not double checking the memos. That is it. The story of *'s AWOL is still very true and thanks to the fiasco now everyone knows it. And, as far as CBS goes, it has proved to America that they are the single only network today willing to tell the truth. The ONLY ONE! The rest of the networks can say whatever they want, except that they have the guts needed this days to not look like a WH whore.

[GoldenOldie]

29. Documesnts fake - Content truth

This has just started. Dan Rather is no cub reporter and I get a sense that he knows exactly what he is doing.

[VolcanoJen]

26. This is proof of one thing, and one thing only:

When you dare to criticize the President, you will be napalmed into silence.

That's the angle I think we should be taking here. Paul O'Neill, Joe Wilson, Richard Clarke, and now, Dan Rather. Silenced through blanket attacks and intimidation, with full cooperation by the mass media.

Be sure to bring this up to your Bush-leaning friends, because it's actually turning out to be a very effective argument, from my perspective.

[Karenina]

31. How is it

that John Kerry can produce folks who can place him at the scene, where he was when he says he was there and *dimson, even after "detractors" have offered substantial monetary rewards, CANNOT? WHAT IS *WRONG* WITH YOU PEOPLE?????????? :evilgrin: :wtf: :evilfrown: :SIGH:

[Media_Lies_Daily]

42. Bingo!

[Q]

33. The media has been 'effectively muzzled' since Clinton's impeachment...

.. They helped install Bush* into office and have covered his ass ever since while destroying his opponents. Where in the hell have YOU been?

[Trajan]

34. This is just plain silly ...

It ISNT a dead issue .....

Stop running away ....

[Blue Wally]

35. Given what we know

1. Bush went to Alabama for an extended period during his last year in the guard.

2. The local TANG unit was trying to work with him and at the same time keep their drill attendence up.

3. They knew he was "connected" politically though Texas and the TANG were Democratically dominated at the time.

4. The secretary recalled him being discussed in the opns section.

Given all of that, the memos were "plausible". The chances for the memos to have survived thirty years is slim and none. Memos like these do not go into the individual personnel file nor do they go to Dept of the AF unless as a part of an investigation. They are normally held in indivudual (Killian and others) desk files. Since Bush became a "dead issue" to the TANG in the seventies, they would have been destroyed unless Killian was the type to keep a copy of everything he ever wrote. If they didn't come from Killian's little trove, they are "made up" documents.

This was a "fool's errand" from the beginning.

Its the economy, stupid!!!!!

[Snivi Yllom]

36. sad but true.....and.....

it will also provide Team * with ammuntion to go on the offensive.

Before I disliked CBS for being media whores, now I despise them for helping *.

[Kazak]

39. Yeah, until...

those court documents surface... :shrug: